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Location: Southampton
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2001
Total posts: 382
Posted:1. Q: What percentage of the world's population does the U.S. have?
A: 6%

2. Q: What percentage of the world's wealth does the U.S. have?
A: 50%

3. Q: Which country has the largest oil reserves?
A: Saudi Arabia

4. Q: Which country has the second largest oil reserves?
A: Iraq

5. Q: How much is spent on military budgets a year worldwide?
A: $900+ billion

6. Q: How much of this is spent by the U.S.?
A: 50%

7. Q: What percent of US military spending would ensure the essentials
of life to everyone in the world, according the UN?
A: 10% (that's about$40 billion, the amount of funding initially
fund our retaliatory attack on Afghanistan).

8. Q: How many people have died in wars since World War II?
A: 86 million

9. Q: How long has Iraq had chemical and biological weapons?
A: Since the early 1980's.

10. Q: Did Iraq develop these chemical & biological weapons on their
A: No, the materials and technology were supplied by the US government,
along with Britain and private corporations.

11. Q: Did the US government condemn the Iraqi use of gas warfare
against Iran?
A: No

12. Q: How many people did Saddam Hussein kill using gas in the Kurdish
town of Halabja in 1988?
A: 5,000

13. Q: How many western countries condemned this action at the time?

14. Q: How many gallons of agent Orange did America use in Vietnam?
A: 17million.

15. Q: Are there any proven links between Iraq and September 11th
terrorist attack?
A: No

16. Q: What is the estimated number of civilian casualties in the Gulf
A: 35,000

17. Q: How many casualties did the Iraqi military inflict on the
forces during the Gulf War ?
A: 0

18. Q: How many retreating Iraqi soldiers were buried alive by U.S.
tanks with ploughs mounted on the front?
A: 6,000

19. Q: How many tons of depleted uranium were left in Iraq and Kuwait
after theGulf War?
A: 40 tons

20. Q: What according to the UN was the increase in cancer rates in
between 1991 and 1994?
A: 700%

21. Q: How much of Iraq's military capacity did America claim it had
destroyed in 1991?
A: 80%

22. Q: Is there any proof that Iraq plans to use its weapons for
anything other than deterrence and self defense?
A: No

23. Q: Does Iraq present more of a threat to world peace now than 10
years ago?
A: No

24. Q: How many civilian deaths has the Pentagon predicted in the event
of an attack on Iraq in 2002/3?
A: 10,000

25. Q: What percentage of these will be children?
A:Over 50%

26. Q: How many years has the U.S. engaged in air strikes on Iraq?
A: 11years

27. Q: Was the U.S and the UK at war with Iraq between December 1998
September 1999?
A: No

28. Q: How many pounds of explosives were dropped on Iraq between
December 1998 and September 1999?
A: 20 million

29. Q: How many years ago was UN Resolution 661 introduced, imposing
strict sanctions on Iraq's imports and exports?
A: 12 years

30. Q: What was the child death rate in Iraq in 1989 (per 1,000
A: 38

31. Q: What was the estimated child death rate in Iraq in 1999 (per
A: 131 (that's an increase of345%)

32. Q: How many Iraqis are estimated to have died by October 1999 as a
result of UN sanctions?
A: 1.5 million

33. Q: How many Iraqi children are estimated to have died due to
sanctions since 1997?
A: 750,000

34. Q: Did Saddam order the inspectors out of Iraq?

35. Q: How many inspections were there in November and December 1998?

36. Q: How many of these inspections had problems?

37. Q: Were the weapons inspectors allowed entry to the Ba'ath Party
A: Yes

38. Q: Who said that by December 1998, "Iraq had in fact, been disarmed
to a level unprecedented in modern history."
A: Scott Ritter, UNSCOM chief.

39. Q: In 1998 how much of Iraq's post 1991 capacity to develop weapons
of mass destruction did the UN weapons inspectors claim to have
and dismantled?
A: 90%

40. Q: Is Iraq willing to allow the weapons inspectors back in ?

41. Q: How many UN resolutions did Israel violate by 1992?
A: Over 65

42. Q: How many UN resolutions on Israel did America veto between 1972
and 1990?
A: 30+

44. Q: How many countries are known to have nuclear weapons?
A: 8

45. Q:How many nuclear warheads has Iraq got?
A: 0

46. Q: How many nuclear warheads has US got?
A: over 10,000

47. Q: Which is the only country to use nuclear weapons?
A: the US

48. Q: How many nuclear warheads does Israel have?
A: Over 400

50. Q: Who said, "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about
things that matter"?
A: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr

make you're own interpretations of these facts...


A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words...

Raymund Phule (Fireproof)
Raymund Phule (Fireproof)

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Member Since: 31st Dec 2001
Total posts: 2905
Posted:First off, there is never an Ex-Marine

But you see... It wasnt like they were lined up and stuck in a pit an burreid alive, they had weapons down there, possibly some that could blow up those tanks or whatever.

Look at things from a command point of view:

Should you
A. Risk the lives of your men and seek engagment just to give the Iraqis a more humane death?

B. Seek the fastest way possible to eliminate the threat to your people?

War is an ugly thing and ugly things happen in war. Does this make it right, no, but is the possible cost of doing nothing greater or less than the cost of doing something.

