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Mozy
BRONZE Member since Apr 2003

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Posted:I know this question most likly been ask before but i had no time to do a search sorry!

How do you do the 4beat ttn?... would someone beable to help me out please, i would greatly appreciate it

THANX Loki


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DeepSoulSheep
GOLD Member since Sep 2002

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Posted:Dude, you should really do the search, there's the reward of a video that goes with the explaination if you do...

I live in a world of infinite possibilities.

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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:the above.... not sure if you will find a video though it died along with my server a while ago... i could right now quickly make one.... *back in a while*

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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:right click this link and *save the target as* 4beat ttn video

i just made this especially for you.

if you learn this move, learn it in split time too.... the ratio from same time to split time in this move makes the 4 beat ttn same time to 6 beat ttn split time. have fun


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In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

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NYC


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Posted:What's a waist wrap?

{Expects my own custom made video to explain}

Also, please explain:
Apple pie
Lobster ravioli
Pad Thai

{Expects the above to be made and mailed to him}


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:1: get ****ed actuall i cut that off the end of that video i just made just your luck.

2: their all bloody minging. [wheres that make myself sick at the thought of horrid food icon? ]


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In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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NYC


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Posted:Minging? Isn't that some Chinese Vase or something?

English... speak English.


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:ming vase, though they do look minging, wonder if theres a cross definition there some where.

and i am speaking english god damnit.... couldnt be doing with any of this english american dialect crap you guys have over there, not even propper english is it


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In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

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Posted:sounds like scottish to me mate...

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Posted:'couldnt be doing with'? I have no idea what that means but I'll nod and smile anyway.

Propper is improper, it's proper.


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:lol


wow 20 downloads on this video since yesterday


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Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

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DeepSoulSheep
GOLD Member since Sep 2002

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Posted:If a split-time TTN is just TTN on it's side, then where do the extra 2 beats come from to get from 4 - 6 beats on the split time?

I can't really understand it cause I can't manage the split time one yet. If anyone's interested Bassman has a great description typed out if you search for it.


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coleman
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Posted:sorry bout that pk - i had to download it 19 times to all the different pc's in my office

dss - yeah the split-time ttn is a normal one on its side but its still a different move - the changed orientation of the arms makes it so. its analogous to saying the corkscrew is just a weave on its side - which of course it kind of is, but if thats so, why don't we spin it three beat like we do vertical weaves?

split-time ttn would be identical to the regular one on its side if you span it with one hand above the other and on the ttn, thread the hands from the left side to the right and vice versa (the on the side equivalent of the normal above and below threading motion).
but that would be super awkward as you arms don't come directly out from your chest and stomach.
its a case of the limited 'all poi is a variation on one move' theory.

as for the beats, i'm crap at counting but remember any split-time bf move has crossover at the sides rather than the top and bottom.
so to get the same beats as with normal bf you would have to count at the sides rather than the bottom - even rob ain't crazy enough to count @ the sides!? mind you, the gandini's did it...
anyway, i think we get a weird count due to the arm orientation reason i mentioned before.
i have to admit that when i'm spinning a split-time ttn it feels like 1 1/2 normal ttn's. i can't count it at all though so i don't know if i'm doing the double one or not...

pk - any idea how many beats is it if you count this at the top (seriously man - i'd like to know if it makes any difference).

[ 11. June 2003, 04:10: Message edited by: coleman ]


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they do porridge."
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Glåss
DIAMOND Member since Nov 2001

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Posted:NYC
quote: What's a waist wrap?

{Expects my own custom made video to explain} ...Didn't you already get that??


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NYC


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Posted:No.

Well, Yes but I couldn't watch it due to technical difficulties with the abacus that I call a computer.

I don't think I ever did get it... thought I do remember you sending it.

Remind me... ? Resend maybe?


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:yeah, the split time variation is counted differently, its exactly the same hand movements [remember to rock hands side to side] as the same time 4 beat version.
if you count the top [ignore gandini's side counting crap] then it adds 2 beats on top of the 4 to make a total of 6, if like me when you learn this move for the first time in split time, you realise that your only doing part of the split time TTN, it took me ages to figure i can mirror the hand possition with the other hand, thanks to dan and his pointer that i was missing that, and deep discussion on the board some where we counted it to 6 beats.... dont ask for a recount as it aint gonna happen.
if you learn forwards and reverse and do a split time TTN weave you can do it 5 beat.... looks tasty, but your gonna have to buy col4 if you want a vid of me doing it.
enough vid making for one day and too much php scripts to last me a life time.


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"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

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Mozy
BRONZE Member since Apr 2003

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Posted:Hey PK...thanx for the little vid...but sorry to say i haven't yet seen it yet cause computer difficulties...sorry but i will see it tomorrow and thats a promise...friends computer . I can't wait to see it...i have been trying for the past couple of weeks to understand on how to do. Thanx to you i will master it muwahahahaha

P.S Totaly out of the blue here but i've got Scottish in me so don't pick on us

Once again thanx PK...i owe you one!!!

Loki


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PK_
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Posted:hehe no probs

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"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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Mozy
BRONZE Member since Apr 2003

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Posted:HEHE I have watched that vid many times and i still haven't figured it out...

Made i should stop lerning everything at once and maybe i'll understand it.

Anyway back to the video

Mozy


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PK_
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Posted:i remember that feeling.
dont worry, keep pushing it, you will get there.


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In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

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Posted:"There"? There's a "there"?! Geez, I'd never even thought of trying to get "there". I'm having so much fun "here"...

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DeepSoulSheep
GOLD Member since Sep 2002

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Posted:Don't forget you can also do here and there reverse and in split time.

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Mozy
BRONZE Member since Apr 2003

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Posted:Thanx PK...i really appreciate you helping me out on this...

pissssss...i still haven't got it

But like you said...keep pushing and i'll get there...Thanx PK

Mozy


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PK_
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Posted:passing through with smiles

PK.

"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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Posted:hi Trait.

very kind to offer a video. nice sound on it. no pic. which player do you recommend?
GDivX resigns...

thanks,
stephan


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:media player 9, my premiere had become redundant and i had to make the vid in movie maker so being a WMV format which i hate, it only runs in media player.
its availiable from microsoft downloads.


PK.

"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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primative_toys


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Posted:hey are u guys just talkin bout double thread, soz i cant watch vid, so visuals cant be of assistance, like, umm same princibles as 5 beat weave just butterflied, otherwise im going to have to find a comp to download this interesting new ttn.,,
happy hunting
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PKPKPK ;;; thanks for making me pik up poi in ur kitchen that night, ive come a long way in a short time, im doin fkn workshops now, i love it.. cheers man


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PK_
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

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Posted:glad to have forced you into it, was a most enjoyable night. be kewl hope your travels are endless and full of making people smile

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In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."

*Francois Couperin.

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