Fool Location: Cornwall, UK Member Since: 30th May 2004 Total posts: 2020
Posted:I was thunking. When trying to get gigs spinning fire, it would be very cool to be able show the person doing the booking something official like a membership card to a Guild or Society of fire performers. Something to set their minds at rest that you have acheived a certain level of experience and will not burn their things or their customers.
Does anything like this exist?
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the henna lady Location: WNY, USA Member Since: 15th Dec 2000 Total posts: 6193
Posted:One has gone into a fire tribe at tribes.net. I think it just goes by Fire Guild. There are threads about why have a guild and who should belong. It is very grassroots and is headed up by John Voldel. There is alot of interest but alot of different opinions trying to be appeased to. Kind of "too many cooks spoil the stew" type thing.
The other, The North American Fire Artist Association had a website but last I checked it was gone. Feel free to search for it. Ted Ward and Donia Love were big proponents in it. This one started at the top and went right for safety regulations, contacting airlines and such, trying to gather a database of every fire marshall in the northern hemisphere type stuff. Great at it's core but more than what I think they could take on.
The other was Fire Arts Association International. It is another that had a website that vanished. I don't even remember who headed this one up.
So there you have them, in a nutshell.
People are supportive but afraid. Fire attracts the non-authoritative, (as I am told) "radical, hippy" element, which is known for not wanting to be regulated. People are wanting regulations to help keep other people in line and to prevent the actions of others from inhibiting their ability to spin, but then they do not want to be regulated themselves. Case in point, a group I recently worked with was *preaching* safety to their new people. But when it came time for the troupe creators to rehearse lit, and the safety was not ready they complained "Why do things always have to be so regulated? Why can't we just light up and spin. We don't have anything to worry about." This is an all too common mentality, that it is someone else's problem and someone else's fault, and that is part of the barrier from a true meeting of the minds with these projects.
Kindest Regards, Pele
Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir "Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall "And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
Mr Dizzy.... Location: Spiralling into uncertainty Member Since: 12th Mar 2002 Total posts: 154
Posted:As an alternative but a much more general one and specifically to the UK (although outside the UK similar unions have affiliations) you can join Equity as a Circus/Variety performer, of course this would not be a regulatory body for fire spinning, but membership offers many benefits.
It provides you with public liability insurance which covers you for most things, however for fire you need to pay an extra premium through Equity's insurance company First Act, and it kinda gives you a bit of "respectability" for want of a better word by being and Equity member. However a said above it won't necessarily regulate the quality and safety of the performer. I could go on and on, there are a host of reasons listed on their web-site.
Have a look. Diz
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HOP admin Location: HOP Member Since: 18th Nov 2003 Total posts: 995
Posted:There is also www.fireperformers.com which I helped to start. We had over a 1000 listings but I deleted them all to only show those who could prove their insurrance etc. Now only two are shown. It does have 1400 websites pointing at it and does get quite a few visitors. I gree with Pele "A good insurance policy and a letter of recommendation from your local fire authority goes a long way." also References from previous hirers and the manner in which you conduct business and your contracts.