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The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
Location: the world (London)

Total posts: 419
Posted:I've been juggling clubs for a while.



but now I have left the confinds of London. And I'm of for a trip a round the world. ubbloco juggle clap bounce2 bounce



As im not in the greatness of the London juggling and spinning clubs. I thought that I would start this of to keep up with you lot.

And to keep you informed of what is out there in the big wide world.



So the latest moves that I am working on are.



1 Flats:

most of all im trying to do flat back cross.

But also 522 combos with one of the 2's caught under the leg

also box and 441's



2 stalls:

Im trying all type of stalls on different places, feet legs, shoulder and the chin.



do you have any more to add to this.

that I could be trying





When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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hexagonic


hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

Total posts: 1687
Posted:Written by: ber seal

but wow I want to do that.




After seeing my 8balls and how much effort it is, i think i'll pass on 10 balls

juggle


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Megafish
BRONZE Member since Jun 2004

lurking...
Location: Faversham UK

Total posts: 208
Posted:you are all very silly people, none of the things of which you speak are possible my brain will have exploded long before i ever get to flash 10 balls,

gatto rules

garfield drewls


Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.

Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

'Do you like dry cerial? Hope so because we've drunk your milk. Yours Sincerely, Your Neighbourhood Milk Thief'

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2bags
BRONZE Member since Apr 2004

2bags

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Location: bristol, uk

Total posts: 272
Posted:(i ubblovejason)

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

Total posts: 7330
Posted:yeah, that's just so people think you're different to the rest of us.

besides, it doesn't really suprise me - *everyone* loves an underdog...

if you truly love him, you would go to the WORLD JUGGLING FEDERJASON convention and join the queue to pay him even more money to attend his workshops in which he will do a poor impression of gatto's juggling, make some variable quality jokes and demand that you all get on your knees and take it from the master wink

whatever you do though, don't take poi with you - let alone 6 or you'll be lynched!

wink hug


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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2bags
BRONZE Member since Apr 2004

2bags

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Location: bristol, uk

Total posts: 272
Posted:i think it comes down to the old argument of:
performance vs technical ability

gatto's technical ability is unequalled today, but his performance is uninspired and doesn't appear to have changed noticably in twenty odd years (judging by all the videos i've seen, apart from adding an extra ball here and there, or making a trick a bit harder).

garfield however has multiple incredibly funny evolving stage acts that have a lot of variety and comedy to them, where he appears to be making fun of himself more than anyone else.

gatto takes himself and what he does very seriously.

garfield pretends to take himself and what he does seriously, but with his every action shows that he doesn't.

and i'd love to go the wjf (as, i expect, you would to), although i'd be unable to not do poi for that long so i would probably receive a serious beating. why not get a group of us together, then we'd stand a better chance in a fight?
hug ubbrollsmile


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2bags
BRONZE Member since Apr 2004

2bags

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Location: bristol, uk

Total posts: 272
Posted:compare "to be the best" (gatto) with "juggle master 2000" (garfield).

to me "juggle master 2000" is far more inspiring to watch. garfield combines technical ability with comedy and showmanship. whereas, in "to be the best" gatto combines technical ability with having his head stuck up his own butt (the annoying thing is, even in said position he could probably still juggle five balls better than me frown).


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hexagonic


hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

Total posts: 1687
Posted:Written by: 2bags

why not get a group of us together, then we'd stand a better chance in a fight?



Good Luck! I think JG was invited to the BJC at Brighton a couple of years ago on one condition - that he and Luke have a fight, i think it was after LB said something to rub him up on RDJ.

Anyway going on with the JG vs AG debate, i think for me it's always going to be AG purely because

He was there first
He doesn't think he's in the WWF
He is a better juggler

And i don't rate JG as a juggler. Ok so i've not seen JG perform but i have seen one of his videos, not sure which. I've seen both AG's TBTB vids, and as cheesy and crap as they are at least he doesn't sprout out about what a great juggler he is to all the juggling community.

The other reason i don't like JG is because he is constantly acting like a bitch in a farce. AG won the golden clown boot and stopped competing. After competing for so long i can't blame him.

Shame, TD could go up to JG and say how much better he is than him. It's also a shame JG acts like such a twat all the time especialy online. I get the feeling JG has nothing better to do, whereas AG does.

