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simian


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Posted:Lots of useful threads about hyperloops\airwraps\knots\tangles\nexuseses\randy badgers.



Please post random rubbish in this thread to keep it bumped biggrin



Read These First



Airwraps and Hyperloops

A funky article by Dom, introducing and explaining the terms airwrap and hyperloop.

Includes this important observation:Written by: "Dom"
"The word "hyperloop" was first used on this board by Glass in October 2002. Since then there has been constant debate about what a hyperloop actually is. Ultimately a hyperloop is part of the airwrap family of moves and it doesn't actually matter what it is or what it's called as long as you're having fun."





hyperloop - the basic 4-beat

an excellent 'how-to' guide for the most basic tangling move from Professor Coleman. The thread that started me hitting my poi together on purpose.



The Jedi Set

This thread is basically what got all the techie people into Hyperloops and Isolations. Here you can verify that this stuff is all Glass fault spank

It's massive and has lots of interesting stuff (if you skim past the occasional bout of arguments/accusations)



Butterfly Threads



Butterfly air wraps

Dom & Dantana explain the whole tangly butterfly thingy



butterfly hyperloop

Dantana, Coleman, Poibox and Nix? explain the whole tangly butterfly thingy



Wierd airwrap I fell upon

includes MORE useful stuff about butterfly thingies from Dr Dantana. He knows his thingies he does



butterfly hyperloop wrap...thing

Starts off describing recoil-wrapping one-poi from a butterfly tangle. Goes into more general butterfly tangly advice.



Buzzsaw Threads



its a bit like a airwrap but differernt

In fact its a tangled buzzsaw smile



Tangled Buzzsaw

OK thread, but not enormously informative or helpful.



Perpetual Tangled Buzzsaw

advice on how to keep buzzsaw tangles going. Good stuff.



Fun Stuff to do with Tangles

Oli explains stuff about adding and removing twists from tangly buzzsaws (with nice diagrams smile )



ok, this one really is a new move, sorta, whatever...hyperbuzzsaw

not particularly informative or helpful



Helpful Theoretical Type Threads



Ninjaz & BTB Hyperloops

More than what it says in the title. Messed up tangly conversations.



inside or inverted airwraps...

i reckon this is a very useful thread for advancing your understanding of tangles in general.



anti-spin tangle thoughts...

The effects of rotating hands contrary to spin direction. Reducing the amount of time you spend untangled.



Corkscrew Airwraps

Horizontal tangly stuff and a bit of general chatter. Definitely worth checking out.



Wierd Moves n Stuff



Fun stuff to do with tangly things...

Three awesome new tangly moves (with video) from the Reverend Rev



a few bits of fun perchance...

another great thread by le chat bleu with many funky ideas to play with



between the legs airwraps

Good description of and advice about between the legs airwraps



Atomic Hyps

(but... aren't all hyperloops atomic? confused)



Double Hyperloops

Groovy idea from Tommy Nixford. Needs long poi.



Multi-Beat Airwraps

Stuff about how to get lots of beats in airwraps



multibeat hyp/twisties, AGAIN!!

Stuff about how to get lots of beats in airwraps. again...



Stalls from airwraps

stuff about tangling poi then stalling them...



One-Handed Tangles

"...like some freaky astrojack/meteor mutant monster!"



downward conical airwrap spider (exits)

Horizontal tangled throws from Dr Dantana



bounce hyperloops

you can put bouncy balls in socks then go tangle tangle bounce bounce tangle bounce.

Thats about the size of it. Its a short thread smile



Other Useful Bits



Hyperloops made easy. It's all in the poi

General advice about learning. Very useful.



hyperloops vs. air wraps

Argh! Terminology debate! Mummy, im scared...



Hyperloop blues

sometimes hyperloops make you sad PART ONE! :sad:



Back in Tangles

sometimes hyperloops make you sad PART TWO! ubbcrying



Only included for the sake of completeness



BTB Hyperloops and other variations?

Given it's useful sounding title, this thread is quite shockingly pointless ubblol



fountain to hyperloop tuckturn

Some stuff about turning with hyperloops. Not enormously useful.



