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Mineiro


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Location: Edinburgh

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Posted:been playing with big doubles - 1.5m fully wicked and am as yet unable to keep going thru a full burn cause the drag on them is unbeleivable. that combined with the already silly weight is enough to nearly kill me....
bit worried cause i went thru this with my(already heavier than most) normal doubles and can now just about do a 10 minute burn with them... but all over again?

anyone else with this problem? and is there anything to be done except keep practising? the major problem with that is the flame drag plays such a large part in it that unlit really makes no sense.....

but wait til you see what they look like..

so nice that i have been going off contact(sorry glass, nix etc)....

love
R


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bender
GOLD Member since Nov 2001

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 6979
Posted:what u need my friend, is some american chai!

Laugh Often, Smile Much, Post lolcats Always

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[Nx?]
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both

Total posts: 3749
Posted:or a whole heapa gurrana?

i been thinking about this too, because a burn of my short, light small wicked doubles kills me too.

I think training is the answer, firstly some long twich muscluar training, where weights are lifted 10 secunds up and ten seconds down, this promotes the sort of muscle fibers used for endurance, and could help, as for specific execises, im not so shure, see what part of your arms hurts most and work on them (forearms and shoulders for me)

The second is cardio-vascular training, so that your overall level of fitness is higher and you get you 'second wind' quicker. second wind is where the body swaps over from using chemical energy stored in the muscles to energy gained from oxygen and fat, again prolonging endurance. seond wind also clears the lactic acid from the muscles much better, as lactic acid is the by-product of the chemical energy system. For this I would recomend rowing as it uses the arms and is a very high intesity cardio-vascular workout. That and swimming (breast stroke?).

yeah, more work i think. maybe get yourself some really heavy practice doubles and train with them, not play but a determined and prolounged workout.

thats about it i think.

Love

N


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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both

Total posts: 3749
Posted:Oh yeah, i forgot....

YOU TRAITOROUS SCUM!

"more than contact", HA! <shakes head and wanders off, wondering how he can ever like Minero again>

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Mineiro


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Location: Edinburgh

Total posts: 262
Posted:MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
wondered how long that would take you....


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jonathan


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Location: new zealand

Total posts: 210
Posted:lots of different sorts of press ups are always good value for getting stronger. but make sure and stretch to keep those muscles flexi.
maybe if you thought about how your feet are moving while your doing it you might get a more economical sort of motion going?


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Posted:Minero dosnt move his feet, ever. Hes scared he'll fall over.

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Charles
BRONZE Member since Jun 2001

Charles

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Location: Auckland

Total posts: 3989
Posted:I wen through this when I started getting into doubles. I've never used anything shorter than 1.4 metres for performing, and now use doublewicked staffs for my double routines.

It will take a while to build up the muscles...but it does happen eventually.

Even now, though, If I'm out of practice for a week or so, it takes a short while before I can do a full half hour set...

"it won't happen overnight, but it will happen" -


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Doc Lightning
GOLD Member since May 2001

Doc Lightning

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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA

Total posts: 13920
Posted:quote:Originally posted by Nix?:

The second is cardio-vascular training, so that your overall level of fitness is higher and you get you 'second wind' quicker. second wind is where the body swaps over from using chemical energy stored in the muscles to energy gained from oxygen and fat, again prolonging endurance. seond wind also clears the lactic acid from the muscles much better, as lactic acid is the by-product of the chemical energy system. For this I would recomend rowing as it uses the arms and is a very high intesity cardio-vascular workout. That and swimming (breast stroke?).
I swim. I'm a breastroker, in fact. But swimming is pretty crummy exercise unless you're good at it. However, with some practice, you can get good at it. And then it's the best workout you'll find. But learn how to do all four strokes, or at least freestyle, breastroke, and backstroke (butterfly is optional, but if you can do it it means you're in good shape and it speaks to your coordination).

The best way to get good quickly? Find a good swimmer and borrow them for about 30 minutes to teach you technique.


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master sodium


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Location: carson city, nevada

Total posts: 536
Posted:I say get some tails to attach to the wicks, so you can practice using them with the drag factor incorporated.

you can't have a war against terrorism because war IS terrorism.it's not about worshipping fire. its about making the fire want to worship you.

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UCOF
SILVER Member since Apr 2002

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Posted:Cant you buy tails for the heads somewhere on HOP?

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Mineiro


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Location: Edinburgh

Total posts: 262
Posted:eeeerrrm. the drag from the flames is so big i would need flags attached(as Nix will attest).... and yes i have some of those(made on holiday which is being unexpectedly lengthened... )

oooohhh.
AND
a week off staff and i love it again... contact and all...and have some new silliness to share when on a lengthier computer link..
X
R


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Cantus
SILVER Member since Jul 2001

Cantus

Tantamount to fatuity
Location: Down the road

Total posts: 15965
Posted:Tempest (Liam - as seen on COL3 amongst his brothers) has some killer wicks on his staffs. Cathedral heads with extra kevlar wrapped round them to trap air in and intensify the burn.

Those puppies just never go out. Couple that with the weight of the staff and that's one mega work out.

Only span one once. Made me glad of my teeny heads.

I sometimes train with an extremely heavy staff - for endurance purposes - I have two for this. heavyish, slightly mishapen wooden thingvery heavy steel tube approx 9ft in lengthHard to spin but then it makes any spinning i do with normal staffs so much easier.

Plus it tones my delts nicely


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"...like a rabbit caught in a lighthouse?" - Chellybean

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