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arashiPooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx


Posted:
edit; okay glass just smacked me in the head with the obvious notion that inverted means upside down as well as the definition i went by, in which inverted means; reversed, in a contrary direction. so i am considering changing my terminology, but i have edited this to make sense with the stuff in the trinity thread. i'm just warning you that i may change this post when i get the time to give a flying fart. anyway this will make sense for a little while til i can change things to confuse you again wink



first, the crossed arm inverted weaves, which add two beats to a odd number weave...

the counting on this is pretty tricky, since it comes out of a weave that already has beats. in general for beat counts i go by the # of beats on each side of the crossover, since that way you don't have to be symmetrical to have it make sense. but the crossover happens at the entrance into the inversion so i label the inverted weave by which weave position you came into it from. there's so many variations that this may make sense later.

first, try the 3 beat inverted weave, which is



3 beat weave, but the crossover goes between your arms instead of to the other side. your arms, you will notice, are crossed, so you have to do an split time isolation with both hands so the chains don't wrap your arms.



next try it out of the five beat, which makes a 5 beat inverted weave.



insides are like buzzsaws but are not between your arms, they are between your arms and your body. take a buzzsaw in front, and drop your hands to your sides. now the wicks come under your armpits, and the chains are inside your arms. you can take a bfly or a spider and inside them, so if you do a bfly in front, you bend forward and do it inbetween your arms and your tummy. do them in the side plane, too.

now if you take a buzzsaw, do it inside at your side, and the take it around your back, keeping the same buzzsaw plane direction the whole time, you have a BTB inside. now try that, with an inverted weave instead of a buzzsaw. ouch. wear a cup. or "box" if your british tongue



I have edited this title and post and cut out all the "buzzsaw" terms. Hope this makes more sense now!

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RicheeBRONZE Member
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Posted:
Brothers, do not have words within each other, be good to yourself smile,

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RevBRONZE Member
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Posted:
people always talk about wanting to see some inversions.. well here you go.. (right click save as.. ) various same direction inversions

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oliSILVER Member
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Posted:
hehe smile thanks for that clip rev i like your horizontal inversions alot ...

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RicheeBRONZE Member
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Posted:
Rev - You got camera right, so dont wast your time and show us the truth smile, Im expecting a lot smile



Edit: I saw inversions, nice how your hands are twistin smile.



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linden rathenGOLD Member
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Posted:
cool thanks rev smile *wanders off to repeatadly hit himself with Poi

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RovoGOLD Member
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Location: Austin, TX, USA


Posted:
I just posted a practice vid in the videos section of me spinning what I beleive to be atomic. I really don't know though. I was told on another site it might be boxspinning or trinity but honestly I have no idea. I know the differences between all of it but I'm not so sure and spinning like this is really hard to describe. It's still pretty new to me. I feel like I am taking every move I know and breaking it into peices and reassembling it into sp,ething entirely different.

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oliSILVER Member
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Location: bristol/ southern eastern devon, United Kingdom


Posted:
looks kinda atomic to me... but its hardd to tell, looks pretty weird though which is good smile

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no


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Posted:
Rovo, dats exactly what it feels like.

enyone who got themselves a 'natural' feeling of doing atomics should be burried without food.

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RovoGOLD Member
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544 posts
Location: Austin, TX, USA


Posted:
Now that I understand it, I think it feels natural. In fact it keeps spoiling my other moves because they are slipping into atomics sometimes. I never understood why people liked atoms but I guess I never understoof how many different things you can do with them. I have just begun to start incoporating it into other moves and going over the shoulder and stuff and it's crazy. It's like having a new way to do all the other patternes you know. Plus this has given me so much more control over the Poi. I can't wait to try this with fire! Hopefully I'll be able to borrow the camera for that.

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spiralxveteran
1,376 posts
Location: London, UK


Posted:
It sort of feels natural once you get used to it, like a wonky TTN, but then as soon as you turn it feels completely different and goes all crap. Of course it'd help if I practised it more smile

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mcpPLATINUM Member
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Posted:
yeah, turning is the next trick...

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RevBRONZE Member
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Posted:
imo its just the same dirction corners that are tricky.. you can ttn the other ones all day.. the same ones though is where your planes want to get wonky becase your body is like 'they are moving roughly this way anyway'.. I would just pick two adjacent corners.. and work different threading techniques between them since its a sd and an opposite.. and then work your way up to various sets of 3 corners.. and by then you'll pretty much have it ..

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DrudwynForget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
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Location: Southampton Uni


Posted:
*bump*

Right, time to learn atomics and inversions.

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arashiPooh-Bah
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Location: austin,tx


Posted:
online vids soon... one more film shoot left...

-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.


[Nx?]BRONZE Member
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Posted:
*blinks*

cool!

wow

*rubs eyes*

yeah

*collapses once more*

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spiralxveteran
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Location: London, UK


Posted:
Arashi? Videos? Blimus! I might have to start spinning Poi again!

"Moo," said the happy cow.


colemanSILVER Member
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Posted:
i'm not going to try and hold my breath again... wink

hug


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RevBRONZE Member
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Posted:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Cole.. you're the best.. hug

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spiralxveteran
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Posted:
LOL smile

"Moo," said the happy cow.


arashiPooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx


Posted:
rolleyes

i _promise_ one day all my empty promises will come to promiscuity wink

i wish i only had myself to blame. luckily my slackerness is everyone else's fault. biggrin especially bluecat's, he MADE me drop everything and spend an incredible amount of money and time traipsing around the HILLS of Europe ubbrollsmile
ubblol feel free to throw money and wine and women at me as motivation. poibox had the right idea ubblove

-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.


bluecatgeek, level 1
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Posted:
( mwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!)

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LazyAngelGOLD Member
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Posted:
for Arashi:
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Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant

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bluecatgeek, level 1
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Posted:

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and


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RevBRONZE Member
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Posted:
Written by: arashi


feel free to throw money and wine and women at me as motivation




So that's the secret... I was wondering why I was ful of empty promises too.. Now I know why.. And here I thought I was just being lazy/busy..

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arashiPooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx


Posted:
my god is that traci lords and her mom in the photo? nice touch. wink

allright, i'm changing my needs. be specific, my guru says. more than wine money and women i need a good concrete huffin slave who can make compound birdmouth cuts for rafters, someone who can set the action on 1920 steinway grand pianos faster than me, matt to return my email, and 500 people to come to my bassnectar party next week (instead of my projected 250)

either that or some patient friends. my photo shoot keeps getting pushed back... but after the party next weeek it is ON... i suppose it's all for the best, my isolated atomic weaves need some refresher time.

-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.


TheWibblerGOLD Member
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Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Arashi, i totally ofrgot to reply to you, i'm off to oz on wednesday, i'll find your email and reply tomorrow i promise.

web access here sucks ass,

m

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TheWibblerGOLD Member
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920 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
okay so i just lost 45 mins worth of in depth reply to you pm on sphism, F%&$%*%*%&

i'll re write it tomorrow

nite

m

frown

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shen shuiSILVER Member
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Posted:
that sucks.

those that know, dont say. those that say, dont know.


arashiPooh-Bah
2,364 posts
Location: austin,tx


Posted:
that may be okay... we can narrow my letter down to the scrying pool, we've got someone to do the animation of the heart thing. hope that helps shorten your letter hug

-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.


[Nx?]BRONZE Member
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Posted:
ok, non sequiter anyone?

meg too right, turning is the trick.

l*r

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