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Don't know about In other countries but in the UK Poi has had a real hard time getting the respect that it deserves from other forms of object manipulation. Mainly because it's got quite a low entry level and people seemed to make the leap that if it starts easy it must all be easy. This of course is a big pile of poo, it's not about about how high or low the entry level is it's about where you can take it to.
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thanks guys, you(dave) were one of the people i was really aiming this thread at, as someone who is good at both and objective from soo many angles
i couldn't agree more with your sentiments on jugglers being elitist tho... i think that is a reflection on the fact that juggling is the 'premier'(would say first, but diabolo...?) form of object manipulation, i.e. the one practised by more people than any other...
would you object if i could have a read of what you are compiling dave? it is a subject i have felt veryvery strongly about for a long time and so would be really interested in hearing your in-depth arguements on it...
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Dave thats an awesome article.
and comes to pretty much the same conclusion as me: that the major problem is a space issue(in terms of: taking up too much, 'our' space, etcetc.)
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I've started to play around with juggling and I take up alot of room. I'm still in the walking/juggling phases, I occupy a 10 foot corridor of space whenever I juggle, unless I stand facing a wall
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a good point Eera that seems to argue against the 1,2,3...object statement....no?
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a good point Eera that seems to argue against the 1,2,3...object statement....no?
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but i really don't see how poi has a lower entry level or even that juggling is anywhere near harder than poi. sounds elitist to me.
sorry but juggling isn't that hard. i can teach somebody to juggle in about 5 minutes.
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sorry but juggling isn't that hard. i can teach somebody to juggle in about 5 minutes.
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poi is deffienetly easy to impress people with though.... a non spinny, juggely person will be impressed by a weave, everyones seen someone juggle three balls before, and its not that impressive.
i think this could be what jugglers maybe dont like about spinners. but as i dont know any jugglers, im probably wrong
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From memory, he looks at the type and number of object/s being mainpulated. Like one object (pen) 2 (poi) 3 (balls) and so on. IMHO it takes a lot more practice to manipulate 3 or more.
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but i really don't see how poi has a lower entry level or even that juggling is anywhere near harder than poi. sounds elitist to me.
sorry but juggling isn't that hard. i can teach somebody to juggle in about 5 minutes.....
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