moses
member
Location: murray UT
Member Since: 18th Aug 2003
Total posts: 30
Posted:ok, so i'm pretty sure I can do this move, but from what other people have been saying, it sounds like something other than what I have been doing. Can anyone, in detail, clarify this move for me as to ensure i'm doing the right thing?? 'Twould be much appreciated.


-Moses


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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:click here.
have fun.

nice sig by the way.


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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soldari
soldari

busy-tofu!
Location: montreal: bagel capital
Member Since: 16th Jul 2003
Total posts: 133
Posted:Hmm, the fountain? let's see...

start by doing the foreard weave (FW) on the side of you body then bring it up, when it gets up there, transform that into a wind-mill (WM), then make it come down on the other side of your body in a reverse weave (RW) and follow that with a split time low turn (STLT) <- I don't know if there's a name for this move.

........WM
..FW......RW
FW..........RW
..FW......RW
......STLT

So it looks like a big weaving circle. Good luck and have fun spinning.


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Rev
Rev

Bastard Newbie Messiah
Location: Apparently lost in my ego
Member Since: 14th Mar 2003
Total posts: 1269
Posted:since when do fountains involve turning and/or windmills... I thought that was something else since a fountian involves doing a weave in teh wall plane where the weave occurs on the sides...

for example.. you do a weave on the left side.. which make a circle on the left side behind you and the weave brings the other circle in fron which you can use to go into the rev weave on the right side making a circle behind you which then comes back to make a circle up front...

you don't ahve to turn or do a windmill.. using a windmill and stuff goes into other moves...


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Deimos
Deimos

Cinnamon Girl
Location: Hfx, NS, Canada
Member Since: 22nd Aug 2003
Total posts: 191
Posted:I was browsing the galleries one and saw a really gorgeous photo of someone spinng in what looked like sort of and elipse shape, and they called it the fountain. I then tried some moves out myself to see if I could get teh same pattern and I wound up with forward weave to reverse weave in a wall plane down real low, then when coming back instead of going low again I did windmill. I like how it flows and me dad said it was pretty so why not? I'm sure everyone has veriations for each move.

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:You're all wrong.

But the split time low turn is a 'watermill'.


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Rev
Rev

Bastard Newbie Messiah
Location: Apparently lost in my ego
Member Since: 14th Mar 2003
Total posts: 1269
Posted:quote:Originally posted by NYC:
You're all wrong.

But the split time low turn is a 'watermill'. care to enlighten us?


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Achluophobia
Magical Sock Dancer
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Member Since: 1st Jul 2003
Total posts: 255
Posted:I'm getting all confussed over this fountain thing. They list a move on www.firechains.com and they call it a fountain, is that what a fountain is?

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Hrmmm... Maybe I disagree with myself about a split time low turn. A watermill is really a windmill below the waist.

I agree 100% with the firechains.com definition. It's a single forward weave, windmill, and reverse weave combo.

Different but similar to a waist wrap which has a carry in it. There is no carry in a fountain.

Do a search though and you can find lots of cool arguements about this move.


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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:NYC, the fountain is not a move but a series of moves connected in succession. It is useless and stupid to name every possible combination of moves.

-NYC


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Charles
Charles

Corporate Circus Arts Entertainer
Location: Auckland
Member Since: 27th Jun 2001
Total posts: 3989
Posted:NYC no personal attacks please, not even on yourself!



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Achluophobia
Magical Sock Dancer
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Member Since: 1st Jul 2003
Total posts: 255
Posted:Odd mine seems too be a forward weave to windmill then back to a forward weave. Must try this some more tomorrow.

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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Indeed you are correct, but only partially. I was wrong about calling the fountain a 'move'... that part is true as it is, indeed, a combination of moves. BUT it is useful to name because it is such a common combination of beginner moves that it is easier to discuss if named.

Also, perhaps we should stop discussing the 'fountain' as it tends to aggrivate our schitzophrenia as well as decreasing our ability to spel.


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Achluophobia
Magical Sock Dancer
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Member Since: 1st Jul 2003
Total posts: 255
Posted:My spelling is bad no matter what.
NYC aren't you that fellow who's really good with wraps?


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soldari
soldari

busy-tofu!
Location: montreal: bagel capital
Member Since: 16th Jul 2003
Total posts: 133
Posted:And I thought fountains went all around... oh well.

who am I to take the advice of a schizophrenic spinner who disagrees with himself and can't even spell


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NYC
NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Member Since: 26th Aug 2001
Total posts: 9232
Posted:Ah... I am being yelled at. By 'a watermill is a windmill below the waist' I was not specific. Though the poi can be either spun with or without going between the legs, a watermill is done by actually going between the legs to come out the other side, exactly like a windmill is done behind the head.

So, for glass' sake:

'A watermill is a windmill below the waist'

should actually read

'A watermill is a windmill below the waist'

Oh wait, it already does.


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moses
member
Location: murray UT
Member Since: 18th Aug 2003
Total posts: 30
Posted:i invented my own version of a 'fountain' anyway just last night, so i'm satisfied calling that a fountain. Maybe the 'fountain' is more a state of mind, more like an abstract way of life with dissectional realism mixed with undeniably second-hand infatuation.

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