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DJ Dantana
BRONZE Member since Aug 2001

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Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA

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Posted:Did you know you can do a "thread the needle" with double staff?

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Rozi
SILVER Member since Jan 2002

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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia

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Posted:Sounds like you are itchin' to tell us Go on...

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What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...

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bluecat


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Posted:posted a minor description of this in weave to butterfly thread only a day or two ago... the number of beats just depends on the number of fingerspins/hand wraps you are prepared to do... and there is one btbt also, but i will wait til its a bit more solid....
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Posted:and just wait til you get on to the reverse armwrap 4 beat ttn....

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DJ Dantana
BRONZE Member since Aug 2001

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Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA

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Posted:I just saw that one with poi a few days ago (morning coffee video. very wicked looking.

I didn't see it in the other thread, but since it was titled butterfly to weave I didn't think to look there.


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:blue might just be the one doing it in the video dude.

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Mineiro


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Posted:no its a totally different one with staff and has to be seen to be beleived...and its not on video yet...sorry
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DJ Dantana
BRONZE Member since Aug 2001

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Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA

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Posted:shamefull!

I tell you what, if you let me slide for not having the "sew the needle" movie posted yet, i'll let you slide on the "reverse arm wrap 4 beat ttn"....for now

[ 19. February 2003, 10:56: Message edited by: santanatwo ]


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bluecat


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Posted:sounds good.

but i have't practised mine for about a year....give me a week or three please

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Stone
GOLD Member since Jun 2001

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Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 2830
Posted:Actually, I don't do doubles sanatana new, but I had a go with single staff and ended up in some kind of double rotor thingy

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Analemma


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Posted:There seem to be 2 different versions for the 2 beat TTN. You can either lead with the right hand or with the left hand. Nice variations imo. Same theory applies to Poi btw smile

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bluecat


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Posted:mwaaargh that was a serious bump.

grr...


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Analemma


Analemma

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Posted:?!?

Staff spinners have quite a strange language . . .

grmbl to you too,

we come in peace

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Valura
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

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Location: Brisbane, Australia

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Posted:he means thats this is one old thread dude.

TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

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Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kin...

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Posted:yeah! you tell him!!

i think you'll find andy that rather than starting a new thread on ttn with staffs you should have first done a search and seen if there was an old one on the subject and added your thoughts to that...

hold on, i'm obviously confused - what's the right thing to do again?!!??

maybe i should just shut up and jump on that grumpyness bandwagon:

*growl*

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seriously, what's all this about 'leading' in a regular 2bt ttn andy?

surely you can stop/start in whichever of the 2 butterfly positions that you are changing between so i don't understand how you recognise which hand is in the lead?


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Nate
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

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Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England

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Posted:tried to learn this move, didnt get very far and carried on trying to do doubles matrix hahahaha

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Analemma


Analemma

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Posted:thx smile

Lets go . . . . some Poitheory applied to staff eek

Play Doublestaff Butterflies with the thumbends always in the front and the pinkyends always bhb.
When you play TTN you alternate: right hand end on top -> left hand end on top.
But since the Pinkyend is half a beat late you can alternate the change of the bhb Topend too.

L: Lefthand front on top
l: lefthand bhb on top
R: Righthand fron on top
r: righthand bhb on top

So you can play:
L l R r L l R r L l ....
L r R l L r R l L r ....

ubbidea

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Chumpy
BRONZE Member since Dec 2004

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Location: In between you and that spliff...

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Posted:It still sounds blooming hard in my opinion!!!


I shan't be trying that one for a while!


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Nate
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

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Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England

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Posted:i agree with chumpy, its too hard....
by any chance does someone live near exeter that can do this move?


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bluecat


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Posted:wasn't being grumpy.

*sulk*

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(sorry andy if you thought i was, i was just surprised biggrin )


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MikeIcon
GOLD Member since Mar 2003

MikeIcon

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Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA

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Posted:I found another TTNish type move with double staves but its sort of different than what everyone is used to seeing and thinks of when they hear the term.

First off, I wanna say that this is probably my first post in the staff section and I dont follow it so forgive me if this is a dumb idea and/or already has a name. All my staff work was taught to myself and Im not really that great IMO, but anyway...

I was playing with a few new (to me) concepts with my short doubles in the past week or so, trying to see what you can do with staff without actually spinning them much. Found a few cool little maneuvers that resemble liquid moves and utilize isolations to an extent. One of these moves are as follows:

-I think you need rather short staves to do this so probably shouldnt try it with yer 5+ footers!

- Start with both staves in front of you, horizontal, gripping them with your palms down.
- "Slide" the staves sideways crossing your arms with your right arm on top.
- Once your right hand staff has cleared your left arm, spin them half a rotation clockwise so your palms are now facing upwards and slide it back to uncross.
- When your hands get back to starting position, turn them another half rotation counter clockwise so your palms are facing down again.
- Repeat with the opposite arm crossing on top.

I dunno what it is but it looks pretty cool when I do it in my mirror smile Figured Id give this old thread a new little kick perhaps to calm the blue grump wink


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