3,000 people died when the WTC fell... how many billions of dollars would it cost to rebuild it? Facter that into your cost of war in Afganistan too. Add all that up and you will see that the cost of doing nothing was.

The US made a grave mistake in letting a country run by crazy twits who wanted nothing more than to opress everyone but their buddies. Look what it cost us!

First people complain that nobody did anything, and now that we are doing something, everyone is complaining. WTF do you want us to do.

Bend over and take it up the ass with no lube? Holy pig skins Batman! Why dont you just coat the thing in 1 grit sandpaper!

If you all are so friggin smart and know how everything should be done, get off your lazy asses and go try to run your damn country.

Shit your just like the litte pricks who think that spinning poi is easy and that they can do it. You have so many damn wonderfull ideas and not a damn one of you are prepared to carry out your idea. Well... other than to join the crowed with your homemade/storebought plaquerds, yep your gonna change the world by screaming your voice into inexistance.

Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"


Member Since: 22nd Dec 2002
Total posts: 531
Posted:quote:Originally posted by Raymund Phule:

First off, there is never an Ex-Marine Sue me

Seriously Ray who pissed in your Cheerios?

I didn't say they mercilessly buried these guys alive.There was a reason why I relayed that they were hiding in trenches.

Everyone flipped out when it was a total fabrication to say that such a thing was done and now that there may be a little truth to the rumor you're gonna flip out and tell me how necessary it was.

How would you feel if something like this had been done to U.S. soldiers?

Personally I don't care.You are absolutely right, war is an ugly business and not for the faint of heart.You can't always play by the rules because the game is that of life or death.I am no one's judge and just because I may not always agree doesn't mean I'd condemn anyone for doing what they feel is the right thing to do.

I was only relaying something I was told by an ex-
oh my bad , non active U.S. Marine.

BTW if you are back to pushing buttons I thought it was kind of humorous to see you've taken up the old moniker and attitude.You're worse than a woman with these mood swings of yours.

Raymund Phule (Fireproof)
Raymund Phule (Fireproof)

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Member Since: 31st Dec 2001
Total posts: 2905
Posted:Hey, as long as there are people out there doing everything in their power to put down my country, you had better believe that I will be there, attitude and all, to cram their words and my fist down their throat.

I am just tired of people thinking that the world and world decisions are easy. It isnt. I doubt that too many people here have ever made a command decision in their life.

By the way, its easy to forgive when something you believe in isnt challenged constantly.

Anyhoo... it is nice to be back

Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"

King Of Bongo
King Of Bongo

Location: Berlin
Member Since: 25th Dec 2002
Total posts: 522

Salinger mate, sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but schoolboys hijacked your thread.
they went and turned it into a
"mine's bigger than yours" (and therefore I'm right) thread sounds like US foreign policy

whatever. woof.

Your life is ending one minute at a time...
So live it.


Member Since: 22nd Dec 2002
Total posts: 531
Posted:quote:Originally posted by Raymund Phule:

By the way, its easy to forgive when something you believe in isnt challenged constantly.Forgiving is something easy to do no matter the circumstances, you just have to have the heart to do it.

No matter how insulting or mean you attempt to be if I were ever to meet you in real life I would still shake your hand and meet you with an open heart and mind.

Peace bro

Raymund Phule (Fireproof)
Raymund Phule (Fireproof)

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Total posts: 2905
Posted:Hehe school boy hehe, aint been there in 5 years hehe funny insult.

Poiaholic, something you must know about me man... I love to argue and though I get hot headed easily I am very different out in the real world. I'm a big dog and my bark is worse than my bite, if I even bite at all.

It is easier to let your emotions flow when you dont have to look at the person, know what I mean?

Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"

Location: Australia
Member Since: 10th May 2002
Total posts: 340
Posted:The whole war thing is very simple really...
1.) people have their own agendas which conflict with other people's agendas.
2.) Sometimes this leads to people killing/hurting/oppressing/manipulating other people to get their own way.
3.) This happens in every country at every level.
4.) No-one can ever understand the hidden agendas of every person involved in today's wars therefore no-one can ever understand who is morally right or wrong. All our perceptions are distorted.

step 1. Throw your self at the ground.
step 2. Miss.


remembers when it was all fields round here
Location: in the works... somewhere...
Member Since: 27th Feb 2003
Total posts: 2790
Posted:Just for the record, here are some things I wouldn't want to see on HoP again...

quote:'...For this piece of filth alone I couldn't give a rat's fat, boil infested hind-end about anything else you've said...' quote:'...given the chance, you would likely recieve a broken nose/chin were you to utter this load of bull in front of me...' quote: '...you hippie protestors don't listen to reason...without something to protest or bitch about, your entire culture is meaningless. You're a bunch of uneducated, pot-smoking sandal-jockies who need haircuts and showers...your lifestyle is simply an excuse to run from the the obstacles in life that you can't handle...'Is this what HoP has become? I know there will always be disagreement but please, there should always be respect.

"I thought you are man, but
you are nice woman.



Raymund Phule (Fireproof)
Raymund Phule (Fireproof)

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Total posts: 2905
Posted:Amazing that none of those quotes came from me! I am sure I have mine out there but wow

By the way, when are you gonna tell me what shard you play on?

Some Jarhead last night: "this dumb a$$ thinks hes fireproof"

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