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Kaji
Kaji

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Location: Vansterdam
Member Since: 12th Dec 2002
Total posts: 564
Posted:Anxiety and Depression:

Does it really get better

or

Do you just learn to pretend everything is ok when it's not.

Ok I posted this question in either/or but I feel like it needs serious discussion right now. As you may or may not know I suffer from anxiety and depression as does my girlfriend. Since about Febuary I have been going in an up and down cycle of depression and anxiety with only brief days when i feel good. Those cycles are getting longer with less and less good days. I'm begining to think that I'll never get better. That I'll always be this way. That all you can really do is pretend every thing is ok, whether it is or not.

What do you think?


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Madam Flame
Madam Flame

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Location: Salem, Oregon
Member Since: 23rd Jul 2004
Total posts: 308
Posted:Being bi-polar I can agree with alot of what you say, Pounce & Meepette. The trial & error part is hell. For many years I was just labled as chronically depressed & given prozac, zoloft, paxil, etc. Later to find out that the reason it didn't work & actually mad things worse was that antidepressants that aren't paired with a mood stabalizer like lithium or depakote will send a bipolar person into greater mood swings. It wasn't until I went to someone who truly knew how to diagnose these things that I got help. I suffered heavily from the time I was 6 until I was 22 trying to find the right combo of meds. I had issues with school & jobs & home life. Now things are better(I'll be 29 next month) but like any normal human I have my ups & downs, mine are just more exagerated, the meds just keep me from sprialling out of control. I might not be as "normal" as most, but I'm better & sometimes it's not trying to make someone as normal as possible but making them better than they were.

Never settle for normal.devil
Average thinking brings average results.

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Madam Flame
Madam Flame

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Posted:Did that make sense? I just read my post & I hope I worded it right.

Never settle for normal.devil
Average thinking brings average results.

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pounce
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Posted:Written by: crmanier1

sometimes it's not trying to make someone as normal as possible but making them better than they were.



very true. well said smile


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meep
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Posted:Crmanier1, you made perfect sense smile

Oh for more money thrown into mental health!

pounce, *nods* hopefully i will be able to do that also!


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~fairygirl~
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Location: Essex-Suffolk borders, UK
Member Since: 12th Aug 2004
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Posted:I would agree with most that's been said. I would just add this:

Your perspective is the most important thing to be aware of. Any situation can be a negative or positive experience depending on how you perceive it. I know that this sounds obvious or flippant but it has really helped me.

I have suffered for many years with chronic social anxiety and depression. I have now realised through introspection, slowing down my life style and the support of family and friends that my view of my life was what was damaging me the most. I realised that I was most anxious when I was not in control of the situation. I have tried really hard to see not being in control as a positive thing rather than a negative thing and I have relaxed a lot.

I have always been a friendly, gregarious, positive, person on the outside but an isolated, frightened, negative person on the inside. These days I'm just one person and it's me rather than my circumstance that's changed.

My advice is to relax and try to see a positive thing in every situation. Even a little one. It has really helped me.

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~fairygirl~
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Location: Essex-Suffolk borders, UK
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Posted:Meant to add...

I would agree with the above posts and advocate going to see a specialist rather than a general physician. Cognative therapy has been the most useful for me.

Anti-depressants are always an option but again, I would be very careful as the side effects can outweigh any gains in mental stability. My brother was suicidal after starting a course of anti-depressants for general depression and anxiety. When he stopped taking them the suicidal feelings left him. He now uses exercise and cognative therapy to much better effect.

