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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

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Posted:Those who have appeared in the video have been sent copies already (unless I am still awaiting your address).

I just want to thank again all those that participated with sending videos in (over 9 hours total).
Two Platoon, Supafly, David Ivester, Hybrid Performing Arts Team, Craig Cole, Ken Harris, Skunk, Kender, Kirsten Crouse, PK, Noona, Mark Williams, Felix Chen, Kato, Jo Derry, John Smith,
Daniel Tyler, Jacob Lanter, Mitchell Gomez, Anya Huebschle, A.N.T.H.E.L.I.O.N, Peregrine, Samiya, Anisa, Nomad, Code128, Tito, Daniel Furst, Newborn, Draco, Wildfire Entertainment, Nasu Dyami, Brian Gallagher, Cris Fawcette, Shibaki, G.I.L, Elizabeth, Brian, Mark, Jessica, Keith, Ryan, Wesley, Jay, Adi LeeAv, Tom Caine, Shaun Cole, Pozee, Veronica, Cheryl Sturgis, Indigo Teiwes-Cain, Koji Ito, Akiko Endo, Casper, Liam Tempest, Rumplestiltskin (Nathan), Aiden Tempest and Bender the Offender.

And those that helped out with music.
Sista Firewire, DJ NewboRn, The Nomadix, Flick S., Paddy Spear, Eamonn Fevah...

Thanks to Melissa Whitman for letting us use her wonderful picture for the cover.

Thanks to Tim Lucas for editing and duplication.

Thanks to other judges, Diana and Cherry.

Also Cherry (again), 7, Pele and Charles who helped me through the difficult times with their friendship and caring.

Kindest regards to all

Malcolm


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glowshow


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Location: Charlotte, NC, USA

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Posted:YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!

You rock, Malcolm! Now I'm all anxious to get the video! I can't wait!


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[Nx?]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:yo, just sat through the whole thing, lotta lotta poi, comon staffers!

Personally next time Im gonna make shure I gotta nice long clear video, but there you go.

special words to the double chucks and Hurty, and Skunk man, thats really really nice.

Peace

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Cassandra


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Posted:Nix ... you know Skunk from NY ???

YAY .. I ordered it yesterday but have a feeling it won't get to me on time before I leave to Grece next tuesday ... it was my BDAY present to myself ... but will be there when I come back in August i guess...

I CAN'T WAIT to see so many beautiful people in one single tape

Again, And again .. Malcolm, much love and respect to you

Shine on
Cassandra


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bender
GOLD Member since Nov 2001

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Posted:On the subject of music - might i say that as shameless raver, I am a picky B___h about music and was well pleased with the music - quite un-unoriginal!
LOVE the first song - a great tracey way to start a nice video.
A few performance pieces really keep the 'crowd-pleaser' atmosphere aloft!
the production is sooo nice too, with letterboxing applied to conceal video autodating (sorry malcolm!) and superimposed video mayhem! artfully does the firetwirling justice.
Damn i got excited watching it - then again I always have a quickened pulse watching the COL series. I have finally matured past the point whereby I'd nitpick OTHER people 'cus OF COURSE i must be the best twirler in the universe' and realised that deamanding perfection invites similar expeactations on meself. So i enjoy COL so much more and share in the exhiliration of seeing other HoP luverlies strut the stuff that bought us all into contact: FIRE!
TOTAL UNADULTERATED CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE SICK PERFORMERS!
I will name my many children after you all!
('cept 'skunk' - I don't want my children to hate me....)
/scampers off to find some matches

OMG look!! it's Shibaki!
/prostates himeself

[ 18 July 2002, 19:06: Message edited by: Bender_the_Offender ]


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DJ Dantana
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Posted:Oh horrible fate, Oh lackluster reality, WHY!?!?!? I must wait, still....For I liveth on the other side of thy planet.... The earth, that some call round, that mother of life, is she not larger than most but friendlier than some? And so, I sit in boardom and anxiety, ancsiousely awaiting that fatefull package which contains all happiness....and no sorrow. Containing Circles of Fire and Intricate and Chaotic Light, during the day and at night (and techno music BONUS!!!)

