DeepSoulSheep
DeepSoulSheep

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Berlin
Member Since: 25th Sep 2002
Total posts: 2617
Posted:I'm thinking about re-wicking my 4 footers or maybe just building new 5 footers. I want LOTS of fire though.

Obviously this takes a lot of wick so trying to figure out how I'm going to do it. At the moment I'm thinking 2 sets of 2 feet of 4 inch wick, side by side on each side (8 inches of wick on each side, 2 feet long).

I wonder would 2 feet give me a decent enough burn time? 8 inches still doesn't seem that big when I look at it though frown

Bluecat, how's those sticks you use on O'Minero that have fire down the length wicked and how do they work?

As you all know wick is expensive so anybody's ideas or comments on what wick you have and how you find it would be gladly recieved.

James


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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:Nah... Why do things by halfs? Get a 6 metres of 6cm wick and do two 1.5m long wicks at each end. Phat wicks is what you want... I think also if you could find 8cm wide kevlar it would be better, as well, you wouldn't have the gap... Or three lots of 4cm would do too...

And when you're attaching them I think it helps to wrap masking tape around the wicks before you start screwing in screws/bolts. It keeps the wick in place, and it makes the whole screwing process easier. (and it comes off at the end too! It's only masking tape.)

fire scares me.


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Cody
Cody

That guy from Reno
Location: Reno, Nevada USA
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2003
Total posts: 556
Posted:There is a staff version of the Canon balls. ubbloco I'll have to post a picture. Extreme amount of flame for the amount of wicking you use. When you wrap wicking over itself to bulk up the wick head, the covered wicking just becomes a sponge for fuel. It's not exposed to fire and as much heat. Use something else to bulk up the head then cover it with the expensive kevlar. There is pictures of the Canon balls in my gallery. Hopefully they'll give you some ideas. smile

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JauntyJames
JauntyJames

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Hampshire College, MA, USA
Member Since: 22nd Dec 2004
Total posts: 3533
Posted:i'm currently makeing a staff, and i was wondering how much kevlar i need to buy for a good, reasonable sized wick. any suggestions?

-James

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Gruntathon
Gruntathon

stranger
Location: Sydney
Member Since: 18th Mar 2005
Total posts: 7
Posted:I have 8 inches of wick on each end of my stick, which is about 4-5 feet total length.

Its hot and scary enough with 8 inches I would not recommend going any more unless you have a very long stick. 8 inches is practically too much as it is, if im not twirling it, it gets burny handy.

It burns for a long time, more than enough to get me tired, and does not go out easily, which is great if you want to go fast.

The sound is very impressive as well.


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mech
mech

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: "In your ear"
Member Since: 9th Jun 2003
Total posts: 6207
Posted:i use on my staffs that i sell... 50cm of 4 inch wick on easch end as a base

this gives a really good visual burn time, as as the tick is wrapped tightly the fule can not escape as eaily as with a lose wick, meaning teh fire draws it out better and thus a better burn

if you wish to extend you wicks then butt up next to it the desired length

i would start with adding maybe about 2inches to your 4, or if you wish add 4 to four right up next to it

this will give you a differnet style flame size, and a larger flame at burn off, but more wick means more fire, so be carefull, you dont wnat to have so much wick the staff is unusable due to teh lames lick up the staff and burn your hands, and also yuo dont wnat it to produce so many fumes that it makes you ill

the most i have had on a staff os 16 inches, and taht hurt!

the flames rose up teh staff and burn my hands so that they tingled it was not very nice, shorty afater the staff was killed and teh wick used on different toys!

if you can have a look at other peoples stcisk around you at your next meet, you might find a 6inch flame is teh right way to go for you

strugz has a 6inch wick after he saw mine a while back, and taht what i like, although at the mo im using 4 inch wicks ill be going back to 6 when i make my new toys biggrin

enjoy


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ado-p
ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:I was think about wrapping the wicking down the staff until it was as long as i needed it to be and then adding layers as required.

my question would be whats the minimum number of layers you can get away with.

right now i have 6 2ft lengths of 4inch whid wick just waiting to be gobbled yup by a fire monster.


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Stongsfire
member
Location: Hawaii
Member Since: 11th May 2004
Total posts: 53
Posted:I just burned with my double wicks......it was great. A lot of fire. best time of my life. :Smile:

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Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze? Cold comfort for change?
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strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:Another way of wicking a stick for lots of fire surface are using kevlar rope.

Cut out a groove across the top of the staff, lay the rope in it and then twist away. It should look like one of those twister lollies when done but it dont arf get hot!

The end is finished with a screw and washer to hold in place (part timber core)

Burn time is about 6-7mins and its surprising the fuel they hold - this was with 1/4inch rope.

Scroll down a little but - my stix

I made them ages ago and the pix are not great nut they will give you an idea of what im going on about............