I really hope that you find a combination that helps you ubbrollsmile


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PsychoTronic
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Location: Greece-Samos-Athens
Member Since: 1st Jun 2004
Total posts: 80
Posted:hi!When it comes to soul matters everything is so simple and complex that makes me wanna cry for hours... I have experienced many many many times some crises,but the biggest one came while I was near people that I knew the one was my professor (i study in university) Life away from my parents house made me happy the first two years but then it started being so scary sometimes.maybe I was not ready to go away...After two years of being away I had enough personal problems that was not that hard but they affected me real bad:( when juggling came in my life everything become better but only for a while.I really wanted to go to class (I study maths but I hate them....) but everytime i tried to I got nervous and anxious and my heart was beeting real fast and i started to feel like I had 5 coffees in 5 minutes...!I was listening to the professor and I though I understood what he was saying I couldnot focus.In the same time I wanted him to pass some things he was saying because i already knew them and I wanted him to stop speaking.I wanted to take my book and throw it to his face and start screaming so loud...:( Then I realized that something inside me is sooooo wrong.I left the class.when i got out i couldnt remember anything of what the teacher was saying.I got scared.
This is a situation that happened many times.I knew that this was making me weaker.I got really down:(
I had a panic crisis one other time because i had a problem with my neck,which i didnt know and I felt a numb in my left hemispaire.I went out and I got drunk then i went in a cafe(next morning without sleep)I had drinked 2 strong coffees in a half hour and then i went to work (i had to do some work for the university).The sun was burning my eyes I couldnt breath well i was shaking and my heart was beeting fast,my head was numd and I felt dizzy... God I thought I was dying.I went to the hospital where they took blood and they examined me and they said that I had signs of overwork and a panic crisis.They told me I could see a psychologist.This whole situation came in a period that I was in a soul-corruption due to personal problems and i was in a real pain,I started drinking and i couldnt stay home.
The last 2 years I feel anxious about my health.It is funny but when I had a cold I thought I had aids.When I had a headache i thought I had cancer.(The place I study is an island and the doctors here are sometimes bouchers... so I couldnt trust them)
when I went to visit my parents, they brought our doctor to see me.He saw the blood test and told me that I should start feeding healthier.There was nothing wrong with my bodys health but my soul was very sensitive.He made me feel strong and ready to fight.My body can be fixed by others but my soul is something that noone can fix but me... but what happened to me didnt stop.Everytime I was going to have a crisis I stoped it.Simply.Without fear.I said: I am OK and this had happened before,I wont let it happen again.So far I went pretty well. Notice that I stopped drinking coffee,and when I drink is in the morning.Believe it or not everytime I drink half of the coffee I get a little nervous again.
Soul matters are so complicated but when you know the reason that somethings happen then it is difficult but true that anyone can handle situations.You can listen to your favorite music,rest,think....play poi or paint or dance.A cardiologist told me when you feel anxious and your heart is beeting fast RUN.When we are anxious our body products adrenaline without reason.That is why our heart rate increases and we feel on speed.When we run we use this adrenaline and then everything gets normal again.You must know that psychological problems can be brought up if the world around us permits.So stop things that makes us nervous.stop drugs(coffee,smoking,e.t.c.)Start doing things.Create.Always do something you like...calmly, slowly. Dont waste your life in being anxious,calm down and try to give quality in your life.Do that with your girl,you can help eachother.
DERPESSION comesbecause you are anxious and probably because you think that you cannot live like a normal person.WELL!Listen to me,I also have problems.No man in this earth is normal.There is no normal everyone has a cross to bear, some have little problems some bigger.Try to live with that and believe me it WILL go away.But if it doesnt,It will no longer be a problem.That is who you are,that is who I am.And I love me and I try for the best.Humans we are and humans have a lot of strength.Trust me on this I test my limits often,I never saw a line there my friend...
Face the problem do not try to hide it.Come on it is you we are talking about.


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bpftilldeath
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Posted:It almost feels odd saying that I was once depressed.
At the age of 14 my mother got sick and we had to leave living in new plymouth so she could get better care. I had to leave my first love, and come to a new school in the middle of the year. Needless to say I was young and reckless and blamed everyone else for the way I felt.
That soon passed away, as did my mom. I started smoking pot, and staying out late and whatnot. Then one night I couldnt take myself anymore... I got a knife and held it to my arm. But then the thought of my sister stayed my hand and I broke down crying. Iv never been afraid to cry, dont know why anyone male or female would, but Iv always had trouble expressing my feelings with my family.
Basically... one day my dad said to me "this is your life, and you are the only one who can control it. If you WANT to be happy, you will be"
Now I know some people have bipolar and the like (thankfully I dont), but it really worked for me. Every morning I woke up loving life and myself. I still get lapses, but now Im in a band and get to scream as much as I want... usefull therapy huh


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BurningByron
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Location: Australia
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Posted:It not permenant.
Everything is impermenant, including your depression and anxiety.
What worked for me is being intensely aware of of all the feelings within myself. Just watching, without judgement and without attachment.


