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The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
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Posted:I've been juggling clubs for a while.



but now I have left the confinds of London. And I'm of for a trip a round the world. ubbloco juggle clap bounce2 bounce



As im not in the greatness of the London juggling and spinning clubs. I thought that I would start this of to keep up with you lot.

And to keep you informed of what is out there in the big wide world.



So the latest moves that I am working on are.



1 Flats:

most of all im trying to do flat back cross.

But also 522 combos with one of the 2's caught under the leg

also box and 441's



2 stalls:

Im trying all type of stalls on different places, feet legs, shoulder and the chin.



do you have any more to add to this.

that I could be trying





When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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hexagonic


hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

Total posts: 1687
Posted:On Friday i bought the Buffalo (New York) IJA championships dvd. It's got some class acts on it.

From the Juniors comp - there is an amazing act by some guy from Tokyo, does only three balls but does it in time to some hard-ass techno, truly amazing tricks, very fast hand movements. The guy who won was pretty, er...good too.

Teams - The Stanford Research Juggling group, or something are superb, with some *really* nice passing patterns. Vova and Olga did a truly amazing routine with passing up to 10 clubs, 9 club ultimates, 7 club ultimates back to back.

Solo - Luke Burrage doing what Luke does.

Jay Gilligan doing 2clubs, 2balls and then 2balls and 2rings. juggle

Thomas Dietz. Won the competetion with some awesome juggling (what did you expect!)

Emile Carey (i think!) - a dropless bouncing routine.

All in all and amazing dvd. Lots of cool juggling, good routines, but it's all for the competitions (i think except maybe Luke's stuff) so it's not got your average stuff watching guys in the gym. The overall standard is excellent tho. Well worth the price if you can get it.


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Megafish
BRONZE Member since Jun 2004

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Posted:good day gentlemen,



right can anyone help me out with my siteswap knowledge,



i've been trying to get a really nice solid 50505 pattern, in the hope that it will help my 5 ball out, its not the easiest pattern on the planet so i've been dropping it into my async shower and using it to change direction; its definatly helping the 50505 pattern, but i can't for the life of me work out what i'm doing in terms of siteswaps, i've tried various different things with my siteswap program but to no avail. Getting from 50505 to 51 on paper, anyone got any ideas/clues? i'm stumped:-)

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Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.

Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

'Do you like dry cerial? Hope so because we've drunk your milk. Yours Sincerely, Your Neighbourhood Milk Thief'

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

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Posted:3 ball shower to shower the other way by way of a 3 ball snake?

its just a matter of states pat - take a 5 from the end of your snake and stick it on the front and try working it out again.

i.e. write 50505 as 55050 - that way the shower leaves you in the correct state to juggle the snake:

(51)55050(51)

is that what you were after...?


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Megafish
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Posted:cheers coleman, oh mate, is exactly what i wanted to know, whats more, thats what i've been thinking about all day as well, (although i hadn't pieced it together with my above query just yet), i'd explain what i was thinking but since you already know there really isn't much point.

I'm still gutted that i didn't get to meet you at OK, i should have spent the night out in the woods really..... At some point i shall venture up to spittlefields, but id rather get my 5 ball pattern sorted before i come and play with the big boys:-)



i've been working on doing this (51)55050(51) and cutting down the amount of 51s i do, (i've been getting quite serious with my time and motion studies as of late, so that my practice time is used as effeciently as possible). It looks really nice when i start with a run of the shower then do a 55050 then three 51s on either side, then two then one and into the snake. plus after spending a whole day messing about with 5 throws and managing to get past 20 throws several times (i think my run of 50 must have been somewhat of a fluke, honestly it did happen) i had a go at 5551 and it just made sense and went round a few times, on boths sides, hopefully i'll get my head round the whole sticking a four on the end soon.



next question if i can rearrange 50505 to make (51)55050(51) how do i get 531 to go into 51? is it possible?



sorry if i'm supposed to spend ages working it out on bits of paper for myself, it just seems a little bit more sensible to come and ask people who know it all already.



damn these numbers, now i know what a calculator must feel like

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Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

'Do you like dry cerial? Hope so because we've drunk your milk. Yours Sincerely, Your Neighbourhood Milk Thief'

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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:you need to look up 'state transition diagrams' (or std's if you want to use an ambiguous abbreviation).



51 is excited state which means you can't go from cascade directly into it (you would normally throw a 4 first to start a shower).

55050 is the same state as 51 so you can go between them with no transition throws.



531 is ground state (which means the same state as a cascade) so you can start it from a cascade with no transition throws.



don't have time to explain it all cos i have to actually do some work today (you should find articles on jis or jugglingdb to show you how to use std's) but to answer your question, since 51 and 531 are different states, you have to make a transition between them:



(51)2(531)4(51)



there are transition generator programs available on the net that will generate all possible transitions between two siteswaps for you - have a look around smile





cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Mynci
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Mynci

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Posted:2bags, I was working on this at the weekend and can get 3 throws and catches doing weave and mikes mess with balls. you have to get the under the arm throw quite high to avoid the poi chains and it still looks a bit messy but IS possible. can do the 3 ball cascade quite solid now but you really have to get chain length and poi weight just right so the timings match. by the end of summer 2005 it will be sweet. weavesmiley juggle

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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TheApprovingNinja

From the Ashes of a Ninja Rise THE HIPS OF RAGE
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Posted:hey guys it's steve in a new handle

I'm finally getting four ball tennis but could someone tell me the numbers?

btw how's things down south


Viva UGLY STAFF

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2bags
BRONZE Member since Apr 2004

2bags

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Location: bristol, uk

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Posted:the siteswap for four ball tennis is: 53444
(the 5's are 'over the top' throws)

mynci: sounds good. now what poiggling pattern do you think will work best for
air wraps smile? i suppose a slow half shower would work. anyone tried this?