Hyperloop Help\Wierdness

Some random stuff ball chain, 3 beat corkscrews, teabags and cone-shaped gravity



Calling all Hyperloop Boffs

Mainly descends into terminology confusion frown



Hyperloops...again. Simple question

simple question? About hyperloops? ubblolubblolubblolubblol



Hyperloop fountains....

oh god, dont mention fountains, youll only upset cole

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"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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Birgit
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Birgit

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Posted:holidays are tempting, but no...
nice post on tribe though (except the little calling-people-silly-names-competition), at least it confirmed my suspicions about some people's discussion-skills... I'm quite tempted to keep following the debate though I think it might be best to leave it alone, doesn't look like it's gonna get productive anytime soon!
But thanks so much for reviving that thread!! I should've durbsed for it, but it seems I'm lucky biggrin


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Posted:"except the little calling-people-silly-names-competition"

Fruitloop :P

"at least it confirmed my suspicions about some people's discussion-skills"
Oh..bum. Im not usually that bad.. oh wait.. no.. honestly.. Im not usually that bad. Honest! smile


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Birgit
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Posted:can we make "to durbse" a new verb, or is it one already? I've never met Durbs, but durbsing sounds cool to me.

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mixinluv2u


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Posted:Written by: "Dom"
"The word "hyperloop" was first used on this board by Glass in October 2002. Since then there has been constant debate about what a hyperloop actually is. Ultimately a hyperloop is part of the airwrap family of moves and it doesn't actually matter what it is or what it's called as long as you're having fun."



does anyone know when the first video recording of airwrap/hyperloop appeared on HoP? if so, which video was it?


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NYC


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Posted:Unfortunately, HoP doesn't rush to vid everytime something comes out. Kids in London have been hyperlooping for years before I ever saw it on video.

I'd bet you could find some threads from way before the first video was posted.

I know that Glass and them were doin' it back in the day. And those guys are vampires when it comes to showing up on film. biggrin


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coleman
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Posted:well, i was a late starter with poi (first picked them up around 2002) but for what its worth, the first time i personally heard of a 'hyperloop' was here.



i first saw a hyperloop on a video called 'drew & stick' (produced and performed by glass from this board - it was a stick video and only had two poi moves in it!).

my friend jonnny worked out how to do them from that video and subsequently taught me smile



i can't remember where i first saw airwraps but i definitely learnt what was termed a 'hyperloop' before i learnt general airwrap theory.

i discovered a lot of what i know about tangles for myself (misunderstanding of a maxi plus led me to buzzsaw hyperloops and beyond) and from discussions here (hug2 glass hug2 arashi hug2 dantana).



i don't think anyone here would ever claim to have been the first to do this type of move though - possession or orignation are not what dom's quote is about.





cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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mixinluv2u


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Posted:well, according to the article on HoP. the word "hyperloop" was first used in October 2002. were there any reference before that?

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NYC


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Posted:I'd assume not.

If you want to know what Glass was on about at the time, you could always ask him.

Glass was the first guy to talk hyperloop theory to me back in the day, but I was very late on the scene.

Not sure where this is going.... keep in mind there was a HoP board before this one too... but I think if you asked some of the old timers directly, they'd tell you.

Or perhaps dodge the question with a series of lovable smiley faces.

wink ubbangel


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Posted:i been around HoP since the beginning of 2002, and i do not remember seeing anything about hyperloops and/or airwraps before then. i just wanted to ask to make sure i didn't miss anything.
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Posted:I know I didn't see many at EJC 2002 (Bremen).

That's when Glass showed me isolations and some wacky butterfly variants... which I just now figured out. biggrin


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coleman
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Posted:Written by: mixinluv2u

i been around HoP since the beginning of 2002, and i do not remember seeing anything about hyperloops and/or airwraps before then. i just wanted to ask to make sure i didn't miss anything.



you won't have missed anything wes.

most of the talk on hop regarding airwraps/hyperloops was started in a thread called 'the jedi set'.

if you read that and then search from hyperloop/airwrap threads from that date onwards, you should see the learning progression that the spinners posting here on hop went through.

the video thread i referenced and that you were asking about can be found here.

hope that helps,


cole. x


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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ShawnF


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Posted:I find it a bit funny how how up in the air the tangler origins are.

