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NYC


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NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA

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Posted:If you speed up the hand that is extended on a 4 beat TTN to double-time (do two quick rotations in the time it takes your closer hand to do one rotation) you can cheat and make a 6 beat Thread the Needle. Actually, the extended arm is free to spin as many times as it pleases while the close arm goes around. By varying the tempo of the outstreched arm you can add as many extra rotations as you'd like. I'm not sure if this would qualify as "beats" since you're really just adding quicker rotations. It's more like taking a full beat and breaking it down into two, quick tempo half beats...


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MrConfused
BRONZE Member since Jan 2002

MrConfused

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Posted:With short chains, you can put extra revolutions into the poi that is spinning closer to your body as well.

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NYC


NYC

NYC
Location: NYC, NY, USA

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Posted:If you do the rotation above/outside your arm?

That's really cheating.


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Glåss
BRONZE Member since Mar 2017

Glåss

The Ministry of Manipulation
Location: Bristol

Total posts: 2523
Posted:Damn bloody cheats!!
give all us honst spinner a bad name


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Dom
BRONZE Member since Dec 2001

Dom

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Bristol, UK

Total posts: 3009
Posted:I call cheat too! It's not really a proper 6 beat as it ain't balanced.

But keep playing with speed as I reckon it's something not enough people mess about with. Took me a while but now I can pretty much move my hands independently of each other time wise. And seperating out poi to orbit each other like Ow suggests is possible in most moves and looks cool as! From butterfly I take one poi out to the sides, above, below, orbit all around, a cascade with isolations, etc... almost endless possibilities!


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MrConfused
BRONZE Member since Jan 2002

MrConfused

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Posted:Not entirely sure what all the "beat" stuff is about, but if it looks good, why not?

J


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DJ Dantana
BRONZE Member since Aug 2001

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Location: Stillwater, Ok. USA

Total posts: 1495
Posted:wow, I was like doing that just last night. the cheat six beat that is.

Maybe a little different though, cause I was doing regular time, and was going in and out of split time. I like variations.


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Dut
SILVER Member since Mar 2002

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Location: Nashville, TN

Total posts: 380
Posted:These 'cheat beats' look really hot outside either side of a regular three beat weave as well.

I learned these on accident the first time i was trying to learn the reverse five beat weave by trying to add in the extra beat with the wrong hand. The version i do from a forward weave puts the extra beat under each arm.

I also don't think i've seen these in any videos. then again, i probably haven't been paying enough attention, much less watching the right videos. Drop a link if you spot one in the wild, please. =)

And dropping these on butterfly moves is completely beyond me at this point...

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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay

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Posted:quote:Originally posted by Dom:
It's not really a proper 6 beat as it ain't balanced.kinda like the 3bt weave ain't balanced...?
sorry, i couldn't resist! please don't hurt me mr dom. eeeep.

and dut - what you are talking about you can't really apply to bf like that.
to drop in extra beats you have to speed up one hand (or slow down the other).

someone that taught me just about everything else pointed out to me the other night that if you do a giant butterfly with just one arm (full arm circle) and you keep both of your poi going at a constant speed (linear *not* radial) your other poi has time to do two circles (wrist circles).

its only a little thing but as with the classic club swinging style, most spinners tend to keep their swinging things @ the same radial velocities (meaning they both take the same amount of time to complete a circle, no matter what size it is).
so if you're used to that, this is quite weird


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NickC


Monkey Wrangler
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Total posts: 183
Posted:This thread seems relevant to 'release' my 'signature move'. Reverse 3 beat half giant thread the needle. Do a regular reverse 3 bt ttn but during the 3rd beat, the arm that is on top swings out giant, and comes back around the other side under your left hand. Repeat with opposite hands to the 'other side'. I find it looks cool when you sway to the left for your right hand going giant and to the right for you left hand.

Ps. I'm sure someone else has thought of this before.


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