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hexagonic


hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

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Posted:New Luke Burrage clip from upcoming dvd.

Tis good
juggle


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SoyaBeanHustler


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Posted:hi all been working on a new arm roll.... 'impossbile roll'

its a roll from plam to inside elbow put your move your arm so the ball kinda orbits your arm on the way... make sense? help!!!


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Megafish
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Posted:soyabeanhusltler, that sounds absolutely mad..

anychance you can elabourate a little for me?


Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.

Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

'Do you like dry cerial? Hope so because we've drunk your milk. Yours Sincerely, Your Neighbourhood Milk Thief'

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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:mad



i wrote a lovely email with an order for 10 beanbags to fergie props over two weeks ago and this is the reply i got today.





Written by: fergie


Dear customer,



In order to allow myself sufficient time to prepare inventory to sell at

the IJA Juggling Festival in July and to fill the many mail orders that I

already have in hand, I will not be accepting any new mail orders for

Fergie Bags until August 1, 2005. Please contact me on or after that date

if you wish to purchase Fergie Bags by mail order.



If you're attending the IJA Festival, you can stop by my table and purchase

from the inventory that I will have for sale there. However, be advised

that I expect to sell out most of my inventory within the first few days of

the festival, so please stop by early if you wish make a purchase. (Visit

http://www.juggle.org/festival/
for IJA Juggling Festival details.)



Thanks for your patience and understanding. Happy juggling to all!





--

Michael Ferguson (a.k.a. Fergie)







i.e. i didn't read your email till today and now i'm not going to take your order as i'd rather sell my stuff at the ija convention than sell it to you confused



this is especially annyoing as i only had a short time to get my order in, since fergie has only been taking orders since april this year (due to the high demand for his product).



i understand his product is extremely popular but i'm sure his success is not due to the quality of his service.

i have found him slow to respond, his demeanour to be extremely impersonal and as a result, can't help but feel a little let down - this order was my birthday present and i have been looking forward to it for some time frown



i would say customer service is dead if i hadn't an almost opposite reaction from my usual supplier of beanbags ubblove





cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

UCOF

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Posted:hug

That sucks.


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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:random links for people who might want them:

video of two blokes called dominik throwing (lots of) things at each other: the dominix

and an excitingly wonderful post about a contact juggling dvd that might just already be in production... ubblove ubbrollsmile


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

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Posted:Written by: coleman

and an excitingly wonderful post about a contact juggling dvd that might just already be in production... ubblove ubbrollsmile




Is that Glass? Can't view link redface redface work puters redface


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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:maybe... wink
and maybe more... biggrin

more rumours bounce2


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

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Posted:do you fancy posting that on the "another contact juggling thread"

offtopic


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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:okay smile

but what's off topic...?


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
Location: Manchester

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Posted:offtopic Nothing - i just like the graemlin smile

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The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
Location: the world (London)

Total posts: 419
Posted:We all love them sooooo much!

smile frown redface biggrin rolleyes ubblove ubbangel mad kiss ubbtickled angry censored ditto heart lolsign offtopic thankx shrug wow welcome wavehello ooooops mad2 hehe excl clap bounce angel peace tongue ubbidea weavesmiley hug wink ubbrollsmile cool confused ubbloco beerchug spank ubbcrying angelblue bye devil grouphug hug2 nana sunny soapbox meditate help footinmouth confused2 bounce2 angel2 umm wave ubblol eek juggle


When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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UCOF
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UCOF

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Posted:Which do you think the least used is?

I like this one lots --> umm


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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:umm is my favourite too cos it looks a bit like my avatar.



i've never used this one: excl



but i have now smile





cole. x



offtopic tongue hug2


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Posted:juggle

shame on you all for thinking it could be any other way.


Holistic Spinner (I hope)

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The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
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Posted:I have to agree with the feline on this one

juggle


When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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hexagonic

Clubbles Jugs
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Posted:ditto lolsign

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Megafish
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Posted:---> censored - least favourite; coz i love swearing

---> meditate - most unused; i haven't even seen it before, let alone used it, might have to start doing so

---> footinmouth - would like to see it...

---. juggle - clearly the best, would like to see 5:-)


meditate Peace, i'm outa here


Juggling isn't useless, It just isn't useful.

Neural Coding is Idiosyncratic:-)

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The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
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Posted:In the good old days I remember coleman using that one quite a lot.
I think he was going through his "zen" phase.

Well it must have done him some good. Just look at how carm his juggling is now. throw, throw, drop, drop, he he love you cole.


When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:yeah, whatever hoppy...

tongue wink


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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coleman
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coleman

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Posted:juggling for drummers ubbloco



polyrhythms are seriously hard to get your head round, drummer or not.



throw juggling in there and you have a serious headf*ck on your hands.



will be giving this a go over the weekend.



i can't believe the one person i know that has a good chance of really nailing this has just left to go live in africa for 10 weeks rolleyes



oh well - will give me a chance to learn it before he does.



cole. x

is gonna miss jonny logonge lots and lots frown


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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The Official London juggling ber spy. shh! dont tell any one
Location: the world (London)

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Posted:Cole my head hurts.
we should have got him to teach us how to drum befor he left.
Why when I think that I am getting to that stage where I can call myself a good juggler, someone comes up with something that makes me feel old and out of date?

can you do me a favor, AND STOP DOING IT TO ME!!!

And me is going to miss our dear jonny to. frown


When people says "plz" cause its shorter than "please" I say "no" cause its shorter than "yes"

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