Have fun smile


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Lavatwilight
Lavatwilight

old hand
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
Member Since: 11th Aug 2004
Total posts: 834
Posted:strugz.......could i get you to make me some sticks if i give you some cash? as i want a pair that are not bendy like mine

Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars

Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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strugz
strugz

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Southampton - Possibly...
Member Since: 6th Mar 2002
Total posts: 3964
Posted:Check pmz 2moz, got to go work now smile



but yeh wink

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Lavatwilight
Lavatwilight

old hand
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
Member Since: 11th Aug 2004
Total posts: 834
Posted:thank you smile

Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars

Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film

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razza
member
Location: Helensburgh
Member Since: 28th Jan 2006
Total posts: 43
Posted:how do u get the wicks to stick to the staff ???

Horsepower is how fast u hit a tree. Tourqe is how far the tree goes with u

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allfiredup
allfiredup

stranger
Location: nz
Member Since: 4th Apr 2006
Total posts: 19
Posted:u can u wire

drill a hole threw the staff wrap the kevla around
push wire through then twist it

it gets hot if u dont drill same holes further down the staff

have any 1 tried different hole sizes 4 different harmonics ?? grouphug


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razza
member
Location: Helensburgh
Member Since: 28th Jan 2006
Total posts: 43
Posted:with towel wicks y do people say to cover in in PVA glues wats does PVA glue do ???

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mrsoap
mrsoap

newbie
Location: Brisbane, QLD
Member Since: 22nd Jun 2005
Total posts: 9
Posted:I'm really lazy. When I run out of whick, I just buy a new staff.

Love,
- Eric

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doctor_fandango
doctor_fandango

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Posted:a quick wuesion , should the wick be rolled tight on the staff, or a little looser , or realy loose.. i thought that a little loose would be best, cos then the fuel can get into the middle that bit easier.. any advice/ suggestions out there?

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TinklePants
TinklePants

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Location: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr
Member Since: 3rd Jul 2005
Total posts: 4217
Posted: Written by: razza


with towel wicks y do people say to cover in in PVA glues wats does PVA glue do ???


PVA glue gets harder and harder when it burns and stops the edges from fraying - so I'm told smile


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DeepSoulSheep
DeepSoulSheep

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Berlin
Member Since: 25th Sep 2002
Total posts: 2617
Posted:I thought looser, meant a faster brighter burn, with more air, better burn offs etc.

Ben told me tighter is better and I am converted at the moment. Burn offs are still fine, burns longer and plenty bright.

I think tighter'll have the wicks last longer tooo....


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_Clare_
_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:Yep... wicks last longer if they are tighter (I've found)... not too tight though, cos then the fuel doesn't get into it properly.

smile


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ado-p
ado-p

Pirate Ninja
Location: Galway/Ireland
Member Since: 13th May 2004
Total posts: 3882
Posted:I like em tight..

Love is the law.

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Sporky
Sporky

addict
Location: Glasgow
Member Since: 25th Jul 2005
Total posts: 663
Posted:I always fray one of the corners at the end of the wick so that they are easier to light.

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Zauberdachs
Zauberdachs

enthusiast
Location: The village of Edinburgh
Member Since: 28th Jul 2004
Total posts: 220
Posted: Written by: OvertlyFlirtatiousSpork


I always fray one of the corners at the end of the wick so that they are easier to light.



Give them a couple of weeks and they'll get there on their own smile I usually dip the ends in glue to stop them fraying so quickly and thus greatly lengthening the life of the stick.

When you are wicking them pull a few strands out of the cut edge and let them stick out. This gives you an easy to light end without having to kick start the fraying process. hug


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borganique
borganique

member
Location: Cornwall
Member Since: 6th Jan 2006
Total posts: 154
Posted:i've started gaffa taping my wicks when not on fire, saves wear when they hit the floor and makes them nice and fluffy and easy to light when you remove it, and you can have them ready soaked underneath, ready to burn.

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Frenzics
newbie
Location: Melbourne, VIC
Member Since: 10th Nov 2007
Total posts: 10
Posted:ok... so i plan on re-wicking (if that's a word) my current staff. it's got 2" wicks atmn but i wanna out 4" ones on it.
How should i go about it? what materials do i need and how do i attach it? A friend told me the kevlar (obviously) and the screws which i think i already have from my staff at the moment, but HOW?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated:)


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Fire_Moose
Fire_Moose

Elusive and Bearded
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Member Since: 2nd May 2007
Total posts: 3597
Posted:1. Remove old wicking.
2. Use masking tape to secure one end of the new wicking to the shaft. This is best done by starting the masking tape on the shaft, wraping it around so it overlaps, then sticking it to the wicking, about 3 or 4 inches onto the wicking is best.
3. Best if this can be done in a vice, but start to wrap the wicking around and around, pulling it TIGHT (see why the vise is useful?). I will usually wrap once then PULL, wrap around again and PULL, rinse and repeat.
4. Once you get towards the end of your new wicking i like to fold it back under itself. This is useful because you can adjust where the wicking ends and makes the little flap hanging over double thick.
5. Pull folded end into place (tightly) and wrap more masking tape around the wick to hold it. I like to wrap it all the way around the wick.
6. Drill a hole STRAIGHT down through the Kevlar and tubing using a drill bit that is slightly smaller then your screws, you should be able to feel the bit either hit and old hole or stop for a second while drilling a new hole in the metal.
7. Screw in the screws, i reccomend using washers as well. With 4 inch wicks i will usually only use 2 screws.
8. Flip your stick and refer to #1.


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