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arashi


arashi

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Posted:edit; okay glass just smacked me in the head with the obvious notion that inverted means upside down as well as the definition i went by, in which inverted means; reversed, in a contrary direction. so i am considering changing my terminology, but i have edited this to make sense with the stuff in the trinity thread. i'm just warning you that i may change this post when i get the time to give a flying fart. anyway this will make sense for a little while til i can change things to confuse you again wink



first, the crossed arm inverted weaves, which add two beats to a odd number weave...

the counting on this is pretty tricky, since it comes out of a weave that already has beats. in general for beat counts i go by the # of beats on each side of the crossover, since that way you don't have to be symmetrical to have it make sense. but the crossover happens at the entrance into the inversion so i label the inverted weave by which weave position you came into it from. there's so many variations that this may make sense later.

first, try the 3 beat inverted weave, which is



3 beat weave, but the crossover goes between your arms instead of to the other side. your arms, you will notice, are crossed, so you have to do an split time isolation with both hands so the chains don't wrap your arms.



next try it out of the five beat, which makes a 5 beat inverted weave.



insides are like buzzsaws but are not between your arms, they are between your arms and your body. take a buzzsaw in front, and drop your hands to your sides. now the wicks come under your armpits, and the chains are inside your arms. you can take a bfly or a spider and inside them, so if you do a bfly in front, you bend forward and do it inbetween your arms and your tummy. do them in the side plane, too.

now if you take a buzzsaw, do it inside at your side, and the take it around your back, keeping the same buzzsaw plane direction the whole time, you have a BTB inside. now try that, with an inverted weave instead of a buzzsaw. ouch. wear a cup. or "box" if your british tongue



I have edited this title and post and cut out all the "buzzsaw" terms. Hope this makes more sense now!

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Richee
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Posted:Brothers, do not have words within each other, be good to yourself smile,

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Rev
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Posted:people always talk about wanting to see some inversions.. well here you go.. (right click save as.. ) various same direction inversions

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oli
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Posted:hehe smile thanks for that clip rev i like your horizontal inversions alot ...

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They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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Richee
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Posted:Rev - You got camera right, so dont wast your time and show us the truth smile, Im expecting a lot smile



Edit: I saw inversions, nice how your hands are twistin smile.



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linden rathen
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linden rathen

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Posted:cool thanks rev smile *wanders off to repeatadly hit himself with poi

back

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Rovo
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Rovo

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Location: Austin, TX, USA

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Posted:I just posted a practice vid in the videos section of me spinning what I beleive to be atomic. I really don't know though. I was told on another site it might be boxspinning or trinity but honestly I have no idea. I know the differences between all of it but I'm not so sure and spinning like this is really hard to describe. It's still pretty new to me. I feel like I am taking every move I know and breaking it into peices and reassembling it into sp,ething entirely different.

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oli
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Posted:looks kinda atomic to me... but its hardd to tell, looks pretty weird though which is good smile

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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Posted:Rovo, dats exactly what it feels like.

enyone who got themselves a 'natural' feeling of doing atomics should be burried without food.

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Rovo
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Posted:Now that I understand it, I think it feels natural. In fact it keeps spoiling my other moves because they are slipping into atomics sometimes. I never understood why people liked atoms but I guess I never understoof how many different things you can do with them. I have just begun to start incoporating it into other moves and going over the shoulder and stuff and it's crazy. It's like having a new way to do all the other patternes you know. Plus this has given me so much more control over the poi. I can't wait to try this with fire! Hopefully I'll be able to borrow the camera for that.

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spiralx


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Posted:It sort of feels natural once you get used to it, like a wonky TTN, but then as soon as you turn it feels completely different and goes all crap. Of course it'd help if I practised it more smile

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mcp
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Posted:yeah, turning is the next trick...

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Rev
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Posted:imo its just the same dirction corners that are tricky.. you can ttn the other ones all day.. the same ones though is where your planes want to get wonky becase your body is like 'they are moving roughly this way anyway'.. I would just pick two adjacent corners.. and work different threading techniques between them since its a sd and an opposite.. and then work your way up to various sets of 3 corners.. and by then you'll pretty much have it ..

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Posted:*bump*

Right, time to learn atomics and inversions.


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arashi


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Posted:online vids soon... one more film shoot left...

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-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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Posted:*blinks*

cool!

wow

*rubs eyes*

yeah

*collapses once more*

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Posted:Arashi? Videos? Blimus! I might have to start spinning poi again!

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coleman
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Posted:i'm not going to try and hold my breath again... wink

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Rev
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Posted:BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Cole.. you're the best.. hug


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Posted:LOL smile

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arashi


arashi

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Posted:rolleyes

i _promise_ one day all my empty promises will come to promiscuity wink

i wish i only had myself to blame. luckily my slackerness is everyone else's fault. biggrin especially bluecat's, he MADE me drop everything and spend an incredible amount of money and time traipsing around the HILLS of Europe ubbrollsmile
ubblol feel free to throw money and wine and women at me as motivation. poibox had the right idea ubblove


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-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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Posted:( mwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!)

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Posted:for Arashi:
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Because ActiveAngel sounds like a feminine deodorant

Like sex, I'm much more interesting in real life than online.

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Rev
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Posted:Written by: arashi

feel free to throw money and wine and women at me as motivation



So that's the secret... I was wondering why I was ful of empty promises too.. Now I know why.. And here I thought I was just being lazy/busy..


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arashi


arashi

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Posted:my god is that traci lords and her mom in the photo? nice touch. wink

allright, i'm changing my needs. be specific, my guru says. more than wine money and women i need a good concrete huffin slave who can make compound birdmouth cuts for rafters, someone who can set the action on 1920 steinway grand pianos faster than me, matt to return my email, and 500 people to come to my bassnectar party next week (instead of my projected 250)

either that or some patient friends. my photo shoot keeps getting pushed back... but after the party next weeek it is ON... i suppose it's all for the best, my isolated atomic weaves need some refresher time.


-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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TheWibbler
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Posted:Arashi, i totally ofrgot to reply to you, i'm off to oz on wednesday, i'll find your email and reply tomorrow i promise.

web access here sucks ass,

m


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TheWibbler
GOLD Member since Apr 2003

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Posted:okay so i just lost 45 mins worth of in depth reply to you pm on sphism, F%&$%*%*%&

i'll re write it tomorrow

nite

m

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shen shui
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shen shui

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Posted:that sucks.

those that know, dont say. those that say, dont know.

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arashi


arashi

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Posted:that may be okay... we can narrow my letter down to the scrying pool, we've got someone to do the animation of the heart thing. hope that helps shorten your letter hug

-Such a price the gods exact for song: to become what we sing
-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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Posted:ok, non sequiter anyone?

meg too right, turning is the trick.

l*r

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