I could have sworn that when the hyperloop stuff first started happening on HoP (I was more active in the boards then) that I'd already seen yo-yo people doing it. I'll try and see if I can dig up when the yo-yo players started to do it, but I think there's some confusion on who did it first and/or whether they learned it from somewhere else.

One person I was just talking to thinks that Kazuyuiki Sugimatsu may have been the first yo-yo person to start doing it around 2000. He's going to e-mail Kazu and ask him if he learned it from somewhere/one in particular.

A different yo-yo player says he's pretty sure he saw it being done by a poi person before 2000, possibly at a US juggling convention (oh what irony that would be..heh).

There might not be any way to really track the exact roots of it at this point. Not that it matters much in the end, though it is kind of nice to know for historical purposes.

Shawn


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Posted:HUWUZZAHYPERLOOP?

Fascinating Fact

Chief Sitting Bull was originally named "Jumping Badger."

Among some American Indian tribes, it was customary to give newborn males temporary names. The names were changed later, as the boys developed character and showed courage in manhood.

If the chinese made them up thousands of years ago and locked them away in the shaolin sock drawer does that mean my spork is smaller? and does load capacity effect the killing properties of abovementioned eating utensil/disembowlment apparatus? will we ever know?


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Posted:"disembowlment" apparatus!
now THAT'S a funny typo.


-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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Posted:I bring tragic news.

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Mary's potatoes have grown to astronomical sized proportions.



Here is a picture taken not moments ago:


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It was in fact taken in 1999, as you can clearly see.



Dr. Masaru Emoto estimates that if the potatoes continue to grow at this rate, they will cover all of south west Melton Mobray by the year 3000.



Flee now. Run for your lives. The potatoes are coming.....




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Posted:*bump* as I'm on a mission to rate some threads

Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant

Like sex, I'm much more interesting in real life than online.

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Posted:so someone can send me links or videos of "HYPERLOOP",i don't know whay it means , and i wanna learn it!!

IF YOU WANT TO TOUCH THE SKY . . . . . .
FUCK A DUCK AND TRY TO FLY !

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Posted:Start with the first page of this discussion and you find a lot smile,
light,
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Posted:any body got any advice on me getting my hyperloops to do more than 3 beats cos they just seem to get tangled up after that or just come apart as they should but too early

UCOF "evolution: Poi -> stick -> hoops -> devil stick -> juggling club -> juggling ball -> crayons."

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Posted:
With Weave Hyperloop in Buzzsaw you can do as mcuh circles as you wish. With Butterfly Hyperloop Wall plane as well.

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Posted:Ahem...



taken from here



Written by: simian
If you want to discuss how to do tangles then GO TO ONE OF THE LINKS



this thread is for USELESS SILLY CHAT ubbloco





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Posted:good spankin jon!

putting useful knowledge in this thread is as pointless as a porcupine with a crew cut

for it will be lost in the ether

just like hunter s thompson

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"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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Posted:*glumph*

"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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Posted:bah.. hunter isnt lost.. you jsut havent taken the right trip to find him.. wink

More useless information courtesy of Rev...
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Posted:I found him! He was over there, gleaning badgers the hard way.
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Posted:*wonders if its possible to buy silliness jump cables*



There used to be life in this here thread.



It had funny bits, and silliness, and yet, didnt

umm


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shen shui
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Posted:sometimes the best parts of life happen when there is noone there to voice them.

those that know, dont say. those that say, dont know.

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UCOF
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Posted:umm

Examples?


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Posted:(eaten being was bandwidth their noticed owners the after changed been now have thread this in contained pictures the of lots how like I)



ubbcrying



?examples no...No


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shen shui
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Posted:thats the whole point, though, really, you know?



the best parts generally are unable to be voiced.. explained.. in so defining is the essense of what you're attempting to describe, lost.



smile



(your words were funny smile )


those that know, dont say. those that say, dont know.

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