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Sensuosa
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Location: Barrie, Ontario
Member Since: 4th Apr 2003
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Posted:Depression is very real and not very well accepted by society's norm.to many people depression is a something that can be identified and then repaired. To many others, depression is not curable and it's a constant life long battle. I hope you find a way to gain control of it...don't be afraid to talk about it when you have to..and most of all..don't be ashamed. Safe travels
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PsychoTronic
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Location: Greece-Samos-Athens
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Posted:well, after one year this topic is truly what I had in mind when I had the second big panic attack... on 11 february of this year.
So I chose to stay at home, everyday was hell.I couldnt go out I felt sick, and I thought that I wouldnt get well. My dad came in the island that I study and took me home in Athens. I couldnt even travel! I couldnt even be with my friends.
So I went to a psychiatrist.She told me that I am going to be well, but it takes time.I am on medication from now until next year.From the moment I was in a safe place... my parents place I was going better:) I still dont want to go out alone but when I do I dont have such a problem.Finally my doctor said that I will never live such a hell again. So, if anyone has that kind of problem please dont waste time, go to a psychiatrist at once.
lots of hugs


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darkpoet
darkpoet

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Posted:Written by: BurningByron

It not permenant.
Everything is impermenant, including your depression and anxiety.
What worked for me is being intensely aware of of all the feelings within myself. Just watching, without judgement and without attachment.




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but i have to disagree here.....they told me my adhd would go away...i just had to take these little yellow pills and it would all go away.....later they told me i was bipolar and hypoglycemic in addition...but if i take some more pills ill be ok.....
get the trend?
head meds have only made my life a living hell with almost every antipsychotic making me go into psychotic episodes..and the mood stabilizers made me forget everything during the 4 weeks i took them....just a blurred memory....

it is very permanent....and you just have to learn to cope....

my .02


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Stainless Munchkin
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Posted:is depression just feeling bad and/or nervous? or is it a seriously bad form of these two?

Are you that clever that you smile forever? biggrin

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pricklyleaf
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Member Since: 7th Mar 2005
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Posted:YES!

I was really depressed during my teens, (my mum was very ill, things were really bad with my dad), and I'm a lot better now. I got in a place where I believed I would never be happy again, happiness was something that happened to other people. But the best ting that happened to me was my teacher told me off for being so negative all the time. (In everythig I said). I dint realise I was even doing it so much until she said. It was so harde to stop myself at first but as I started to stop myself being negative, my outlook also improved. I think that the key really is to start thinking positivly, take it a little at a time.

There are always going to be things that could trigger it off again, but I loo on it in the way, I've got through this once and thats the hardest step, I can easily get throught this again. My main problem at the moment is my self-confidence (im going through a very self-loathing stage), but I dn't let it get me down, I tell myself it will pass, and I know that, slowly, it will.

I know everyones different, so this may not apply to you but I hope it helps someone.


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Selenia
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Posted:Mind is a powerfull weapon, with or against ourself.

I've had a very hard life, but my ex-husband made it a living hell ((why-o-why did i marry him???)) and I was already depressed when I was young, but in my marriage my depressions got a whole new dimensions. I ate pills, after a long and a furious fight with my... which one it was, who can give pills? Anyway... I didn't want pills, but in one point I didn't have a choice anymore.

Sadest moment, now when I look it back, was one sunny summerday, when I watched my 3yrs old son playing, and noticed, that I didn't feel anything. There was my own son, and I didn't feel anything for him. I thought it for a moment, thinkin it should feel sad or guilty or something, and it didn't even do it.

In that point I realized, that I didn't feel anything anymore. I realized, that I didn't wait anything, but the day to end, so that I can maybe get some sleep and wake for a new day to wait it to end... It didn't scare me, but I thought, that it can't be that way, that's not the life I wanted to live. For a moment I thought about suicide and is there anything left for me in this world. Then I thought, that screw you! I'm not gonna let them win (('them' as everyone, who has made my life difficult))

I decided, that no matter what, I'm gonna make my life the way I wish it to be. I fought my way through a difficult divorce. I got a really bad panic disorder, I got maybe 3-5 panic attacks a day. I fought fo a months. Some days I was so tired, that I started to cry if I had even think about getting up from bed.

But in the end I won. I moved away from my bad life, now I'm in a new town with a new boyfriend and a whole new life. I LOVE my life, I enjoy every second of it. I'm going to try everything I can((like this poi)) and making sure I'm enjoying it, I'm going to take everything I can from life. Afterwards my shrink has thought, that my brain just simply shut down the whole feel-system, before I overload it with my misery. It's like some kind of self-defence system.


