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CharlesBRONZE Member
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3,989 posts
Location: Auckland, New Zealand


Posted:
Lets have some more discussions and suggestions moving along because I've been a bit slack getting online lately, mainly due to summer coming up and having lots more gigs (three seperate gigs just last week!).So I have been neglecting the staff moves project and I'd like some more input form everyone like last time...***Please note, this attempt to name moves is to help the articulation of text-based staff moves which is one of the reasons staff is having trouble getting discussed regularly on HoP.This is to (hopefully) start the building blocks of a common language to try to make staffing easier to learn and discuss in a textbased format.If you don't like the name of a move but understand what it is, please let it lie, otherwise this will just become a series of in-fights, and will not be constructive at all. Thanking you in advance... ***The following moves have been discussed and suggested on https://www.homeofpoi.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000322.html
with some history too. Please read through if you haven't already.----------Staff Movements----------------* HELICOPTER = A horizontal spin in the same space, usually above the head.* ROTOR = Any vertical spin that stays in one space. Same as HELICOPTER, but perpindicular to the ground.* 1/2SPIN = Where the staff has only spun 180, this is regardless of any other motions or actions.* FULLSPIN/DOUBLESPIN/TRIPLESPIN/ 1/4SPIN ETC= As above, 1 spin is a complete rotation and the rest as they apply.* FIGURE 8 = To do a 1/2SPIN on you left and right side with the path crossing directly in fron of you. A trail from the centre of the staff would make a sideways figure 8 wrapped around you.* SIDEWAYS FIGURE 8 = A FIGURE 8 where the 1/2SPINS are in front and behind you, instead of on either side.* POP = Simple flat throw into the air, horizontal without spinning unless otherwise stated.* OVERHEAD POP = Flat throw from the front and caught behind or from behind and caught in front.* CLOCKWISE = The spin of the staff in relation to the front of the staffer* ANTICLOCKWISE = Reverse of clockwise, or same direction but behind your back rather than in front.----------Manipulation Movements----------* FINGERSPIN = To roll the staff through your fingers one-by one, keeping the staff stationary and spinning in a ROTOR or HELICOPTER.*** please note, FINGERSPINS do not need to travel along all five fingers, but the end action where the staff wraps under or over the hand to begin the motion again is seen as the end, not the beginning**** PINKYSPIN = FINGERSPIN that begins with the pinky, and then to the ring finger, index finger and so on. * THUMBSPIN = Same as PINKYSPIN, but starting form the thumb and then traveling along the pointing finger, index finger and so on.* FORWARDS = To lead a movement or spin with the thumb on the leading part of the staff. As in slicing a sword down diagonally in front of you.* BACKWARDS = Same as FORWARDS, but with the pinky on the leading part of the staff.* FORWARDS FIGURE 8 = To lead with the thumb-half of the staff when doing a figure eight.* HANDWRAP = To release the staff while spinning it so that it rolls over or under your hand and then cathing it again. Often used during FINGERSPINS to keep the staff centred.* STALL = I'd like some more feedback on this, but would prefer a stall to be any move that stops the spin completely.* FOOTSTALL = Horizontal catch or movement with the staff stationary and horizontal on your foot for at least one milliheartbeat.* FOOTBALANCE = Balancing the staff on one end (preferably without fire) on your foot for at least one milliheartbeat* TOOTHGRAB = Any STALL or move where the staff is held by the mouth/teeth/TONGUE!!! etc. People like myself who experiment with moves like this should prepare themselves for ridicule...* TUCK = Like an underarm roll. To swing the staff under your armpit, either to catch it there or as part of another move.* PALMSPIN = To spin the staff in a flat palm, without using the fingers.* BACKSPIN = To spin the staff on the hollow of your back without using hands or arms.* "insert body part here"SPIN = To spin the staff on your "IBPH" without using hands or arms.-----------Body Movements------------------* 180 = Half-rotation of entire body (usually using feet)* 360 = Full-rotation of body * 45,90,270 = Well, you get the idea, aye?* LEFT-TWIST = swiveling at the waist 90 degrees to your left* RIGHT-TWIST = swiveling at the waist 90 degrees to your right* LEFT-TWIST[45][20][180!] etc = Swiveling the appropriate number of degrees, also includes RIGHT-TWISTS.***Any move calling for 180 or more should put an "!" after it, coz its very hard to do!***That's most of them so far, could a couple of peeps see if they can use the terms to describe some of the movies in the Video-Section.Cheers------------------Charles (INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttps://juggling.co.nz[This message has been edited by Charles (edited 08 October 2001).][This message has been edited by Charles (edited 09 October 2001).]

