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Ok just posted this in my intro thread but though it should be here so a quick copy/paste and shazzam.......
I was thinking today, (yes that was the noise) if I get a special link (that I have in mind so no knicking my ideas!
) for my poi handles, I could make it so they snap together/come apart real easily and I could do meteor stuff and then sperate them to do the other poi stuff that isn't really possible with meteors.
I'd call them Poiteors and I think they'd be dead good.....whadya reckon?
Ok just posted this in my intro thread but though it should be here so a quick copy/paste and shazzam.......
I was thinking today, (yes that was the noise) if I get a special link (that I have in mind so no knicking my ideas!
) for my poi handles, I could make it so they snap together/come apart real easily and I could do meteor stuff and then sperate them to do the other poi stuff that isn't really possible with meteors. I'd call them Poiteors and I think they'd be dead good.....whadya reckon?
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starring Skippy the green llama
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Posted:
has been done
wouldn't mind tryin em out meself tho..Would your special link allow conversion to meteor and back to poi?
has been done
wouldn't mind tryin em out meself tho..Would your special link allow conversion to meteor and back to poi?First intention, then enlightenment..
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Posted:
Where was it done before? I did a search but twas fruitless.
They'd be able to go back and forth from poi to meteor to poi at will, although going from poi to meteor would be slightly easier but a quick flick of the thumb and they'd be back to poi again.
Where was it done before? I did a search but twas fruitless.
They'd be able to go back and forth from poi to meteor to poi at will, although going from poi to meteor would be slightly easier but a quick flick of the thumb and they'd be back to poi again.
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Posted:
definitely been done by someone here.
i think they used one of those climbing carabeena (sp?) things on the end of one poi and a ring on the other.
like musashii i'd love to try a set
go for it - it certainly isn't that common that you're gonna run into lots of other people with a set like that.
will have a look round for that post for ya...
definitely been done by someone here.
i think they used one of those climbing carabeena (sp?) things on the end of one poi and a ring on the other.
like musashii i'd love to try a set
go for it - it certainly isn't that common that you're gonna run into lots of other people with a set like that.
will have a look round for that post for ya...
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Cheers Coleman. don't know what a carabeena are (did web search but nothing came up with a piccie)
I'm gonna have a go at making them sometime soon. I think I'll use some rope and monkey fist knots (If I ever get them right at some point!!) then it should be quite simple to join them together. I actually have a couple ideas now for the link, one involving loops and the other a short tube but I think the loops are winning at the mo
Anyways, I'll keep ya posted!!
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Cheers Coleman. don't know what a carabeena are (did web search but nothing came up with a piccie)
I'm gonna have a go at making them sometime soon. I think I'll use some rope and monkey fist knots (If I ever get them right at some point!!
) then it should be quite simple to join them together. I actually have a couple ideas now for the link, one involving loops and the other a short tube but I think the loops are winning at the moAnyways, I'll keep ya posted!!
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Posted:
lol
their called carribeaners (sp?) or a beaner for short (not caribeana lol.....u heard caribeana from a brit i suppose?), and you use them on your harness and for toprope climbing especially, and personally, id think that spinnin meteors w\ a beaner would be the dumbest thing you could do, if you get your fingers caught inside of the beaner while spinning, they will get broken......esp when you start using heavier wicks like cathedrals and most especially the monkies
there are a few really easy ways to go about this little dilema of yours
one : use boot lace to tie your poi handles together, and take the wicks off..there u go..meteor chain...have another set of chains ready and you can just switch off wicks
you can take the handles themselves off the chain..not really a big issue you just make sure you have a pair of pliars and you just take the handles off of your triangle shaped quicklinks, grab some shoe string..tie em together....there u go...but having more than one set of chains and wicks helps like no other......u dont wanna keep your audiance waiting for you to untie\retie and wait for your wicks to get a good soak so having more than one set is def. a good thing
.....just me thoughts on the whole idea
lol
their called carribeaners (sp?) or a beaner for short (not caribeana lol.....u heard caribeana from a brit i suppose?), and you use them on your harness and for toprope climbing especially, and personally, id think that spinnin meteors w\ a beaner would be the dumbest thing you could do, if you get your fingers caught inside of the beaner while spinning, they will get broken......esp when you start using heavier wicks like cathedrals and most especially the monkies
there are a few really easy ways to go about this little dilema of yours
one : use boot lace to tie your poi handles together, and take the wicks off..there u go..meteor chain...have another set of chains ready and you can just switch off wicks
you can take the handles themselves off the chain..not really a big issue you just make sure you have a pair of pliars and you just take the handles off of your triangle shaped quicklinks, grab some shoe string..tie em together....there u go...but having more than one set of chains and wicks helps like no other......u dont wanna keep your audiance waiting for you to untie\retie and wait for your wicks to get a good soak so having more than one set is def. a good thing
.....just me thoughts on the whole idea
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Thanks darkpoet, I have no idea what crribeaners are but you have convinced me not to bother finding out!