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Sakura_Moon
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Posted:My sister has anxiety, i had depression.
Although its ever really gone away properly, if something bad happens to someone with a history of depression it can set them off easier, but with a normal person, it takes a little more to trigger it.
A psychiatrist told me that...


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Aimee Marie
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Posted:Hey there, I am a person suffering with the effects of anxiety as you are... I have learned that there are 2 types, type 1 chemical, type 2 environmental. I am to understand that there is always something better to direct my focus onto when the times seem to be at thier worst... i take all of my stresses and put them on paper which acctually takes them to a place that makes it all seem easier for my to handle. I hope that you are doing better than you were when this began, I always tell myself that the worse it is now the better it will be when it is all over. Aimee

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myco
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Location: melbourne, victoria, australia
Member Since: 2nd Nov 2004
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Posted:i had depression for a lot of my life, and i got tratment for it which originally didn't work, but then i took more drastic measures and it did work. i haven't had depression for about 4 years now, although i still get low moods like everyone, but when i get serious low moods (within 'normal range') i get scared that i'm getting depressed again. i don't belive that i'll ever have depression again, but i think because i'm predisposed to it i have to be careful.

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jemima (jem)
jemima (jem)

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Location: london
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2002
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Posted:ok, I'll make this thread as posotive as I can.

I have been, depressed thorough my teens. At one point I used to come home and cry, and go all day not saying a dicky bird! I was scared of making decisions for the future and couldn't see any way forward. Although when I had a change of school (art foundation) I was able to make a fresh start, meeting tones of new people and friends through poi meets, and discovered poi !

Although the course only being 1 year, I was faced with another massive change, going onto univerity. It was definatly a posotive change! My first year of uni was amazing! It immpossible to not have a good time in the first year of uni!

I think change is definatly key to feeling better about yourself, and achievement and reward, is amazing for your motivation and bouncyness. You dont have to get ten first class degrees to feel good though (just illustrating and extreme there) but little things like cooking a new dinner, doing one more lap round the field than you did the week before or just making someone smile.

For some reason, I am going through a phase of depression and anxiety again, I have my friends to support me some very very good friends at that ! Although I'm not embarrased to say that my mum is probably my very closet friend. Maybe its because we are just as quirky as eachother, in the same sort of ways.

UUUUUUUUUm where was I yes, I think its allways a great idea to surround yourself with as much love and friendship as you can. I find they both motivate me, just sometimes i need bigger doses of it from time to time.

It will get better, you just have to kick yourself in the backside a little ! Dont't punish yourself.

I'm with Narr on the try to smile at everyone ! Dont bring other people down.


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Rozi
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Posted:Depression may stay with you, it may go away. There are so many ifs buts and maybes due to differing conditions, differing triggers etc that it is really hard to say.

One thing I will say is that if you suffer from a long-term depression, or something that comes and goes, don't expect the character of your depression to stay the same. It changes over time as you grow and change.

I know now that I have always had bouts of depression. However depression in my early and teen years was tinted with all of the usual teenage angst and melodrama, as well as worsened by a lack of self-awareness. I cried, alot. I yelled, alot. I tried to take my life once and vowed never to again. I was an emotional wreck. But I worked through it, thinking it was all just what happened when you were a slightly too intelligent for your own good teenager.

In my twenties, having started work at an organisation with a really bullying boss, I had another bout. This one had entirely different characteristics. They were not emotional, they were physical. In fact, although I was upset, I often just felt completely flat and dead inside. But the worst thing was that I became forgetful, I couldn't concentrate and couldn't think. Prior to visiting a doctor & a psychologist, I was seriously entertaining the idea that I had a tumour.

I got through that too.

Just recently I had another bout. The heaviest I have had since that time in my early twenties. And it is different again. This time I have periods of days and weeks when I am fine, and I can look objectively at what is going on and separate out the depression from the real feeling. Then a trigger will occur and everything will wash over me like a wave. I hold on to one branch and just hold on and hold on. The branch that I hold on to is the phrase "Just keep on going". Then it passes. And I am human again.

So I try very hard to not expose myself to the triggers right now, because they cause this response. I don't blame the triggers, but I just need the distance until my mind is stronger and better able to stand against these waves.

And it will be. It has been before. I am a tough bird really, although people don't think it. But I have been battling my thoughts for control of my mind for a large part of my life now. You think you have emotional control and strength? Nah, this is emotional control and strength.


