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NYC


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Posted:I recently have been trying out FLAG twirling. What a cool alternative for poi! For those of you not in the know, flag twirling is when you twirl large pieces of fabric, no actual flagpole... you've probably seen cheezy half-time shows with them and such.It's like poi on crack! Some of the moves are very similar and some are totally impossible! Also, you can't do the same move twice in a row because the flags will twist so you need to immidiately "undo" the move you did (that is, if you do a rotation on your right side you need to do the exact rotation on your left... no 3+ beat weaves!)It's ALL about figure 8s, corkscrews, and windmills. CRAZY! Try it if you get the chance, you'll remember what it was like to be a poi newbie again! It's ALL about the wrist and not much about the arm motion and the weight extend from your thumbs rather than from your fingers.It seems to be influencing my poi style in a positive way, it's much easier to dance and move about. Also ZERO pain for messing up factor. Actually, it's impossible to really mess up as you cant tangle or hit yourself, you just keep going and the flags follow.Just wanted to share. Anyone know any flag sites? I'm certainly not ditching poi in the least, I think this will make me a much better poier in the future...

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Malcolm
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Malcolm

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Posted:See Flags. I agree they are very cool. I made my own flags and they look great in the sun.

"May your balls always burn"

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Frenzie
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Posted:And they rock when your friend is twirling them and you stand next to them when its hot *grin*------------------ - Industrial design knows of no article more useful than the milk crate -http://wickeffect.cjb.net

- Industrial design knows of no article more useful than the milk crate -

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Knagi


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Posted:I was gonna make a set till I realized they are mostly for guys who don't like girls. Has anyone come up with a flag design to counter this side effect and to attract girls?

We are all in the cosmic movie. That means the day you die you watch your whole life repeating for eternity. So you'd better have some good things happen in there and have a fitting climax. --Jim MorrisonIt's going to come from a direction you didn't predict at a moment of chaos which you didn't see coming. -- NYC

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Malcolm
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Malcolm

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Posted:Well Cherry, my soon to be wife, thinks I look sexy twirling flags.Maybe it depends on the way you swing them around.

"May your balls always burn"

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Maelstrom


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Posted:Knagi didn't we try to address this, this passed weekend? During the day flags would work well as an ice breaker in any situation, espiecally at Nelson's! Or you'll have to face facts......you like guys Knagi.
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(sorry I don't know how to make the wicking joke guy) Malcon, what kind of matterial and design did you use? I realy haven't seen any that I like.[This message has been edited by Maelstrom (edited 04 October 2001).]


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Malcolm
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Malcolm

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Posted:Maelstrom,I used rip stop nylon in the end as it is much easier to fold over and sew. Made a rectangle and folded over two adjacent edges with some curtain lead weight in it. I then put a handle and swivel in the other corner, so I can do more continuous butterfly's etcRegardsMalcolm

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Cassandra


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Posted:I am sorry if I sound really off topic, but are you serious Knagi or is it a joke (what you say about flags basically being for gays hence gays being woossy ?) Sorry to break the nice atmosphere here especially if you did not mean this seriously Knagi but these jokes can have more weight and connotation than you think sometimes...As Desproges said (French stand up comedian) you can laugh about everything, but not with everyone...Shine on Cassandra, the "good atmosphere breaker"

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Posted:For some reason my attempt to make cool looking Flags failed. I borrowed a stranger's in a club and they flowed well, but my own just seem to flop.Malcolm, why don't you sell Flags? I'd buy a set on day one!

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NYC


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Posted:Knagi, OK I'm the only straight one of my friends who twirls flags... but hey, someone has to be a pioneer, right! Heterosexual pride!
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Knagi


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Posted:It's not a joke.. You dunno how long I thought of a nice way of saying it. Sorry if I offended anyone but it's right here in black and white. http://www.cforcesf.com/
What kind of designs have you guys put on your flags. Or are they just solid color. I'd be more likey to make banners. Maybe something like the Dragon banner from wheel of time. Anyone have any other ideas? How long can a banner be befor it's impossiable to twirl? 8 9 feet?And Mealstrom you missed what happened saturday night after you passed out and I went drum circle hunting solo. Ended up slipping and falling on my face in some wet grass with double wicks and got lots of sympaty.
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Maybe I need to fall over more often :P------------------We are all in the cosmic movie. That means the day you die you watch your whole life repeating for eternity. So you'd better have some good things happen in there and have a fitting climax. --Jim MorrisonMost Memerable crowd saying "Hey look that dude's gonna set himself on fire again!"[This message has been edited by Knagi (edited 05 October 2001).]


We are all in the cosmic movie. That means the day you die you watch your whole life repeating for eternity. So you'd better have some good things happen in there and have a fitting climax. --Jim MorrisonIt's going to come from a direction you didn't predict at a moment of chaos which you didn't see coming. -- NYC

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Posted:I wasn't joking either. It is quite popular among the gay community. Though, I am comfortable enough with myself to be able to twirl flags with other men without wanting to have sex with them. Call me crazy.

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Cassandra


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Posted:OK, so I did not know that flags are common in the USA gay community so to me it just sounded like the usual stupid joke about more "feminine" activities being only for "fags" and I truly dislike this kind of humor... unless it is used among most of my gay friends... again... you can laugh about everything, but not with everyone... IMHOall rightmy apology for a misunderstanding then ...
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oh.. and NYC ? ::cassandra calling:: : "CRAZY" !!!!!
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shine onCassandra[This message has been edited by cassandra (edited 05 October 2001).][This message has been edited by cassandra (edited 05 October 2001).]


