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Pele
Pele

the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:Unfortunately, more often than not lately when I come across a fabric I wish to make a costume from it is not cotton, or it is a cotton blend. I am tired of having to find the perfect cotton to go underneath my cloth. As a result I have been looking into fire retardents for my costumes.I have found references, info sheets and such on three different brands, one is highly recommended and used by many drapery/apholstry places.They are:Flameguard 80 (the highest recommended one)Pyroguard SRFBioFax 2000Does anyone have information where I can purchase some of this stuff? I searched and searched and found only references (except for BioFax, which took me to a biology site
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). I know one group in Aus uses it, but I am uncertain even where to look to order some there, or if it can be shipped into the US, which is important. I have a friend who works at a textile shoppe checking into it for me but he is weilding very little in the way of results and fire marshall's think I am crazy. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.Thanks!------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...http://www.pyromorph.com


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Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
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"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK

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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:ooops, thought it said fire retareded ;P

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Pele'sWhippingBoy
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Location: Rochester, NY, USA
Member Since: 19th Jun 2001
Total posts: 442
Posted:This sounds like a "Technical Discussion."
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------------------FYI: I am not Pele. If you wish to reply to me and use a short version of my name, use: PWB."Those who can, do. Those who can't, critique"Pyromorph.com - Let the fire change you


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Maximus
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Location: Upland, CA., USA
Member Since: 13th Dec 2001
Total posts: 250
Posted:I think I posted this deep in another thread, but there is a do-it-yourself alternative. I learnt how to make homemade fire retardent from Constance Atwater:"It is a simple matter to flameproof both costume and hair, and many teachers insist on this protection. An easy-to-prepare solution is made by dissolving nine ounces of borax and four ounces of boric acid in one gallon of hot water. Fill a sprayer with this mixture and spray both sides of the uniform fabric and also your hair. This is a recognized preparation., it will not stain, and it has no harmful effects on the hair or fabric. The spray treatment should be repeated prior to each performance."Maximus

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Pele
Pele

the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:I remember that Maximus but then with further research we found that boric acid is toxic to wear and burn, and that borax is flammable. Many of us said we wouldn't use it. Wasn't it in the starch for a fire retardant thread?Anyway, PWB, you are so going to get a lashing!
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It's not technical. I am not asking how to's or anything technically based. Just if anyone heard of it.We had a Fire Marshall who was flipping out because I was wearing cloth (cotton). I wanted to get some of this as well because I think it would help sate the Fire Monsters.
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From the sounds of it, no one has heard of these things. *sigh*------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...http://www.pyromorph.com


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Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK

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melissa
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Location: madagascar
Member Since: 1st Jun 2001
Total posts: 156
Posted:try searching/calling a theatrical supply company. they sould have something available.

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Ignis Devoco
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Location: Prato, Italy
Member Since: 14th Dec 2000
Total posts: 67
Posted:We get our flame retardant spray from the local safety and supply store..Do you have one of those there??

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Maximus
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Location: Upland, CA., USA
Member Since: 13th Dec 2001
Total posts: 250
Posted:Sorry about the repeat posting. I missed the subsequent discussion. I, too, am worried about the boric acid in the recipe, and I have never actually tried it. I thought it was an interesting footnote by someone who was teaching fire baton twirling in the sixties--before most of the people here were ever born.Maximus

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