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PrayerFireAngel
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Location: Merced, Ca
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Posted:I have functional depression. A term I had never heard of until I went to therapy for a year. I have been therapy free for a year now but their are times when I miss it. I am very social at work but once I am outside of work I like being alone. For me, being in a room with more than 5 people can be too much. I kept a written journal for a year. Now I have 2 online journals. I agree with having a healthy diet. I am on several medications for high blood pressure. I no longer drink alcohol or smoke cigarettes. I keep myself busy taking an online class & I am now learning Fire staff. I don't think I will ever be depression/anxiety free but I have learned to live/function with it. I do applaude my Best Friend though as he is the one who really has to deal with the brunt of my emotions. On my bad days I try to stay at home & write in my journal. On my good days I practice Staff and get out shopping or visiting with others. Their are no set answers here. Do whatever works for you.

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The Tea Fairy
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Posted:hug For everyone who is depressed, anxious, bipolar or, well, just a bit down...

Extra hugs out to Medusa, I've been through PTSD too and I know it's a real battle.

Extra hugs to Darkpoet too, it's no fun being put through course after course of meds, especially when you know the specialists don't know which will help.

Look through this thread, and take comfort that we are all in the same circle. It doesn't make life much better, but a bit less lonely...


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PsychoTronic
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Location: Greece-Samos-Athens
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Posted:Darkpoet you should change your medication. I started taking seroxat and I am perfectly fine so far, Panic attacks are gone and my fears are going away too. Together with the pills I am going to talk to my doctor( form of counsiling .(think I wrote that wrong) )
I dont have depression, only panic attacks and then fobias I might have them again and I didnt wanted people anymore I was at home me and my fears.Now I am much better and I suggest to everyone who has that kind of problems to go to a GOOD PSYCHIATRIST. It cannot harm.Be open to the ones that can help you. The diagnosis of what I have was made after bloodtests and after many doctors had seen me.I know it is not pathological but it is psychological and since I could not spit it away a psychiatrist is the perfect person to help me.And she is helping me.I met many people that went to her and now they are fine without pills because they have learnt to handle anxiety. I suppose that after some years my life would be totally different so I might not have the reasons to have attacks again. My doctor told me that anxiety is a sickness that has treatment.And when the treatment is over there is a little possibility to feel anxiety again but it will not be such bad.I will be able to handle it by then.Many people stop the treatment and dont follow doctors orders.That is why they have problems with anxiety,sometimes some pills it is possible that they cannot fit one person.Then he must speak with the therapist and they should change madication.When they find the pills and the dose that fits then everything will be totally fine.
I have walked through hell and this is the only solution I have found moreover maybe my problem is not that big as depression but If I havent been to a doctor I would have depression too.
I hope that i am going to be ok.
I really do hope so
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a land of which it is joy of all joys to dream, a land where all things are perfect and poisonous."
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Member Since: 6th Jan 2005
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Posted:note: this is not a direct response to anyone, just a general input.



Different medications work in different ways for different people. I took seroxat for two months, it gave me the shakes (continuous and severe), severe panic attacks and nausea. I only kept taking it for that long because my doctor said the side effects would stop within a month. Its been 4 years since i have taken it and i still get really bad shakes and chattery teeth and panic attacks. I also tried many other medications with none of them helping whatsoever.



Just because medication works for some people doesn't it will work for others.



i tried so many different things to get rid of my depression which i had since i was 12. it completely destroyed my entire life up until a few years ago.



In the end i threw out all my tablets and stopped relying on the doctors to help me (i would NOT recommend this because some people can react really badly to instant withdrawl). I had a moment of clarity and managed to pull myself out of it. It probably helped that it was a really great summer because i get really bad seasonal depression in the winter. I worked really hard and turned my life around. It was the most difficult thing that i have ever done but also the best. I looked at my life and changed it so much.



If you have to, change your job or education plan, you might have to finish some relationships if they are continuously causing pain or leading you astray, set yourself some goals and realise what you need to be happy. NOT what you need to make your parents/friends/partner/anyone else happy or what you need to be 'sucessful' or rich....what YOU need! You have to be selfish. Its all about you.



lots of hug to anyone who is going through depression and whatever you do DONT GIVE UP HOPE! you will be happy again

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Dixie
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Posted:I am sorry. I can't discuss this/offer advice on this site.
It helps me to keep a certain side of my life apart from the few things that give me pleasure.

I use the same user id on e-admit if anyone needs to talk.