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pozeeBRONZE Member
old hand
887 posts
Location: san diego, USA


Posted:
i guess i should start learning the names you all have put to these moves. hey, with that matrix thing, you can set it on you stomach and do a stomach spin and then when one end gets to the side of your body you can roll and the staff naturally goes into spins on your back...

anyone got a light?


TheGrynygoggmember
47 posts
Location: England, just north of London


Posted:
I wasn't laying claim to the fingerroll/spin. I was just explaining that it can be continuous and how I do it. Sorry for any confusion.

Just ignore me. Everyone else does.


SurlochSILVER Member
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64 posts
Location: Brisbane, Australia


Posted:
Well, sort of like that jump move mentioned just above, but I've been practicing a SKIP, which is where you do a fingerspin helicoptor below you, and run like mad over the staff to get enough speed. If you think about this, to reach you have to be bent over double. So, if you're really good (which I'm not yet) you finish off the move by adding a second staff and doing a fingerspin helicoptor above you (on your back). I was going to call the final move a TURTLE because that's how silly you look doing it. I've got the SKIP, now I need to work on adding that second staff doh.

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Dragon7GOLD Member
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Location: Aotearoa (NZ), New Zealand


Posted:
BUMP

[Nx?]BRONZE Member
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Posted:
ouch!

This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
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NateBRONZE Member
Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
1,530 posts
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England


Posted:
has anyone named any of these

halo, Fishtails, Matrix etc etc?

keep the thread going.....many moves remain un named, or classified as certain movements etc

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LavatwilightGOLD Member
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK


Posted:
snes, angle roll, :P

ah stuff it....directs people to M.C.P's site for contact names

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A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
ANGEL roll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

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ben-ja-menGOLD Member
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Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
your an angel roll tongue

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mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
Your a gay model poet. tongue

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
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2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
well da tongue

offtopic lolsign kiss mad ubbangel ubbloco rolleyes juggle umm

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
off topic posts are the best posts.

Fishtails with another staff in your hand are easy. Plus you can turn your hand palm up and do stupid stuff. tongue

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
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2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
depends if ur doing the fishtail on ur hand or on the stick now doesnt it, palm up and do stupid stuff like ....

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


ado-pGOLD Member
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland


Posted:
i can do a fishtail with my hand closed on the staff. smile

no wait, thats a figure of eight

whats a fishtail again?

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mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
You've got two staffs, one in your grip, the other doing a fishtail on the back of your hand. (fist) So just pretend you're other hand is injured, with say a wrist sprain, and put it behind your back.

You can even transfer the fishtail to on the staff, which is fun. I'll have to try palm up fishtails on the staff... hmmmm....

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
try those 3 beat fishtails with ur doubles eek

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
yeah right. I would absolutely destroy my room. I can't even do doubles in there or three beat fishtails, cos it's too small.

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
go outside u wuss tongue

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
no. It's cold. rolleyes

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


ado-pGOLD Member
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland


Posted:
it almost feels warm here after ed.

but i thought you were made of sterner stuff mcp.

how bout fishtials while holding blocks of ice under hand

IRON FIST!!!!!!!

Love is the law.


mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
I have bad circulation. If I go outside and it's cold, I get chillblains. And chillblains are for OLD people.

For fishtails you need your hands. So I don't practise ICE FIST!

biggrin

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
what!!! your complaining about the cold miss meg ...... wasnt it u that was telling me how only the weak and feeble complain about the cold ..... tongue

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


Dr_MollyPooh-Bah
2,354 posts
Location: Away from home


Posted:
yesyes ben, but it takes the youthful and might to whine about it wink



puss still has my stick

bother

mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
yeah, but it wasn't cold when you were here.

It's not that cold now, but when I get home the night has set in, and I've lost my fingerless gloves. (two pairs thereof)

tongue

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


NateBRONZE Member
Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
1,530 posts
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England


Posted:
stop this talk of nonsenseness.......i spin in my t-shirt and its winter so mcp stop complaining, post some explanations to some moves...like these angel rolls???

I like Languages.

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GlåssDIAMOND Member
The Ministry of Manipulation
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Location: Bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
O/T frown

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