PS 2bags i saw DSads do luke's lobotomy and i think your version is correct after all. spank spank for me.

ubbrollsmile


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Megafish
BRONZE Member since Jun 2004

lurking...
Location: Faversham UK

Total posts: 208
Posted:gggrrr... i want lukes labotomy,

The thing is though, that really... at the end of the day... all things weighed up in equal measure, with just a hint of spice...

It doesn't even make any difference what so ever who the best juggler on the planet is, i have yet to see either of them do a mill's mess pattern, and as yet i am unsure as to whether or not either can do anything interesting with 3 balls. No offence to the guys, but the whole arguement stinks.

And the final part is, that if you stood the two of them next to each other and invited joe public to appraise the two of them thoroughly, he wouldn't even care who was the best.

Is being the best what its all about? Is the WJF just an advert for jasons book? why didn't thomas dietz win? does gatto really take himself that seriously? If you put a cat in a box how would you know if it was dead?:-)


Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.

Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

'Do you like dry cerial? Hope so because we've drunk your milk. Yours Sincerely, Your Neighbourhood Milk Thief'

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2bags
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2bags

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Posted:Written by: Megafish


And the final part is, that if you stood the two of them next to each other and invited joe public to appraise the two of them thoroughly, he wouldn't even care who was the best.







that's sort of my point and sort of not my point (or maybe it is and i don't want to admit it).



i'd bet good money that considerably more of the general public would enjoy a jason garfield show than an anthony gatto show even though i think gatto is a better technical juggler. garfield performs and evolves his performances whereas gatto just juggles (and occasionally juggles a bit more).



i know exactly what you're saying hex about garfield looking like he'd fit in seeminglessly with the wwf and that's an excellent description. but the wwf gets more people watching it then say just normal wrestling. wwf is a way of presenting wrestling that makes it more entertaining.



although it's an unfair comparison, because i hate wwf and wouldn't consider a wwf-type wrestler to be better than someone who does wrestling "properly". the difference being that i wouldn't consider wwf intelligent entertainment, whereas i would consider garfield's shows to be clever, original presentations of juggling.



reading back these posts it makes it sound like i'm infactuated with him. i'm certainly not saying he's the best juggler ever (or even that incredible), i'm just saying i prefer him to gatto. i prefer some of luke burrage's routines to garfield's because the ideas behind them are even cleverer. guy heathcote also rocks largely. vickor kee's dralion routine is amazing, but i'll only truly respect him if i see other awesome routines from him, and michael moschen does one or two routines that make me want to mate with him (or though his choice of costume can sometimes be misguided, so he'd have to let me dress him in the mornings).


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Lemonkey

Stalking amidst the desert, carrying an oversized scalpel...
Location: Huddersfield + Hull Uni... UK.

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Posted:It's all about Thomas Dietz. His videos are just crazy. One video has a dropless 6 minute 5 ball routine, very swish. He's one of the few people who can do 7777777db975317777777 etc, and all those random throw-ins from Mark Probst.

Anthony Gatto is like a walking animated juggling machine. "Hey gatto, juggle 7 balls" - and he'll do so for so long, you'd think you're watching the famous little ball stickman juggling 7 red dots...

Jason Garfield, he's just cocky as heck.


Willy - is bad for your health...

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ber seal


The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
Location: the world (London)

Total posts: 419
Posted:They had some t-shirts at the EJC that had the WJF sign on.
you know the one with jason holding 3 clubs.
well there one was WTF as in WHAT THE F**K with jason holding 3 clubs and a ? above him.
I think they should have had him holding poi.

as 4 gato. He is a machine, you cant knock him on that

Jason is just a big headed american twat. and if you see him or know him, give him my number so I can tell him so.

DIETZ = GOD
no one juggles like him. and after seeing his show 3 times last week, I want his kids.

But one day I will be as good as them all, and you can all come and bow befor me


When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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Mr_Chutney
SILVER Member since Apr 2003

Mr_Chutney

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Location: Herefordshire

Total posts: 1711
Posted:Yeah well I can juggle 3 clubs, and sometimes I don't drop them like FOREVER! ubbloco

Anyway- Hello Martin- biggrin Hows tricks? wink

Chutney wave


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ber seal


The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
Location: the world (London)

Total posts: 419
Posted:yeah they are cool. Mr chutney
and what about you?

and I have seen them all drop now and again.
so they are not that much of a god, are they.


When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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hexagonic


hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

Total posts: 1687
Posted:Written by: 2bags

i hate wwf and wouldn't consider a wwf-type wrestler to be better than someone who does wrestling "properly".




