You bastard!
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About 3 years ago a boy who shall remain un-named thought he would be extra safe by wearing wet clothes with dry clothes over them to do some fire play. It went BADLY wrong and he cooked himself like a lobster. His dry clothes caught fire, heated the water on the damp clothes and caused him to have 3rd degree steam burns over a good share of his body. His friends did the stop-drop-and roll, but since the water of the clothes was already heated the burning process continued. He was admitted to the ER and remained in the burn unit for a fairly long time. He had taken what he thought was good safety precautions, even had friends who knew what to do, and was injured far worse than if he had have stayed in dry clothes.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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At a fire meet, a drunk is a danger not just to him/her self, but to those spinning or watching in the vicinity.
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Lastly, you seem to be saying that it's ok for someone to endanger themselves if they want to, but I really don't want to have to watch a fire breathe go wrong, or hear some one screaming their heads off because they've got a burning wick wrapped and stuck on their arm.
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Like I said above, it's totally feasible for the groups who organise fire meets to set limits which apply not only to themselves, but to everyone who turns up. Then, if individuals really want to engage in behaviour that is considered too risky by the group, they can go off and do it by themselves so we don't have to watch them burn, or face the flak from the authorities when the clamp down comes.
So, I agree with you fully that if someone wants to set their own level of personal risk, then that's fine; but, equally, it's fine if a group set a level as to what they want at their meets, which could concievably include a ban on fire breathing and the use of intoxicants.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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Basically, spinning under the influence isn't right, but none of us can control what others do...... However, if the venue is safe, there are sober safety people, and the person can demonstrate their ability to spin controllably with something that's NOT on fire, then I don't think it's that big of a deal.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
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The point being that when a fire head breaks off a chain and goes flying into a tree or into a clump of grass, or under a wooden porch, a sober person will be much more likely to be able to deal with the emergency than a drunk/high/etc. person.
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Another point is that not all drunken firetwirling fools understand the risks associated with such behaviour - I think this has been demonstrated in this thread, and other related threads.
There is a big difference between educated risk taking and foolish bravado.
I think a valuable message is getting diluted with what are IMHO misguided attempts at civil libertarianism.
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"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."