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GothFrogette
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Location: Nuneaton
Member Since: 10th Oct 2004
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Posted:i have sever manic depression, i was first diganosed at 13. I was seeing a Shirnk (Psychologist) but he can't help me and have been referred for psychotherapy. On the pluss side i don't have to take meds if i don't want to... *I gave an obviousley good speach why i didn't want to* and i may get a free straight jacket.
i am battling with agraphobia.... and winnng i may add in sertain situations which is odd as sometime i can't face going down the shop. one big down fall, apart from not being at work = no money, is that i have been told to change careers. and its a big step for me to start out again from fresh at 29 frown
also the parts of my life i do enjoy i get to be made feel guilty. so all is fun with this froggy. but hey its what helps me being quirkey biggrin hug


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Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
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Posted:Quirky is marvellous...

And you're doing tremendously well on the outdoors melarky... much love to the goth frog hug


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Location: Galway/Ireland
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Posted:Written by: GothFrogette

no money, is that i have been told to change careers. and its a big step for me to start out again from fresh at 29 frown
also the parts of my life i do enjoy i get to be made feel guilty. so all is fun with this froggy. but hey its what helps me being quirkey biggrin hug



Me too smile

29... tis nuthing

and if your find yourself in the depths of worry, drop me a line. i've become quiet adepth at worrying the past few months so i'd be happy to join.

many hugs for being the bravest frog in the pond hug

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GothFrogette
GothFrogette

grumpy poorly froggy
Location: Nuneaton
Member Since: 10th Oct 2004
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Posted:redface grouphug i have only started to 'get better' since meeting all you guys i am going to have a T-Shirt that says HOPping save my life on the front and on the back I Live for HOPpers biggrin

i love you guys ubblove kiss


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Posted:cant give you the answer. the answer is inside of you.

I only say that because i had to find my answer to everything and i am still looking. The good thing about it is though is it's a journey. it's a massive adventure through this amazing thing called your mind. It's freakin hard, labourious, repetetive and tricky but the rewards you gain through self realisation far outweigh any time you sit down and think...what happend there? why am i alone? why does everyone hate me? I think everyone get's to the point where they question everything they are and who they are. the human mind will always comeback with an answer. that's why when we are depressed we think dying is the best thing because that's the easiest answer to give yourself. You dont have to think hard about it and really it's a great answer at the time because you think "oh...this should end it all and no more pain for me or anyone else around you".

Saying that though you have to think......how can you know if people around you are hurting if you dont have your eyes open? the only mind you know is your own. You cant tell yourself what someone else is thinking. if you are telling yourself that noone likes you then that's your opinion and when you are depressed you always give yourself the same answer that "why would anyone like me?" it's easy to stay at the bottom. because you can look up at that hole and say...."no way...i'm not climbing that...it's too much hard work....what if i fall? what if something goes wrong?" you have no way of knowing what's going to happen if you dont try to climb at some stage. yeah it's hard work but again...the rewards are massive. if you need help then ask for a rope or some other bizarre extraction device but if you know you need help then get it. I did it the hard way and climbed out myself. fell a few times but i grew wiser and stronger along the way and i eventually got out. Beautiful up here it is!!!

I only say this because my father commited suicide in '91 and it effected me greatly but has made me who i am today. i have sat and though a lot about it. So much so that i have taken myself to the point just so i can experience the pain and suffering that he was going through so i could understand it.not in the physical sense but in the mental sense. So i could fathom why the hell you would want to do that to yourself and more so to the point...others around you. i did this to myself without knowing though. that's where being mindful of yourself and your actions helps. not critical....you'll drive yourself nut's. mindful. learn from your mistakes.

I call depression and suicide a sickness of the mind and i really think that it is. you get tunnel vision and you just dont really care. They say the happiest moments of a suicide victims life in the point where they decide they are going to do something with their lives.....like end it. It's the certainty though. it's the feeling that they can finally do something and do it right and they are happy. same with depression though i guess. you think...why bother? all the time. the only times you really get happy is when a ceratinty comes into your life and then when it goes you thrust yourself back to where you came from and so the circle continues. this is the up's and downs you experience. They last longer because you start to think that even certainty is not certain anymore so why bother trying? The one thing that is certain in your life though is your heart and mind. If you want certainty then look inside yourself. that's where the answer is.

This is only personal experience. By no measure do i think i am right or wrong. strictly opinion based


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