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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

flash fire

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Posted:hello HOPers.98% of the tech/moves talk round here is about poi. I don't actually play with poi and (like to say that) I'm a staff purist. I mostly do double staff but also do double crosses.Am I the only one on this board who doesn't use poi AT ALL??!!------------------"she dances in a ring of fire and throws off the challenge with a shrug"[This message has been edited by flash fire (edited 06 June 2001).]

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Posted:I think you might be
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Ade
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Posted:I started as a staff pursit, single and double. Now my main focus is poi and other fire toys. I do still play and perform with the staff though
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melissa
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Posted:i would tend to consider myself a fire fan purist. i danced with feather fans for 4 years and fire fans for about a year and a half. its more comfortable and enjoyable than when i play with other things.

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Posted:Silly question Flash...everyone knows poi are the highest art
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I'm trying really hard to be a jack-o-all-trades...I'm currently training on Doubles, Single and Poi. I also juggle a lot.
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Pele
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Pele

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Posted:So I prolly shouldn't even post here since some would say I am training to be a jack-ass of all trades but I see no problems with being a purist. Admittedly I would like to see more discussions involving staves, both double and single, as I do single and make poor attempts at double, though I can cross them real well!
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Fire fans also are lost here...there used to be a few who were magnificent at them. Jump Ropes are still something I don't get to see, and I am stumped for further tricks. *sigh*Even those of us who aren't purists but take on the more "obscure" tools I think suffer a feeling of isolation at times. So even though I am a poier...I am first and foremost a pyro and performer...which at times gets lost in all the btb weaves.
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------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...


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melissa
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Posted:i still am magnificent at fans (chuckle)

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Finn


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Posted:Melissa,I'm yet to see fire fans (although I did once see an amazing fan dance done with feathers). Do you have any photos or video that we can have a look at?I sooo want to see what it looks like.Finn
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melissa
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Posted:i'll see what i can scrounge up. if you're into fan dancing you should check out web pages on sally rand- she's the gall that i base my dance style after. she's is famous for dancing naked to classical music with large ostrich fans at the 1933 world's fair in chicago. quite the act for that time period!

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pj


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Posted:I've made some practice staves, and played with them a little bit, but they seem to get far more use by others than myself. Every time I pick them up I get a little more interested in them, but never to the extent I have with poi. What got me most interested in staff was watching Ben perform at the ECSF.In any case, I'm in the middle of construction of a fire staff, so we'll see if a lighted staff does anything for me soon...-p.

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s-p-l-a-t


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Posted:hmmm... i like all the stuff I've seen on fire ever .... I have seen a couple of performers using fire fans but nothing impressive. I'd love to see someone who knew what they were doing use them. Photos and video now damnit!
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But when they make these ostrich feather fans they don't actually kill or harm ostrichs do they? Or any other birds? hmmm..not sure if id like knowing the answer...


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Malcolm
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Posted:Flash Fire,I did a search in the Meet others database on people who use staff. Results: 389 use Staff out of the 833 people in the database.When people search on the net for "staff" they may tend to get lots of "human resource" sites, maybe this could explain something??Quite often on a fire night here there would be more staff people than poi people.Malcolm

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Peregrine


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Posted:you don't have to kill an ostrich to get feathers, all birds molt (shed) all their feathers at least once if not more times a year so they can be collected then. however i am sure when they have farmed ostriches for meat and leather they do use the feathers, so probably some (if not most?) are from dead ostriches. things like peacock feathers and guinea hen feathers (the spotted ones) are molted since no one eats peacock. feathers from chickens and turkeys...the usual "craft store" type are likely a by-product of eating chickens.and while we're at it, it's illegal, at least in the united states, canada, and australia, to have feathers from native, wild non-game birds...everything except grouse and ducks (in oz, emu)...so selling said feathers is also illegal. this law is not generally enforced for the occasional blue jay feather you might find, they go after people who shoot eagles and run their cars into flocks of sandpipers. but nobody seems to know this little bit of information so there you go.</off topic>Pere

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Twist


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Posted:I'm about to ditch poi completely for meteors.

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adamrice


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Posted:So far I really only work with poi, though I've got a staff I'm not using, and I really want to make myself up a pair of fire-swords and learn some Chinese sword-dance moves to use them with.

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.draevon
BRONZE Member since Dec 2000

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Posted:I think the beauty of staff twirling is in that the flames are always exactly opposite each other at a 'perfect' and unchanging distance. I much prefer staff to poi.raevon

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Finn


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Posted:Thanks for the tip Melissa. I'll chase her up
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I'd still love to see a photo/video of you doing fire fans. I'm sure if you e-mail it to Malcolm he'll put it up on the site.
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Thanks,Finn
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Frenzie
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

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Posted:3 wordsHome Of Poi

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flash fire
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flash fire

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Posted:6 words actually (and you know it!)Home of Poi and *fire twirling*
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Posted:f-f: you might be tickled to know that at tonight's fire practice, poi were the minority. There were also staves, batons, fans, meteors, finger wands. Now, most of the folks that used all these other apparatus also do poi, but there were more non-poi sets than poi sets.

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