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Location: Cornwall, England
Member Since: 17th Jul 2001
Total posts: 60
Posted:HelloIm a beginner, trying to learn staff, but poi is looking tempting to learn aswell! So basically, Im wondering what most of you found easier to learn? and why? Poi.......or......staff?? look forward to hearing from ya!
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the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
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Posted:I believe the general consensus will say staff as you don't have to move two hands in counter directions and patterns, which can get quite hairy if you're not fully ambidextrous and your less dominant hand is just stupid (like mine is).HOWEVER, I would recommend learning poi first for this reason, everything else is way easier after it....I have been able to pick up staff variations (cross, lil bit of doubles i have tried) and Devil Sticks with relative ease (I said "relative", not perfect ease
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) because I have my hands trained to move certain ways. That and getting the harder out of the way first is a real confidence booster for when/if you decide to branch out.Anyway, there you go, my opinion.Best to you in your practices and endeavors. ------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...www.pyromorph.com

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Location: Boulder, Co
Member Since: 4th Jul 2001
Total posts: 222
Posted:I saw a guy doing devilsticks at a day rave this Sunday and asked him if he had done them with fire cuz he was really good. I showed him how to make them and now he is hooked. *YaY*Love always,Spanky

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Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 25th Jan 2001
Total posts: 2758
Posted:I'm 100% with Pele on this one: staff is easier, but learning poi first would be extremely benificial. BTW - moving you over to tech discussion.

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Posted:Staff is easier from a not-gonna-burn-yourself perspective, but from a performance perspective, I actually think poi is easier.I think it is easier to reach a level of proficiency with Poi that will look cool to an uneducated onlooker, than it is to do the same with Staff. Everyone has seen martial arts flicks with nutters doing crazy shit with staves...and so when you get out there and all you can do is wave it around a bit, ppl are nonplussed.However with Poi, I think there is the novelty aspect, which boosts their appeal...So yeah.Poi is easier to impress with than Staff, but they are also a bit more likely to burn you.IMHOJosh[This message has been edited by [Josh] (edited 18 July 2001).]

Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Member Since: 8th Mar 2001
Total posts: 383
Posted:pppffftt..I guess it depends on who you are trying to impress? And how much exposure your audience would have had to twirling? I would love to meet someone who had been playing and learning with both for 10 years plus... I believe sticks to be definitely easier to learn than poi. Then again... I have to say I haven't seen many ppl do much that isn't ye olde 'martial arts' type moves with sticks. Then again I have also heard a story of some guy burning his hands bad in a super tangle with good old poi (Aloe vera is a Godsent).. depends what you would rather get burnt with and bounce back cause that's exactly what is going to happen at some stage with either.

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Posted:Yeah I guess it depends on whether or not you are wanting to impress at all? hard to deny that a lot of what gets said on this board is external impression related....pppffft! Indeed!
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Classic 90's Fire Dancer... Poi, Staff, Doubles, and Breathing
Location: South Lake Tahoe
Member Since: 29th Mar 2001
Total posts: 743
Posted:my heart is with the poi, but I can't stop playing with my staff. I know it may seem like a personal problem, but i can't put it down. I spend an hour or two everyday with it. I have used a lot of variations of poi moves and have improved dramaticly. Its funny because a whole new style, and character comes out in my staff. Compleatly diffrent than my poi. I don't know it well enough yet to explain, but there is a major diffrence.So Go Big Staff Man! Keep on spinning!


Location: Hudson, FL, US
Member Since: 7th May 2001
Total posts: 23
Posted:imho, i think that staff is easier to learn but harder to master than poi. meaning: with staff you can learn the moves easily but making them look fluid and professional is a lot harder; with poi the moves are harder to learn, but once you have them its fairly simple (in my opinion) to make it look smooth<3------------------What we call human nature, is actually human habit.

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Location: Sydney
Member Since: 27th Jun 2001
Total posts: 15
Posted:I would say, learn both.I started on staff, spent a few months on that, then abandoned it for poi for a few months. After this, I went back to staff and found that all my moves were smoother, I was more aware of where the staff was in my hands and around me and I picked up a few new tricks easily.The motions of twirling are such that learning either will help you with both, and they're both heaps of fun, so there's really no point in only learning one of the two. Every time I twirl nowadays I alternate between poi and staff and find that it makes for great practice . . . if you ever start getting bored, you just switch toys.

newly burnt
Location: England
Member Since: 28th Jul 2001
Total posts: 6
Posted:Started leaning poi at the same time as a friend started learning the staff and just for interests sake I had a quick go with the staff I found that I learned moves in different ways with each. With poi the hard part is atually doing the move for the first time after that its really easy to make it look good. But with staff the moves are easy but to make them look good is really differcuit. If that makes any sense.

Location: Cornwall, England
Member Since: 17th Jul 2001
Total posts: 60
Posted:Well cheers everyone for your replies. Its been quite interesting, but i get the general idea that its a wiser idea to master poi first, then staff will be easier to pick up. If anyone has any other comments, it would be cool to hear from them! Keep Smiling
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Location: Raleigh, North Carolina, Unite...
Member Since: 27th Jul 2001
Total posts: 28
Posted:it depends on YOU. which one do you like better. I always like poi better than staff. so i picked it up faster, but some of my friends picked up staff faster than poi. it all depends on poi, but before you tie a glow stick or what ever you use to some rope and start going at it. just use a bath robe rope and tie knots at each end, that way when you hit your self in the head back legs, NUT it will not hurt, and to get speed and train your self move to jump rope with wooden handles, you can get realy fast with them. and when you mess up, YOU LEARN YOUR LESSON. oh by the way were does the word poi come from, is it related to koren ,tae kwon do in any way they do a form of my but i dont know what it is called thanksplur

Location: London UK
Member Since: 23rd Jul 2001
Total posts: 337
Posted:easy solution btw, learn both
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's what I'm doing...you can have a longer + better routine then. Plus if you get bored with one while practising, you can always swap.------------------"O! for a muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention." - William ShakespeareCheck out my Online Gallery!B l A c K i E

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