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I have seen them done in 3beat rev weave, but is this the best way to start?
Summiong it all up i can see what the end product should be but i just don't know where to start. I hope this makes sense....
So does anyone have any tips on how to start and er....anything on these dammed isolations that would help me and probably a few others.
Thank you in anticipation
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Delete TopicTry heaver poi with lighter strings. I actually first got 'em by using a RenFaire pouch which had my keys and cell phone in it and was really heavy - I was twirling it by its drawstring, which is less than a foot long, and suddenly I was twirling it in isolations. Then I tried with my sock poi.
Try the kind where your hand and the poi stay at opposite sides of the circle. It feels like going into a stall, except instead of following your poi straight down with your hand, you circle your hand around. (Sorry for the terrible description.)Learn one hand at a time...
If I can do them at all (admittedly, barely), they're *not* impossible - I can't do half of what you do, after all!
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if I twirl slowerthen the lose momentum and thus make even larger circles (poi) around my smaller circles (hands)... and when I try and spin them faster, I can'tmake my hands make larger circles...
the way I twirl also keeps my hands from making exagerated movements... So, style also plays into it..
and its not in what you can do, its in how well you can do it.. because control is learned over time through repetition... and i know that since I haven't been spinning long, it will take a while to develop the control that experienced spinners have.. so while I await control, I'm learning all the different moves, and transitions, etc.
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I find just doing normal poi isolated removes all the hair from the back of my hands...
Rev: its months and months of mental torture, not only does the speed have to be right but you also got to maintain perfect circles with your hands to stop them collapsing. Its easier with socks because you dont have to be so exact, the streach lets you move in more vauge circles, but this dosnt help when it comes to doing chains (tho I did think of putting a small spring in my chains) so its best to use a heavy weight on a non-streachy string.
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I've actually been able to do it for months now, but it didn't work before. Same technique, but with heavier chains seems to work a treat, so my tip is to use heavier chains, i guess it helps momentum
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Couldn't do it for sh*t using my practice poi - then had a go on the aerotech's and it works a treat. Plus it looks prettier
I've nearly got the isolated buzzsaw fountain as well....whoooop wooooop
Just got to stop the ass wiggle and it'll all be OK.
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I've nearly got the isolated buzzsaw fountain as well....whoooop wooooop i still can't do that.
note to self: *must work on reverse isolations*
trade secret for hels: its the ass wiggle that makes isolatons sexy - lose that and the move becomes pointless
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It's doing the turn from forwards to backwards that's the killer
*lots* more practice needed!!
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Hels, YAY!!!! go to it princess! do you realise that this makes you a better spinner than cole?
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isolate that!
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still puzzled by these crosshanded isolations... getting about 4 before they collapse...
any help?
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now I wish I spent more time learning hyperloops..
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Deleteyou just need an extra pair of hands cole then it's easy
still puzzled by these crosshanded isolations... getting about 4 before they collapse...
any help?
R bump on the question
*looks pointedly at cole*
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to abate the puzzlement i gave up trying.
worked a treat.
or maybe like your idea for isolated 44(pleX)1 you just need an extra pair of hands...
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i rekon socks are pretty usefull for learning isolations as you can see the whole poi as they lock together in their turns. it looks wicked and the stretchyness of the material seems to help them flop over as well when u change the pivot... yes socks are good, the streach means that you dont have to follow the poi head exactly with your hands, you have a bit of lee-way.
The disagvantage of socks comes when you go to do them with fire, because all of a sudden you dont have that leeway, so once youve got the motion with socks, abandon them and move to cone poi, and tighten up your circles. then doing with fire, or even glowsticks becomes much easier.
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i still haven't got it spot on yet, but i'm makin myself a nice set of tennis balls to play with at the moment !
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