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Jo
Jo

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Location: Sheffield, England
Member Since: 13th Dec 2000
Total posts: 517
Posted:*** disclaimer-type-thing ***

I do not recommend this design to anyone - it is provided as inspiration and as an idea to develope. As you can see from the other pics on the page, THESE TOYS ARE NOT SAFE. Don't even think about trying a similar design unless you are very experienced.

*** disclaimer-type-thing over ***

http://www.firedanceuk.com/ouch.htm


The wick got destroyed after about 2 burns, so now we have a bit of rope secured around the outside of the cage. The wick lasts a lot longer that way, and you get less of a molten metal build up. Also, the cage came off after a while and is now wired on rather than electrical-taped on (should have known that would happen... )

If any of you ignore my advice at the top of this post and make something like these, then please gimme some feedback about how it goes and any design alterations that worked.

Here's a vid of them in action:
http://www.firedanceuk.com/videos/Black_Bush_Jo_high.wmv

please right click and 'save target as'

Cheers.
Jo.

[ 11. September 2003, 21:40: Message edited by: Jo ]


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flid
flid

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire
Member Since: 27th Aug 2002
Total posts: 3136
Posted:I once watched a guy spin wirewool on a street in a residential area who couldn't even do 3 beat weave. It was cringeworthy to watch

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darkpoet
darkpoet

Irish
Location: Dallas.........ish
Member Since: 14th May 2003
Total posts: 525
Posted:so....let him torch himself...laugh at him for being an idiot.....laugh for a few more minutes...then put him out...

if u let him burn long enough he will never pick up another set of fire poi biggrin



*runs off to go get marshmellows and sticks

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Jo
Jo

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Location: Sheffield, England
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Total posts: 517
Posted:That's some dark poetry right there biggrin

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darkpoet
darkpoet

Irish
Location: Dallas.........ish
Member Since: 14th May 2003
Total posts: 525
Posted:lolsign
arent you a cheeky bloke.........


if i ever get around to it ill post how i made my cages..i get around a 3-5min wool burn


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DenGad
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Location: Copenhagen, DK
Member Since: 15th Jun 2005
Total posts: 45
Posted:I joined so late that I've never seen the old pictures.

Any chance for a new one?

I would like to make a couple of cages and practice a _lot_ with

them before actually putting wool in them, and even then I'd

probably stick to a simple 3-beat weave for some time smile

I would very much like to not make the same design mistakes

that you've already corrected, but trying to imagine the cages

from the comments is too hard for me.

I'm personally not surprised that the thread lives... sparklepoi

just looks _too_ nice for me not to try it, but I fully realise that

it's a huge step up in danger from a simple burning wick.

Any advice, save for forget it or don't do it, is very much appreciated smile



/Dennis

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DenGad
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Location: Copenhagen, DK
Member Since: 15th Jun 2005
Total posts: 45
Posted:No comments so far...

Well, I'll throw in a more direct question..
I am assuming that the bottom of the cages is wire mesh not matter is all of the cage is or you have solid sides.
I would like if someone could post measurements of the mesh they use; wire diameter and holesize, to get an idea of what works best.
I also assume that if you use solid sides you would have a distance with mesh sides at the bottom to allow increased airflow to the wool that is at he very bottom.
If so, how long?

/Dennis


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Rellizate
Rellizate

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Location: Cambridge, UK
Member Since: 10th Feb 2007
Total posts: 719
Posted:I worked out that having holes at about 1 1/4inch to 1 3/4inch works best. You also need a curved (bent outward) bottom, or else the wirewool will clump.

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ubersmack
ubersmack

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Location: Wisconsin
Member Since: 9th Jul 2006
Total posts: 73
Posted:And since no one wanted to post new pictures I took some. These are not the blackbush poi, as I don't like whiskey enough to buy 2 bottles to make poi out of.

Instead these are made from coffee cans. Not the big fat ones, the slightly smaller ones. The wire is just chicken wire I picked up at Home Depot. Had to buy a whole roll but just used the rest for an anti-cat-escape fence on my back deck. wink I used a thick coat hanger on the end to attach the handles to, which are of course your average dog chain from the pet store. Were the wire starts to curve off the can, i poked holes around in the can and used utility wire to attach wire to can so it doesn't fly apart. To make the curve I had to cut out chunks of the chicken wire and form a dome and wire it all together.


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The setup, they are roughly 8 inches long from the top of the can to the bottom of the wire, and about 4 inches wide.


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This is the end of one of them, you can see i had to poke holes through the can to attach the hanger, and your standard link to attach the chains. I have the wire bent over inside the can to it doesn't snag on anything.


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This is looking down into them, you can see about the size holes I have used.

I have noticed packing the wool differently has an effect on how long they burn, if you break it up (fluff it), not just shove chunks of it in, it seemed to make for a better and longer show (something around 45 seconds to a minute).

The only thing that would be better is if they where a bit heavier, you have to work a little harder to make the sparks fly. Pretty easy to reload as well (after they have cooled off of course).

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In action biggrin biggrin

Any questions let me know.


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