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Charles
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Posted:All I can say is...WOW

Totally agree with bender (and that hardly ever happens). The whole look and feel of the COL3 is so professional. No wonder it took forever to get it released Malcolm.

I think it's also a tribute to not only the skills of those shown but it shows how much has been learned about videoing fire and glow as well. Compared to the previous video's, this one is light years ahead in both original content (what you guys sent in) and the way it has been mixed.

Can I ask if the cool special effects were all the result of editing? i.e. the fades and the stop motion and the um...er...Blame-it-on-the-boogie shadowing shots?

Or was some of it supplied on tape?


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Peregrine


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Posted:we (anthelion) had a lot of random special effects on our original tape...and, buh!we didnt send the footage of me doing poi...oh well...
still havnt seen col3 tho, so dont know what footage malcom used. should have asked for a dvd sincei dont have a vcr but hey i can watch it with the guys when it comes...

pere


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Le Skunk


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Location: NYC, New York, USA

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Posted:werd...

thanx for the kind words nix/others (hi cassandra)
it's been quite some time since i've posted here.

wish i had time to nail down a better/more current video with some newer moves, but as it is there are probably a few on there that i should go thru and name when i get a chance...

anyways still anxiously awaiting my very own copy, the NYC mail system is notoriously slow...can't wait to check out everybody else...

peax

Skunk

PS come find me at burning man i will be spending 3.5 weeks(!!!!!) out there this year helping build some art out in BRC if you are planning on getting there early come by and bring some lamp oil (i always get stuck with stinky kerosene and white gas out there) and we'll jam

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Shibaki


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Location: Tampa, Fl

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Posted:i agree with everyone, the video is tops definitely. there is soooo much talent all over it... i kept having to pick my jaw up of the ground, but sometimes my jaw hit the ground so hard it was stuck

i am awed and inspired on many levels by this vid... ahhhhh!!! now im going to go have poi dreams...


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Cassandra


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Posted:Le SKunk is posting on HOP ? Nice to see you post, sweetie and much looking forward to the video but since I've allready seen you in real life, I allready know of your talent

Can't wait ... can't wait ... can someone please blow in my direction for the tape to get there before next tuesday ?

Malcolm... I know you've got to send all the tapes and all that ... BUT promise us you'll take a nice break with Cherry and 7 after that... you must be so tired

shine on
Cassandra


"I want brown bread... no, that is diesel oil..."
"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
"NON !!! La Plume de mon oncle n est pas Bingibangibungi !!!"

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Le Skunk


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Posted:got my copy today...

never mind about naming new moves, it seems about 60% of the good ones never made it to the final video...

lemme just dub the one where i throw the chains thru my legs the 'taint flickinz'...too bad the whole thing couldn't fit in the final video cause i did come up with some good names...i guess i will put the whole thing up on our website when i get a chance (probably not till september...)

oh well.

peax

Skunk
http://www.13378u.org/


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Le Skunk


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Posted:oh yeah almost forgot

allow me to echo some sentiments, congrats malcolm on a nice production, and everybody who sent stuff in...there is much inspiration to be had on that tape...

happy swinging (i don't think people overseas realize the connotation of the word 'twirling' in the us and it's immediate association with cheerleaders)

peax

Skunk

PS cassandra when are you gonna make it back out here again? you gotta stop stealing one of our own for whole summers at a time...


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[Nx?]

Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:oh yeah? what about 'swinging'?

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DJ Dantana
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Posted:don't feel bad, Le Skunk. For COL2 I coreographed a run, it took me an hour to get the first half perfect, so I could just Ad-lib the second half, and the first half it didn't even make it onto the video. There where some cool wrap-switches, too. It's all good though. Maybe it just looks better when you make it up as you go.

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Kender


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Posted:Yes yes yes!! I just want to say that ALL of you absolutely rock! I do wish that I would have spent some time and edited mine before I sent it in, but it is an honor to be included with all of you. Thanks Malcolm for all your hard work! It was worth the wait.

-= Kender =-

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nomad
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

nomad

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Location: Paris, France

Total posts: 356
Posted:Damn.... it seems like the whole US received their video, and still nothing in my mailbox.....