I think you miss understand what i'm making. I'm not making Meteors, I already have Meteors, I'm making a type of connector so I can do all the poi moves and then click them together for Meteor and then click them apart for poi again. It should work if my thinkings right and the hoops I'm planning to use are very small so I shouldnt get my fingers caught in them.
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spinnin meteors w\ a beaner would be the dumbest thing you could do, if you get your fingers caught inside of the beaner while spinning, they will get broken
there are a few really easy ways to go about this little dilema of yours
one : use boot lace to tie your poi handles together, and take the wicks off..there u go..meteor chain...have another
Thanks darkpoet, I have no idea what crribeaners are but you have convinced me not to bother finding out!
I think you miss understand what i'm making. I'm not making Meteors, I already have Meteors, I'm making a type of connector so I can do all the poi moves and then click them together for Meteor and then click them apart for poi again. It should work if my thinkings right and the hoops I'm planning to use are very small so I shouldnt get my fingers caught in them.
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Oh and thanks for the two sets idea....good thinkin!
Oh and thanks for the two sets idea....good thinkin!
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Posted:
^ those are 'beaners, see how their shaped in an oval? it makes for a VERY strange experiance, but you see how im saying you fingers can get caught?, personally i say just using quicklinks and making a chain of just quicklinks so you just detach one and there you go...poi.......but ill see if i cant think of something
cheers mate
^ those are 'beaners, see how their shaped in an oval? it makes for a VERY strange experiance, but you see how im saying you fingers can get caught?, personally i say just using quicklinks and making a chain of just quicklinks so you just detach one and there you go...poi.......but ill see if i cant think of something
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ah those are beaners....I see!! Cheers!!
My idea was similar to them but completely different....erm...that makes no sense what so ever!! HA HA!!
Erm...they'll have to wait till they're finished so i can take a piccie.
But Poet, the reason I dont wanna use quick links is because the change from meteor to poi will be during the performance..infact during a move! Not while resting, unscrewing and then going again. I'm trying to aim for a smooth seamless transition between the two
ah those are beaners....I see!! Cheers!!
My idea was similar to them but completely different....erm...that makes no sense what so ever!! HA HA!!
Erm...they'll have to wait till they're finished so i can take a piccie.But Poet, the reason I dont wanna use quick links is because the change from meteor to poi will be during the performance..infact during a move! Not while resting, unscrewing and then going again. I'm trying to aim for a smooth seamless transition between the two
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Posted:
custom bug. wrck an old set of speakers and use magnets .
pull apart. connect together.
just an idea for mid flow poiteoring
custom bug. wrck an old set of speakers and use magnets .
pull apart. connect together.
just an idea for mid flow poiteoring
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Posted:
I say go for the carabeeners heck you could even purpously stick you fingers in the ring and do the equivalent of a palm spin. You would have to be spinning sledge hammers at mac 10 before the center would be spinning fast enough to squish your fingers, even then you would likely get you knuckles scrapped not mortally wounded.
Idea at the end of your show stick like three fingers in the carabeener and let the wicks wrap arround your arm like a maypole. 
I say go for the carabeeners heck you could even purpously stick you fingers in the ring and do the equivalent of a palm spin. You would have to be spinning sledge hammers at mac 10 before the center would be spinning fast enough to squish your fingers, even then you would likely get you knuckles scrapped not mortally wounded.
Idea
at the end of your show stick like three fingers in the carabeener and let the wicks wrap arround your arm like a maypole. Cody Canon
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Posted:
well, I definitely posted this idea on this board some years ago If you want to really find it do a search under my member number/name...and trawl all my posts. I think it might have been about 2 1/2 to 3 years ago?
I used a climbing caribeena, cuz I worked out a way of opening and closing it with one hand while twirling. Never got a broken finger from it tho...
havent done this in ages. The way I see it, if you want to do meteor, get a meteor and do it properly!