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"So I was raised in Europe, where History comes from ..."
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Blackbird


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Posted:could you have poi... like... hrr...ok, basically, semicircular pieces of cloth, or like half torus shapes, attached to poichains... you'd need a really heavy weight at the end... basically its just poi with huge, thick trails... it'd be rather neat if oyu got really big ones.. and you could do multiple beat stuff (if very slowly...) when you did a weave it would look like a cirle... hmm...

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Posted:Also guys, remember that it originated in the homosexual community...all that means is that it originated there. I've started flagging and love it. If you still are upset about the whole homosexual thing, just think of yourself as a pioneer...bringing the art to different communities.~As a tip to people who have trouble flagging...grab the flag on the shorter side (if there is one), not on the edge. If you leave a few inches between the edge and your hand, it allows the flag to fan out. It took me a while to figure this out...and has made a world of difference.

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Sabine
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Posted:Morning Gang,Actally, flagging goes back as far as the 16th Century. In Greece, it's considered an art form no matter who does it. Just my .02 cents worth.Sabine

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Malcolm
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Posted:Why do I not sell flags?I would like to. But I am not sure which is the best design yet. I quite like the curvy non-rectangular ones myself. The materials are very hard to sew and the sewing group have had huge difficulty getting a nice edge.One day I hope we will have some for sale

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Frenzie
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Posted:Hmm, im with u Cassandra, with a prehistoric attitude like that Knagi, im surprised you'd attract girls at all.... IMHO------------------ - Industrial design knows of no article more useful than the milk crate -http://wickeffect.cjb.net

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Posted:KNAGI:::: maybe a skull and crossbones or a pot leaf.

We are defined by the choices we make

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xaeda


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Posted:hello :-)I just wondered down to the computer lab in a singlet and bare feet. Then a storm broke out. So I'm gonna be a whimp stay here and hope it clears.....heh, could be here for a while ;-)I made some flags for myself last night. When I got the CoL video, in my ignorance I actually thought Dangerboy was just being incredibly original and spinning with bedsheets! Now I realise that it's something lots of people do, and that they're a little bit more complicated than just bedsheets ;-) Anyway, I made mine out of this incredibly thin, almost plasticy organza, it's silver and quite see-through....reminds me of dragonflies. I absolutely love them.....the movement is a bit more limited than with poi, but they're so beautiful. I've been experimenting with attatching a little wooden ball (about 5cm diameter) to the point where I hold them, so I can use club swinging grips. I was thinking if I attatch a swivel between the ball and the flag, it might stop the tangling problem. But I actually quite like them just the way they are. Wooohooo, new toys.....I'm happy :-)xaeda

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frodus


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Posted:this place sells a lot of themtry them outi might order some in the futureits something differenthttp://www.circuittoys.com/cs/f00.htm

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Igirisujin
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Posted:Dam what a bump eh, this is going to hurt my post whore reputation.

I just orderd a pair of flags from poipoi, they have a discount on flags where 17.99 down too 9.99. SO I thought ide try these out, ive allways wanted to get hold of some flags. I know you have to be carefull with them (but hey at a tenner tongue) anyone know what poipoi's flags are like? Good, awfull? ripp off? Worth it?


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UCOF
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Posted:I reckon:
Poipoi = cheaply made, low end quality products, made by sweatshop workers in Thailand*

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Just my opinion though, so it would be best to wait for someone who actually has a pair to comment.

Oh, and would you have started a new thread about this were there not the "search before posting new thread" in place? wink
I probably would have ubblol

*this is probably NOT true wink


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Mags The Jedi
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Posted:Megabump

"I believe the cost of life is Death and we will all pay that in full. Everything else should be a gift. We paid the cover charge of life, we were born."

Bill Hicks, February 1988

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Medusa
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Posted:I got some lovely flags from Oddballs, they have a beautiful weight to them and the material is a nice and sheer white with a black lining...so nice to use, not too big and not too small.

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Posted:ooooooooooooooooo pwiddy flags bounce i spun using flags before, infact i own some and i cant believe the only reason someone wouldn't try or buy some is in case they might look homosexual ubblol

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Posted: Written by: Medusa


I got some lovely flags from Oddballs, they have a beautiful weight to them and the material is a nice and sheer white with a black lining...so nice to use, not too big and not too small.



Oddballs Flags = Sex with handles ubblove biggrin


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TheBovrilMonkey
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Posted:Oddballs Flags = Bondage?

Interesting.

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_Clare_
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Posted:Pictures of Lisa/Faberge's uber-gorgeous and excellent to spin flags...

Michelle spinning lovely flags

also...

Some random person spinning flags by a lighthouse

Not as cheap as some... but they're hand-made and utterly brilliant

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_Aime_
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Posted: Written by: Fine_Rabid_Dog


 Written by: Medusa


I got some lovely flags from Oddballs, they have a beautiful weight to them and the material is a nice and sheer white with a black lining...so nice to use, not too big and not too small.



Oddballs Flags = Sex with handles ubblove biggrin



I agree, I've got some huuuge pink flags from oddballs fro 30quid. A bit on the steep side...but they're lovely biggrin


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dewboi1982
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Posted:I just went to Jo-ANNS and bought every thing i needed to make my own set of flags, it cost me a little more then half of what i would have spent to buy them from some place on the web, I think they turned out pretty good. I still need to make a few improvements to them but thats a given. I made mine 36'' by 24'' . Oh PS about if flags are a gay thing... It was my str8 friends that got me into them.

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