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MikeIcon
GOLD Member since Mar 2003

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Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA

Total posts: 2109
Posted:Ok, I think I got this move down but Im not 100% sure Im doing it correctly. How many beats go on each side? What Im doing right now looks pretty good but it seems Im doing an extra beat somewhere along the way and Im not sure what I could be doing wrong. Wish I could get a video of it cuz Id slaughter a text description.

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flid
BRONZE Member since Aug 2002

flid

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom

Total posts: 3136
Posted:if it looks good then who cares? Butterfly weave is simple, its just butterfly in one direction for a beat on one side of your body, then one beat of butterfly in the opposite direction on the other for a beat. You end up doing 2 beats on the side of the body your hand belongs to and one on the other, compared to in normal 3 beat weave where you get one beat on the side of the body the hand belongs to and 2 on the other.

As for video, you ain't looking hard enough, cause this recently got discussed here.


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Jo


Jo

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Location: Sheffield, England

Total posts: 517
Posted:Flid,

That's not quite <<edit>> how I see this move. <<edit>> I feel Butterfly weave is butterflys using the weave hand motions / beat patterns (2,3,4, or 5 beats). You have described the 2bt version, but there's a whole world of mad butterfly weavage to play with. You need the TTN and 4bt TTN on both sides to open up some of the weavey stuff.

The first post that is <<edit>> similar to my thoughts is Josh's in the discussion you linked to.


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[ 03. July 2003, 08:13: Message edited by: Jo ]


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MikeIcon
GOLD Member since Mar 2003

MikeIcon

Pooh-Bah
Location: Philadelphia, PA - USA

Total posts: 2109
Posted:Thanks for the replies. I did in fact have the 3 beat butterfly weave correctly. Just gotta learn it backwards now hehe. And as for video, I wasnt looking for one. I was just saying that I wish I could post one of what I was doing so yall could tell me if I was doing it right.

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flid
BRONZE Member since Aug 2002

flid

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire, United Kingdom

Total posts: 3136
Posted:awesome, can we have a "my move name is correct and yours is just wrong" rant/thread please?

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Jo


Jo

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Location: Sheffield, England

Total posts: 517
Posted:quote: Butterfly weave is simple, its just butterfly in one direction for a beat on one side of your body, then one beat of butterfly in the opposite direction on the other for a beat. Sorry if I sounded harsh, Flid, but the above was very, shall we say, different to other people's understanding. It doesn't matter to me what people call their moves, but describing named and recognised moves differently on the board will lead to confusion.

So there!

Jo.


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Astar


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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada.

Total posts: 1591
Posted:Flid isn't incorrect, just incomplete. If he said he was doing a 2b he would be right. Anyways the 2b is closer to a butterfly then the other TTN based ones, which are actually TTN's.

Also Couldn't you do hands together split time butterflies on either side like the 2b BF weave and do Threadtheneedlefoolery inbetween. That way you would get the nifty bouncing back and forth weird look of a split time butterfly from the side with extra beats like a "correct BF weave"

Personally now that I understand and can do flids bf weave and the "correct one" I like them both the same. The way the 2b one bounces back and forth and side to side has a pretty nifty effect for someone who is watching it head on.


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Jo


Jo

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Location: Sheffield, England

Total posts: 517
Posted:Agreed.

There is tons of bf weaves, and the 2 beat is one of my favourites. Easiest to dance with by far - I use it loads.

I also like 3bt and 5bt. And 4bt. And I love the 2bts at either end of the 5bt. Mmmmmmmmm..... I love them all in split time and same time too. They're all gorgeous moves.

That is why I posted - I'm sure some peeps wouldn't realize there was so many possibilities to explore with this move if they thought, "Butterfly weave is simple, its just butterfly in one direction for a beat on one side of your body, then one beat of butterfly in the opposite direction on the other for a beat."

I wasn't trying to put anyone down or start a "my description is right" rant - honest



Jo.

PS. I've passified my first post. Reads a bit nicer now (but a bit less naturally)

[ 03. July 2003, 08:16: Message edited by: Jo ]


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Onyx Flame
SILVER Member since May 2009

Onyx Flame

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Location: , USA

Total posts: 16
Posted:I'm somewhat of a visual learner, but I'm just wondering if the 3 beat butterfly weave would be the same as the 3 beat Archer Weave done same-time. confused

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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England

Total posts: 5688
Posted:Nope - butterfly weave has poi going in different directions.
It can be done split-time or same-time, and can be done Archer/LASA (Long-arm, short-arm) style or "normal".
It can be done with 2, 4 or 5 beats too smile


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_khan_
SILVER Member since Nov 2004

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Location: San Francisco, California, USA

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Posted:wow a six-year bump!! impressive.

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johndhaive
GOLD Member since Jan 2009

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Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma, Philippines

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Posted:indeed!

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