Josh
well, I definitely posted this idea on this board some years ago
If you want to really find it do a search under my member number/name...and trawl all my posts. I think it might have been about 2 1/2 to 3 years ago?I used a climbing caribeena, cuz I worked out a way of opening and closing it with one hand while twirling. Never got a broken finger from it tho...
havent done this in ages. The way I see it, if you want to do meteor, get a meteor and do it properly!
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I also posted that I'd done this a good while ago. I've searched and not been able to find it. I think it was a response to a thread originally started by Skunk or something.
They were the 3rd set of poi, I ever lost....
I also posted that I'd done this a good while ago. I've searched and not been able to find it. I think it was a response to a thread originally started by Skunk or something.
They were the 3rd set of poi, I ever lost....
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sheesh.....doesn't anyone read the entire thread....I ALREADY HAVE METEOR!!!
And I have poi and that's what made me think of combining the two for extra special ness!
I might give the caribeena's a try if you've had success then, I like the magnet idea although car speaker may be a little on the large side.
I've developed another idea into a work in progress now involving very short tube connectors the same width as the rope that click into each other and release with a little push on a flat button.
Keep it coming guys, I need the voice of experience. Oh and Josh I looked for your thread but haven't found it yet...but there's a lot to get through so I'll keep my eyes open!
Cheers!
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.....The way I see it, if you want to do meteor, get a meteor and do it properly!....
sheesh.....doesn't anyone read the entire thread....I ALREADY HAVE METEOR!!!
And I have poi and that's what made me think of combining the two for extra special ness! I might give the caribeena's a try if you've had success then, I like the magnet idea although car speaker may be a little on the large side.
I've developed another idea into a work in progress now involving very short tube connectors the same width as the rope that click into each other and release with a little push on a flat button.
Keep it coming guys, I need the voice of experience. Oh and Josh I looked for your thread but haven't found it yet...but there's a lot to get through so I'll keep my eyes open!
Cheers!
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starring Skippy the green llama
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Posted:
Thats kinda what I was thinking of as well..I've seen some dog chains or key chains that work this way, seems like this design would be easier to in and out of, not to mention you might be able to do a throw as a transition from meteor to poi this way
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I've developed another idea into a work in progress now involving very short tube connectors the same width as the rope that click into each other and release with a little push on a flat button.
Thats kinda what I was thinking of as well..I've seen some dog chains or key chains that work this way, seems like this design would be easier to in and out of, not to mention you might be able to do a throw as a transition from meteor to poi this way
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The caribeena's work really well, because they attach so easily.
I got perfect sized ones for about 3 euros each as part of a key ring. I actually bought 2 cause he had not got split rings.....a cool accident really
The caribeena's work really well, because they attach so easily.
I got perfect sized ones for about 3 euros each as part of a key ring. I actually bought 2 cause he had not got split rings.....a cool accident really
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of course!!! The long keyring thingies with switches on dog leads!
Musashii...where would I be without you!! You clever boy you!
To the theme of Wizzard of oz
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I'm off I'm off I'm off I'm off
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They won't be used on a dog
of course!!! The long keyring thingies with switches on dog leads!
Musashii...where would I be without you!! You clever boy you!
To the theme of Wizzard of oz
I'm off to see the shop owner
The shop owner with keyrings for dogs
I'm off I'm off I'm off I'm off
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They won't be used on a dog
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Ok they are now made. I decided for ease of use and for simple construction sock poi were the best way to go so that's what I've done. Two socks each with the dog-chain style keyring on the end and spin tastic! Still getting used to them and they need some refinement with respect to the methods the keyrings are attached but I'm getting closer to nailing a hyperloop -> windmill -> butterfly but I gotta get used to flicking open the switches at exactly the right time which is proving a little tricky but these things are sent to try us and overcome them we shall!!
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Ok they are now made. I decided for ease of use and for simple construction sock poi were the best way to go so that's what I've done. Two socks each with the dog-chain style keyring on the end and spin tastic!
Still getting used to them and they need some refinement with respect to the methods the keyrings are attached but I'm getting closer to nailing a hyperloop -> windmill -> butterfly but I gotta get used to flicking open the switches at exactly the right time which is proving a little tricky but these things are sent to try us and overcome them we shall!! zoom spin loop spin weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Let's relight this forum
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Posted:
peeectures!!!
peeectures!!!
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I know it's not quite what you had in mind, but most meteor stuff can be via one handed poi - including behind the back passing and one hnd bfly stuff. You just need to practice passing the poi to your hands. The only things you can't do really are the handsfree wraps ( you need a handsfree kit ) and continuous pinwheel (although it can be done for two/three circles/beats if you're quick)
Send television reporters and I will demonstrate.