Malcolm, have you sent my copy yet??
It's painful to hear people talk about that video and not see it...

Nomad


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DJ Dantana
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Posted:Well....I saw john's copy last night, it rocked. I loved the contact staff, and the girls, and the fire, and the special effects, and the music. Realy to much to single it all out, so I'll just say....good job everybody! (Thanks for the complement, Nix?) I need to watch it about ten more times before I can absorb all the style in there. I got a little sample, but I need MORE!!!

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bender
GOLD Member since Nov 2001

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 6979
Posted:quote:Originally posted by Le Skunk:
(i don't think people overseas realize the connotation of the word 'twirling' in the us and it's immediate association with cheerleaders)when in HoPland, do as Romans twirl.


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NYC


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Posted:Hey Malcolm,

I don't want to start throwing unwanted critique around too quickly. Should we start a "feedback" thread?

Because I really do have quite a bit to say. I enjoyed some of the performances but was bothered by a few aspects and am wondering if others were too... I'm not the kind to complain all that often but I felt the need to send some constructive critique.

OK, I'll stop playing diplomatic... here goes:

1) The editing seemed a bit arbitrary. I, of course didn't get to see any of the original tapes but, felt that some really amazing stuff was short and some of the more basic stuff was quite long.

2) I gotta say, the slow motion really bugged me. The whole beauty of poi is lost when it's slowed down. It may look better to the untrained eye with effects and such but I'd really like to see what everyone looked like at full speed. I can always slow it down if I want...

Hats off to the HoP posse for being the only people in the world doing this, and I'm looking forward to COL4, 5, 6,...

Nicely done though, and enjoyable to see some spinners...

PS: WHERE WERE ALL THE CRAP TALKERS THAT CLOG UP THIS BOARD WITH HOW GOOD THEY ARE?! I'm sure we'll be getting lots of excuses... (Had to be said! And no, I didn't send in cuz I dont talk no crap )


Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]

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DJ Dantana
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Posted:Everybody is entitled to their own opinion....

actually, I REALY liked the slow motion, and especialy the time lapse. It is amazing how good you can make a three beat weave look, with a little time lapse and some cool music, and a funky camera angle. And MY VCR doesn't do good slow motion, so I am glad there was some slow-mo in there, especial my part, cause I watched it 20 times at home (the staff part) and I was still having trouble seeing exactly what I was doing, AND I DID IT!!! I don't know if that is good or bad... Maybe when the dvd stuff comes out we can all slow mo at will. But remember, COL is an artistic expresion, We are artists, who send our stuff to another artist (Malcolm) who does a Jimmy hendrix to it (upside down backwards and twisted) and out comes something totaly different than a simple compolation. Slow motion could certainly be overused, but I don't belive it was. IMO


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flash fire
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flash fire

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Posted:Hey NYC - long time

ummmm, erm, *cough* I didn't hand in a tape cos my dog ate it just after I had spilled a cup of coffee all over it, which was unfortunately just after some magnetic force unbeknownst to me actually erased my entire performance...

The sick wraps (with double staves mind you) had to be seen to be believed and I really do kick a whole lotta arse.

or -

ummmm, erm - didn't hand in tape cos I got made redundant, broke up with my partner of 7 years, couldn't find a new job and stuff... blah blah blah.

Hang on!!! I never talked shit to start with!

Please disregard.



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DJ Dantana
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Posted:hey there flash, good to see you posting! Bummer about your partner .... I know this great guy that's single, and thinks your hot...

Goes by the name of Jedi White


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bender
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Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Posted:sick wraps? you rock! they the single biggest reason why doubles are my favourite normal firetoy! we soooo have to swap moves at the solar eclipse!!!!!! omg omg omg omg omg! nobody mentions double wraps 'ere! (i hav emet like 1 person in real life who specialises in double wraps!!)

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Charles
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Charles

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Posted:So am I a nobody then, Bender?

Not that I've been doing them for long, but I'm kinda proud of my continous neckwrap wirh doubles (its easier than it looks). the single get's a bit boring now.