Me too. Give me Big Daddy or the Giant Haystacks over Hulk Hogan any day wink


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T&B
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

T&B

Me
Location: London/Bristol

Total posts: 607
Posted:B4 we move to far away from the subject has anyone got the hypo7ball routine of gattos to play.



my general thoughts on the matter is Gatto's seem abit f*ing good but boring both in juggling style and his internet site, Jason not half as good as he thinks and abit of a twat but quite amusing none the less and Dietz is a big fluffly tedy bear.


Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt

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2bags
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2bags

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Posted:Written by: Hexagonic

Me too. Give me Big Daddy or the Giant Haystacks over Hulk Hogan any day wink



heck yes. hug


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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

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Posted:
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i just don't wanna forget how to find this company is and this thread seemed to have the title to fit smile




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tim - not got that video to play at all on a pc. i got bored downloading codecs and gave up.





cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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2bags
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2bags

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Posted:Written by: the website cole took the pictures from

Clear Hollow Spheres that pull apart into two halves are very popular for window designs and decoration ... can also be halved into two hemispheres for the production of Daleks




well that's kind of random. just what sort of a company is that, cole? i like the way that they presume most of their customers are either going to be engaged in designing windows or making armies of daleks to take over the world with.


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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

Total posts: 7330
Posted:they are a very interesting company is what they are mr girlfriend...

seems thay are like this company in terms of the products they manufacture but they are based in the uk, obviuosly well used to requests from weirdo specialist hobbyists (like replica dalek makers for example) and they also mention that another material they can produce balls in is silicone.

this means they may be receptive to my request for information on some silicone balls in a small size (between 1 3/4 and 2").

as i am also interested interested in getting hold of filled stage balls, big acrylics and maybe even some 2.75" sillies (if their manufacturing process is good enough), it made sense to remember them and email them.

which i've just done smile


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Glåss
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

Glåss

The Ministry of Manipulation
Location: Bristol

Total posts: 2523
Posted:They never replied to my e-mail frown
I have some of those separating ones, I dont have a use for them. Plus they are polystyrene = structurally crap like CD cases, so they don't want to be dropped.

As for who would win between AG and JG.
Laughs
They already both did.
All publicity is good publicity, You'll debating it on every forum is perfect for both of them.
the probably correct answer is C someone else.

Drew


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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

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Posted:why do you have those things?!
may i suggest you use them for window designs or decoration...? wink

out of four recent emails i've sent regarding balls, only one person replied.

his name is uri and he is from israel and is very nice smile

serious juggling, passe passe and this company have yet to prove their worth umm

as for who would win between ag and jg.
i reckon jg would win in a straight no-weapons fistfight but ag's casino security guards would throw jg's butlins holiday performing-ass out of there before he even gets near
the front row...


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

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Posted:they got back to me within 3 hours smile

but they don't make silicone balls despite what their website claims...


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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bluecat


bluecat

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Location: everywhere

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Posted:acrylics? as my beautiful 100mm didn't come back from play :crying

Holistic Spinner (I hope)

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

Total posts: 7330
Posted:you lost your sparkly (almost) brand new 4" rob? eek frown

price i got from that company for 100mm was: 54.00 p&p extra + vat

incidentally, you wouldn't believe how hard it is to find 50mm bouncy balls.
45mm easy, 60mm are get-able but 2" bouncy balls don't seem to exist in this world...
dammit.


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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bluecat

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Posted:frown i can't afford that. not as i just paid 120 for a flute.
anyway, my old acrylic cost me 33 eek

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
(like a small baby)


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coleman
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coleman

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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

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Posted:Written by: bluecat

anyway, my old acrylic cost me 33 eek




wow! was it new?
if so i think i need to speak to ewan... smile

hugdoofdoofhug


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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bluecat

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Posted:it was new, it was also the last batch they were making, and it was at cost. i doubt you'll manage to get one for that(or i would be).
ewan is going to italy for two years on monday.

frown


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ber seal


The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
Location: the world (London)

Total posts: 419
Posted:I am having trouble getting them in at the moment.

every one has seemed to runout at the same time.

I need people in london to pass clubs with.
where are they all?


When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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hexagonic


hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

Total posts: 1687
Posted:Written by: ber seal

I need people in london to pass clubs with.




come find me wink


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ber seal


The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
Location: the world (London)

Total posts: 419
Posted:I did.
and it was good.

nice to see you last night mate.
hope to throw more things at you soon.


When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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