I know it's not quite what you had in mind, but most meteor stuff can be via one handed poi - including behind the back passing and one hnd bfly stuff. You just need to practice passing the poi to your hands. The only things you can't do really are the handsfree wraps ( you need a handsfree kit
) and continuous pinwheel (although it can be done for two/three circles/beats if you're quick)Send television reporters and I will demonstrate.
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or proper helicopters or windmills. Nor flick it through my fingers.....tee hee.....but I see your point.
How can I publish pictures here?? I don't have anything to link the url to
or proper helicopters or windmills. Nor flick it through my fingers.....tee hee.....but I see your point.
How can I publish pictures here?? I don't have anything to link the url to
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oh yeah and I forgot to mention that inside the socks are some of the rainbow glowy hacky sacks from here and they shine through the material quite well so look dead good at night...but for some reason don't appear at all on the camera on my phone!!?!!
oh yeah and I forgot to mention that inside the socks are some of the rainbow glowy hacky sacks from here and they shine through the material quite well so look dead good at night...but for some reason don't appear at all on the camera on my phone!!?!!
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ok, i think i know the perfect thing!
firstly the other suggestions.
magnet, impractical. metiors exert a lot of force and the force required to keep them together would probibly make them very difficult to seperate, add to that the possibility of them getting stuck to the chain, a ring or screwing up your watch and i dont think you want to do it. (imagine throwing the poi and them becoming half the length midair)
beaners. Good things, lots of loading, dont think they would mess up your fingers, but they are bulky, and prolly difficult to get out of. go to any outdoor shop to but them but they are expensive.
the solution! you know on rucksacs they have toggles to join the waist/chest straps, little plastic things that have a button either side to release? good loading, easy join/release, cheap and replaceable.
T
ok, i think i know the perfect thing!
firstly the other suggestions.
magnet, impractical. metiors exert a lot of force and the force required to keep them together would probibly make them very difficult to seperate, add to that the possibility of them getting stuck to the chain, a ring or screwing up your watch and i dont think you want to do it. (imagine throwing the poi and them becoming half the length midair)
beaners. Good things, lots of loading, dont think they would mess up your fingers, but they are bulky, and prolly difficult to get out of. go to any outdoor shop to but them but they are expensive.
the solution! you know on rucksacs they have toggles to join the waist/chest straps, little plastic things that have a button either side to release? good loading, easy join/release, cheap and replaceable.
T
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they can end up all crappy and loose over time, and just come apart when you pull hard enough. Got a sports bag thats had numerous interesting trips down flights of stairs because of that...
but they are easily replaceable so woo!
they can end up all crappy and loose over time, and just come apart when you pull hard enough. Got a sports bag thats had numerous interesting trips down flights of stairs because of that...
but they are easily replaceable so woo!
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how would you connect the string/ rope/ cord/ line/ chains/ snakes/ spaghetti/ goblin entrails to the snap locks?
how would you connect the string/ rope/ cord/ line/ chains/ snakes/ spaghetti/ goblin entrails to the snap locks?
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have a handle witch is a strip with two eyelets, one at each end, feed handle through clip, put both eylets through quicklink. ta freaking da!
do i have to do all the thinking round here?
T
have a handle witch is a strip with two eyelets, one at each end, feed handle through clip, put both eylets through quicklink. ta freaking da!
do i have to do all the thinking round here?
T
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i'm not sure...
do you?
i'm not sure...
do you?
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Posted:
time to the monkey!
time to
the monkey! This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
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If what you're saying is what I'm thinking I just bought some chain that has connectors like that. They work like beaners I think, they're like the wallet chain connectors? A small loop with an opening that just pushes open internally so the other loop pops right in. Then pull the lever to release. They were £1 for each chain from Bristol Museum of all places!! Chains are a little short but that's ok for indoors at the mo. Gonna put the links on my socks i think and see if it's any easier than what I got now
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the solution! you know on rucksacs they have toggles to join the waist/chest straps, little plastic things that have a button either side to release? good loading, easy join/release, cheap and replaceable.
T
If what you're saying is what I'm thinking I just bought some chain that has connectors like that. They work like beaners I think, they're like the wallet chain connectors? A small loop with an opening that just pushes open internally so the other loop pops right in. Then pull the lever to release. They were £1 for each chain from Bristol Museum of all places!! Chains are a little short but that's ok for indoors at the mo. Gonna put the links on my socks i think and see if it's any easier than what I got now
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