It's also fun to do an arm wrap ending in a forearm throw, and um... er... that's about it. Maybe I better look at doing more wraps with my doubles.

Cheers


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bender
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Posted:fire staff deities do not figure into it, cus it's assumed knowledge that the Inferno is mad at all that is doubles! my fave wrap (i do it fast n smooth cus i love it!) is a 6 wrap combo along both legs, bum, waist n neck in both planes ending in a btl butterfly. it's my doubles signature i cannot be bothered to begin explaining her, video to follow. i love double wraps so much that single staff wraps feels silly heaven knows how much practice is necessary to perform double wraps with staves of YOUR dimensions!
/prostates himself and mutter something about P.O.O....


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Charles
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Charles

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Posted:Hardly a diety, I thought i was the old goody-two-shoes safety bunny who shuffles around the site telling youngsters not to run with scissors!

Honestly, my wraps with doubles do need a lot more work.

Can I ask if you are talking simultaneous doubles (which i haven't yet achieved) or doing a single wrap while sinning th eother staff somwhere else...?


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DJ Dantana
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Posted:I was just thinking....I have already watched COL3 at least three times, in the last few days. I have watched COL2 more times than I can count....how many "MOVIES" can be watched like that? I usualy can't stand to watch a movie (even my favorite ones) more than once in a week or a month...even the first time I see tham, I usualy don't want to see them again very soon. So...what does that tell you about the COLs??? Does that mean they rock even more than the best movies?

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Mineiro


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Posted:bender you cheeky monkey i think you will find more double wrapsters out there than you think.... but i will not get into argument here....*sits fuming at lack of time to produce video(what happens when you help organise 1 fire festival, then try to choreograph a show for glastonbury)* HOWEVER new te POOKa website up at some point in the next month or so, so should be some stuff on there, we have 3 mad double staffers in the group, so feast your eyes(soon, i promise...)
still looking forward to seeing COL3, my visa was denied for no reason *sob* so no copy for me...but nix will be here soon with his.

see y'all soon...ps if anyone hears from josh tell him to PM me, can't wait to meet him + kat

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Newborn


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Posted:I must say a big thx and hat off to all the ppl who featured in the video.
There is a lot of fab talent out there and i wish you all the best for the future.
Also was impressed that 4 of my tunes were on the video which made it really special to see some great poi'yers doing there stuff to my music which was great!
Myself and draco was though slightly dissapointed by the part of video which contained Us which although i fully understand that i did send our video in late so can't complain coz at least were on it.
Though it was recorded like 6 months ago and is in no comparison to our skills now. So therefore myself and Draco are disapointed of the clip of ourselves in the video as it shows us to be quite bluntly rather crap in comparison to all the other great talent on the video. Plus there was better stuff of us on the video we sent but hey well at least we are on there
I was also quite confused for how pretty much everyone was spinning fire like a crazy speed freak! This took me a couple of views to see that most of the videos were speeded up;
because if you spun fire at that high velocity it would go out.
This didnt bother me as such and i think it was so more footage could be fitted on the tape so tis understandable and not a moan.
Overall i was impressed with the video and thx to malcolm and the rest of the team that made it possible.
Me and draco shall soon be working on a video to represent our current skil level as so u don't all think that were completely shite lol!!!
thx
Newborn a.k.a Aidan

[ 29 July 2002, 06:49: Message edited by: Newborn ]


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Malcolm
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Malcolm

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Posted:quote:Originally posted by Newborn:
I was also quite confused for how pretty much everyone was spinning fire like a crazy speed freak! This took me a couple of views to see that most of the videos were speeded up;
because if you spun fire at that high velocity it would go out.
Newborn, Sorry about your part in the video, it was a mad job getting you into it. None of the videos were speed up. It does look that way in some of the videos however they are at normal speed.

I am going to make a special form for COL4 whereas the person entering the video will select which part of their video (using times/frames codes) is to be used. It is hard work for us to pick out peoples favourites at times. Some people have sent us 4+hrs of videos as an entry in the past. I am also making a few other changes to make things easier and better.

BTW Your music is great. You are very tallented.

Much respect

Malcolm


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