Chaos Childe member Location: Santa Cruz Member Since: 9th Jan 2002 Total posts: 4
Posted:Welp, the title line should say it all.So... I just read somethin in the staff moves section.. Phuzz, I think?Anyways... any of you(all) got advice or ideas for making a fire cross?I assume PVC is -not- a good idea for fire play.
phuzzz member Location: saltspring island, bc , kanada Member Since: 5th Nov 2001 Total posts: 160
Posted:almost all of my staffs are made of wood dowl. for my croses i cut a knotch wide enough, eg... my dowel are 3/4 inch thick. the knotches are this wide also. at center on both dowels so they fit together in a cross config. not too deep as this will make an obvious weak point. i use a saw an cut 3/4 inches apart and just under half way through, then chisel out the inbetweenie bit. the i glue together, drill a hole through center and put a small bolt. the tons of electrical tape to make a nice smooth seal. i tried using one of those metal 4way joiner thingies and ffound it heavy awquard and expensive. as per moves... go slow and fancyness will be sure to follow.see if you can keep a rotor going with one finger....hope i helped a bit
Knagi member Location: Brunswick, Ohio Member Since: 28th Jun 2001 Total posts: 397
Posted:I went the metal cross way. It's so much easyer. It is quite abit heavy but you get used to it fast. When I started I was only able to practice it for 10 mins befor my arms couldn't hold it up anymore. Now I can wave it around for 30 mins and still have enough strength for my other toys.I started with strait galvinized steel tubbing and later found some of the same stuff that was alittle bit lighter. If you go this way make sure you pick up some pipe padding and tape that stuff to every part of the cross other then the handles. Also keep an eye on it because every time you drop it, it moves the padding up off the ends. It clocked me in the forhead once with bare metal. Not pleasant As for wicks I drilled a hole through each end then twisted up some strips of jeans and knotted them through it. Then wired the outside tight. It's tough to light but once it gets going it burns longer then any kevlar creation I've made.Smoothness will come with practice but I still don't have the strength to whip it around super fast. Also it is very cheap to make maybe 10 bucks tops.One finger rotor's just don't happen with this design. But for fun try throwing it higher then 5 feet up and catching it without breaking every bone in your hand. Non-Https Image Link ------------------We are all in the cosmic movie. That means the day you die you watch your whole life repeating for eternity. So you'd better have some good things happen in there and have a fitting climax. --Jim MorrisonMost Memerable crowd saying "Hey look that dude's gonna set himself on fire again!"
We are all in the cosmic movie. That means the day you die you watch your whole life repeating for eternity. So you'd better have some good things happen in there and have a fitting climax. --Jim MorrisonIt's going to come from a direction you didn't predict at a moment of chaos which you didn't see coming. -- NYC
addict Location: Ohio, USA Member Since: 24th Mar 2003 Total posts: 674
Posted:Ok, I'm jumpstarting this thread. I want to make a cross, and have been looking at ways to do it, as Knagi's cross got broken this weekend and now I want to use one...
1) Aluminum tube welded together. Probably not strong enough in cases of drops, even with dowel slipped through the tube.
2) A PVC fitting. With either the aluminum slipped inside or over it and secured with a screw. I'd think that this would make it hard to do some rolling moves, and would break the continuity of the spins since there would be a spot near the center where your hands would have to negotiate the PVC part...
3) Metal fiting. Same problems.
4) Wood cut / secured with aluminum sleeves on the end for the wicks. Ummm, I think the biggest disadvantage here would be LACK of weight. I got used to twirling an ugly, heavy lump of steel (hehe Knagi you sadistic bastard), and I think that the weight actually helped with a lot of the moves I learned. Then again, I havn't tried them with a light version, so I have nothing to compare to.
Now I know some of you have made these. I've seen em. Come on, share! Pretty please!