-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
**giggles**
she who sees from up high smiles
Patrick badger king: *they better hope there's never a jihad on stupidity*
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
E pluribus unum, baby.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
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Fuzzy Dice.......................................
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Also, always keep in perspective the magnitide of the outcry. 6 priests from Kentucky isn't an outcry.
I was always scared with my mother's obsession with the good scissors. It made me wonder if there were evil scissors lurking in the house somewhere.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup.
**giggles**
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
wie weit, wie weit noch?
fragst mich, wo wir gewesen sind...
du fehlst hier
Lets steal a spaceship and head for the sun, and shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.
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Pele I don't agree with this foolishness that you need to sacrifice your personal safety, comfort, emotional makeup (Guess what, harassment gets to everyone, no one is immune to it and no one should have to deal with it if they choose not to)
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Just because you believe in something doesn't mean you should have to be put through the wringer to get it.
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I think you are mixing up what you see as plain feer and ignroance for well disguised hate. Most people are to polite to be open about their hate like the KKK, the black panthers, etc etc..
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In no way should gay men have to face violence because of the ideals they hold,
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and running away is far from cowardice. It's about picking your battles. Trying to fight for something in a region deeply entrenched in hatred, fear, ignorance and blind conservatism is IMO not for everyone. Why are you a coward if you want to go someplace else to live your life? Sure no where's is perfect, this stuff exists everywheres. But there is certainly hotspots.
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I gurantee you 100% if I had a boyfriend here I would have to watch my back everywheres I go, Because theres a lot of violent people who would go out of their way to beat me up. Im not talking pick a fight with me, knock me down and kick me a few times. There would probably be atleast two of them, and I gurantee I would probably spend atleast a few days in the hospital.
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Guys don't exactly have the "don't hit a girl" protection women have. and in a lot of areas they don't have protection from the police, and the general populace even encourages gay bashing.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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Of course people's views are changing- they always will, its how the world works. I think I speak for more than just myself when I say I would love to press a button and change these views overnight. But unfortunately this can't be done. So we have to stand up straight, dig our heels in, and stand firm to whatever you are or whatever you believe in. If we don't run away, sometimes our experiences can be a gateway for other people. And this, surely, can only be a good thing.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
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on a funnier note, my gay friend, while watching the rugby, was sitting on the couch, legs apart, with a VB (aussie beer) shouting "faggot" at Wilkinson...occasionally scratching his balls.....god it was funny! you would walk into the room and it just looked so 'typical male watching the rugby', until you actually saw who it was! absolutely HILARIOUS!
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
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a body is but a mode of transportation for the soul, it is the soul we fall in love with...in my eyes it makes no difference in what body that soul may reside...
Im bi sexual, and I love men AND women.. its an either or situation. If Arsns soul was in a female body. I would still be in love with him, as I am in love with his essence and his body is an added bonus...
In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird, now the world is weird and they take prozac to make it normal again.
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Most people reading this are probably thinking that I'm bonkers ("oh, there goes divi again, spouting about her revolution..."), but the queer liberation counterculture has actually been the most effective in securing spaces (like gay bars) and events (like pride days) for the community.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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I don't see marriage as a necessarily oppressive institution. I see marriage as a way of affirming one's love for another person in a way that no other institution can. I think it can be a beautiful thing to speak of one's wife or husband. It means something a lot more than "life partner."
And why you do need marriage to do that? I think the institution of marriage is not what people think it is anymore. It is convenient and a relatively easy to get out of. PWB and I have been together for over 6 years (for the most part, few months off here and there). We refer to each other as "wife" and "husband". Noah and I can be on his insurance. We share a credit card. Both of our names are on a car. He can claim Noah on his taxes. All of the actual legal benefits of marriage, we can do by living together...or even just by dating (as in the credit card and the car). I put him on my will as the guardian of Noah if something happens, and the executor of my (really non-exsistent) estate. In the hospital where family only was admitted, he was there. We are together. Everyone knows it...friends and family. We did not need to go into debt like so many do to prove it, and that is all marriage is today. Hell, if I want to change my last name I can without the marriage certificate. He can even adopt Noah without it.
Marriage used to mean alot more than it really does today. People got married for financial reasons, for practicality and eventually they started marrying for love. Today it is pretty much equated to a public speech stating you love someone, that saps you of lots of money.
PWB and I have decided that if we ever do get married, we are just having a pig roast in a park to sate all those people who keep bothering us about "When are you finally getting married?"
I think if I were serious with a woman my opinion on this might change, though I doubt it. I just think that in this day and age people need to understand what can be achieved without marriage. Friends of mine who are lesbians got "married" (not legally), and they share all the legal benefits of a married life, including having had a party, without the technical approval of the state. To me that is a greater show of dedication.Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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And why you do need marriage to do that?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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So nothing would change other than the terminology, but that way any two people would be able to get married. (I personally believe that marriage should be restricted to couples, but that's another argument).