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Durbs
Durbs

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Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
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Posted:Originally I was going to call this thread "Pointless Moves" but this isn't accurate as I guess learning any move improves your dexterity and opens up new possibilities.

But...
This is just a list of moves that I think (and I don't think I'm alone) have no appeal to non-spinning on-lookers.
This came about after I'd spent a while learning various moves, showed them to my mum or some other non-spinner only for them to go "It doens't look any different" mad smile or even worse "What? What are you doing different?"

Ultimately, as Poi and Staff are a "performance art" (or so the rumours go) are these worth learning? Half the time they don't feel nice or flow...

Some of the ones I've found this to be the case with are:

# 7 beat (upwards) Weaves - Especially with fire/lights i.e. in the dark when you can't see your arms

# Fish-tails - Don't look anything special to non-spinners

# Hyperloops & Airwraps - I (personally) think they are often go un-noticed by the casual observer and are a bit of a catch 22. If they're done perfectly they don't really show up, if done messily they look like a recovered tangle umm

Anyone got any others or want to shoot me down for damning their favourite move? smile


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Durbs
Durbs

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Posted:Right, we've got that sorted out then smile

Now - lets bash out the pros and cons of vegetarianism wink


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coleman
coleman

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Posted:and if i remember correctly we never did reach a satisfactory conclusion on the fire vs glow debate... wink

ubbangel


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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MillenniuM
MillenniuM

Hyperloops suck

Member Since: 10th Jul 2003
Total posts: 595
Posted:Fire's morer betterer. I eat vegetarians for breakfast. And ham. Lots of ham.

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Durbs
Durbs

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Total posts: 5688
Posted:Does anyone know how to make different coloured flames?
ubblove


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Bird
Bird

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Location: Cornwall
Member Since: 25th Aug 2003
Total posts: 6086
Posted:What about music??

What do you guys listen to when spinning?

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NYC
NYC

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Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Sparkly poi.

Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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TheWibbler
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Posted:ubbtickled Glow for Show ~ Socks for a Pro ubbtickled

Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.

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NYC
NYC

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Posted:If by "Pro" you mean someone who's NOT a professional then, yes... glow for show, socks for a pro.

Cuz I don't think you'd get as many gigs if you spun socks. And therefore wouldn't be able to support yourself by being a professional sock spinner. And therefore wouldn't be a pro.

Fire's way prettier. I mean have you ever just snuggled up with a loved one with hot cocoa and watched a large sock? Have you ever seen a croud gasp in disbelief as some guy drove his motorcycle through a hoop of socks? Ever have a girl at a bar pull out a cigarette, turn to you and ask for a sock?

And Nobody drives 6 hours into the Nevada desert to see Sockman.

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Lurch
Lurch

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Posted:ubbloco I'm hoping you were drunk when you wrote that...

#homeofpoi -- irc.newnet.net Come talk to us we're bored frown

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TheWibbler
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Posted:Lighten up poiple...



and NYC, I've driven to Black Rock City quite a few Times, and many people have seen me spin my socks there, takes me a lot longer than 6 hours though, more like 48 ~ I live near london. But I guess you're right, my socks would have looked outta place during The Burn, man that was fun wink



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DeepSoulSheep
DeepSoulSheep

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Posted:My socks glow, so in your face! tongue

I win! biggrin


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simian
simian

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Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted:A scientitian told me that fire is just the rapid socks-idation of a heated material anyway tongue

"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

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arashi
arashi

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Location: austin,tx
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Posted:i have glowing socks that i light on fire.
on my feet.
and then i do breakdance backspins.

BOOOOYAAAAAAA!!!!!! mad mad mad
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coleman
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Posted:eek

so would that be more a performance move or a tech move...? ubblol


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i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
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MillenniuM
MillenniuM

Hyperloops suck

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Total posts: 595
Posted:I was thinking idiotic move ubblol

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TheWibbler
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Posted:


Technormance Vs Performical




Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.

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arashi
arashi

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Posted:umm okay i'm throwing a wrench in this thread. it's silly! i mean aside from setting your socks on fire. i know you veteran/ more intermediate guys are saying "BOTH" but, really, when it comes down to it, why even draw a line? i can only think of two moves that i know that i wouldn't perform with, because they are several technical techniques put together, like the 9-10 beat weaves. actually i could even see doing those, nevermind. (i just haven't, i have better stuff) audience not understanding hyperloops, in a show, they're just little circles, are you kiddin? please tell me you are. for fucks sake, if you fancy you are a performer, then you darn well better be creative enough to come up with an imaginative way to TEACH the audience how to understand! and i don't mean by saying, "look, the strings aren't tangling!" not that i doubt any of your abilities... here i am setting myself up for some competition, as an intermediate performer. giving away methods. come on guys, push me to work harder! cause as it is, i'm relaxing in the hot tub for a while tongue ubblol and i heard those things make you sterile ubbtickled

your _job_ as a performer is to make the audience understand the technicality of your moves in a performance. don't just get up there and dance, have a message, a conversation! you should be able to dance your way into and out of any move in such a way that the audience gets it, you retain your performance continuity, and it looks flawless technically. no "move" is too technical if you set it up right.
knows, hopes, you know this already and is just feeling a bit cocky... somebody slap me spank kiss


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-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
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Dragon7
Dragon7

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Posted:I only have one thing to say,

"It's not what you do... its how you do it"


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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
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Posted:happily arashi spank specially for saying the same thing in a diffrent way. Now tell me what a dragons tounge is dammit!

and a kiss for dragon for saying it perfecty.

T wave


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arashi
arashi

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Posted:nx? see that search button at the top? look up posts by me. umm
oh and thanks for the spanking. confused though, underneath my sarcastic cocky posturing i thought there was a point that hadn't been made yet confused


-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:so, basically, your saying "what, you can be bothered to check through each of my 1500 posts?" umm wink besides the search stops after 300 matches.

give us a hint mate! besides the search turned up exactly zero records on the new site, and only three in the old, and none of them mention it.

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coleman
coleman

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Posted:a hint

kiss


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:riiiight!

thanks, whod have thought there was an apostophie in dragon's tongue! ubblol

bad spelling cripples me again....

I can do that!

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coleman
coleman

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Posted:but can you do this...?

wink hug


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:yup.

ill show you tuesday. wink

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