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9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
In my quest for a presentable 5 beat weave I've been playing with adding more beats through European style (non-recoil or non-raver) wraps.
[Yes, I've dubbed a term and I'm sure I'll get my butt kicked for it but it seems that when Europeans call something a wrap it's the move where you wind an extra beat around a body part and then move the body part to unwind without recoiling. And besides, Orange taught me my first wrap like that and he's from Europe, or at least the UK. The recoil type, glowstick raver-wraps are quite different. Are we cool with this? Fine, moving on...]
Aside from adding beats to weaves, what else can these wraps be used for? I know the neck wrap (tilt head forward, tilt head back)... any other jenre of moves that this trick lends itself to?
In related news: Damn, life is so much easier if you use longer poi. Just pulled off my first 9 beat (2 wraps + 5 beat + 2 wraps) and it almost looked pretty. With speading up the non-wrapping poi to match the increasing speed of the wrapping poi it might actually look decent.
In unrelated news: Have still not mastered the 5 beat reverse BUT am much more familiar with the back of my head (ouch!)
In my quest for a presentable 5 beat weave I've been playing with adding more beats through European style (non-recoil or non-raver) wraps.
[Yes, I've dubbed a term and I'm sure I'll get my butt kicked for it but it seems that when Europeans call something a wrap it's the move where you wind an extra beat around a body part and then move the body part to unwind without recoiling. And besides, Orange taught me my first wrap like that and he's from Europe, or at least the UK. The recoil type, glowstick raver-wraps are quite different. Are we cool with this? Fine, moving on...]
Aside from adding beats to weaves, what else can these wraps be used for? I know the neck wrap (tilt head forward, tilt head back)... any other jenre of moves that this trick lends itself to?
In related news: Damn, life is so much easier if you use longer poi. Just pulled off my first 9 beat (2 wraps + 5 beat + 2 wraps) and it almost looked pretty. With speading up the non-wrapping poi to match the increasing speed of the wrapping poi it might actually look decent.
In unrelated news: Have still not mastered the 5 beat reverse BUT am much more familiar with the back of my head (ouch!)
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
Oh snap... hells yeah.
You can thread the needle, wrap one arm then turn 180 and unwrap in reverse thread the needle.
WHY DIDN'T YOU PEOPLE TELL ME THIS?!
Damn, it's a whole new genre to me! Curse you Jedi for keeping this secret from us mortals!
Oh snap... hells yeah.
You can thread the needle, wrap one arm then turn 180 and unwrap in reverse thread the needle.
WHY DIDN'T YOU PEOPLE TELL ME THIS?!
Damn, it's a whole new genre to me! Curse you Jedi for keeping this secret from us mortals!
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
SILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom
Posted:
erm... morning coffee (5:08)
edit: also @ (5:16) mr bluecat does a nice 'carry-through' (european) wrap btl.
[ 06. March 2003, 12:42: Message edited by: coleman ]
erm... morning coffee (5:08)
edit: also @ (5:16) mr bluecat does a nice 'carry-through' (european) wrap btl.
[ 06. March 2003, 12:42: Message edited by: coleman ]
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
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Liquid Cow
2,629 posts
Location: High Wycombe, England
Liquid Cow
2,629 posts
Location: High Wycombe, England
Posted:
I now really like wraps
I was playing with them a bit yesterday but I find it really hard to get the timing right if I'm adding wrapped beats into the weave, 1 poi always ends up catching the other one.
I find the best wraps I do only ever happen by accident, and I very rarely work out what happened afterwards
Throwing in a bit of semantics, I now call wraps that don't involve the poi stopping 'wraps' and those that do involve the poi stopping 'wrap stops'.
That tends to make things much easier to describe since I'm usually not good at explaining things
I now really like wraps
I was playing with them a bit yesterday but I find it really hard to get the timing right if I'm adding wrapped beats into the weave, 1 poi always ends up catching the other one.
I find the best wraps I do only ever happen by accident, and I very rarely work out what happened afterwards
Throwing in a bit of semantics, I now call wraps that don't involve the poi stopping 'wraps' and those that do involve the poi stopping 'wrap stops'.
That tends to make things much easier to describe since I'm usually not good at explaining things
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
Maybe some day I will posess the technology to view "Morning Coffee"... I'm quite certain my computer would flat out slap me if I tried to download another audio or video application, let alone a file transfer program. I guess I'll have to wait for COL4.
Maybe some day I will posess the technology to view "Morning Coffee"... I'm quite certain my computer would flat out slap me if I tried to download another audio or video application, let alone a file transfer program. I guess I'll have to wait for COL4.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
NYC
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
9,232 posts
Location: NYC, NY, USA
Posted:
Oops. I video taped myself. Turns out, since I had only been wraping and unwraping my left arm I was actually doing 8 and 10 beat "weaves". I've never actually done a 9 beat.
I'm a liar.
Looks more like 2+4+2 on each side if I wrap once and 4+4+4 if I wrap twice on just my left arm. I forgot that each wrap actually adds two beats. Wait, that's 12. (Runs to videotape self again...) Yup, OK, I did a 12 beat weave. Poorly and not in perfect split time yet. Wow, that sounds way cooler than it is.
OK, I'll shut up now.
Oops. I video taped myself. Turns out, since I had only been wraping and unwraping my left arm I was actually doing 8 and 10 beat "weaves". I've never actually done a 9 beat.
I'm a liar.
Looks more like 2+4+2 on each side if I wrap once and 4+4+4 if I wrap twice on just my left arm. I forgot that each wrap actually adds two beats. Wait, that's 12. (Runs to videotape self again...) Yup, OK, I did a 12 beat weave. Poorly and not in perfect split time yet. Wow, that sounds way cooler than it is.
OK, I'll shut up now.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
BRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK
Posted:
Wraps go into almost every move: corkscrew; btb waistwrap (which is a current favourite of mine); btl butterflys alternating the poi btl as you step; butterfly to your sides then wrap each poi on it's own arm and turn (with long poi you can completely wrap around the arm once or even twice); etc...
In related news I've mananged to pull off a couple of 9 beat weaves, with no wraps Them extra elbows coming in use again
Wraps go into almost every move: corkscrew; btb waistwrap (which is a current favourite of mine); btl butterflys alternating the poi btl as you step; butterfly to your sides then wrap each poi on it's own arm and turn (with long poi you can completely wrap around the arm once or even twice); etc...
In related news I've mananged to pull off a couple of 9 beat weaves, with no wraps Them extra elbows coming in use again
addict
522 posts
Location: Sheffield
522 posts
Location: Sheffield
Posted:
ya lanky git
ya lanky git
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Mand's Girl....and The Not So Shy One
2,723 posts
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Mand's Girl....and The Not So Shy One
2,723 posts
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada
Posted:
Dom...you make me feel unworthy!
I've only recently gotten a decent 5 beat weave and the extra beat corkscrew. The extra beat windmill is getting there, but not nearly as smooth.
I think I should have followed Cass's lead and followed you around the globe!
Arg...never mind the fact that my timing is still off on reverse thread the needle.
They tell me I'm a really good spinner...I think I have them fooled.
Dom...you make me feel unworthy!
I've only recently gotten a decent 5 beat weave and the extra beat corkscrew. The extra beat windmill is getting there, but not nearly as smooth.
I think I should have followed Cass's lead and followed you around the globe!
Arg...never mind the fact that my timing is still off on reverse thread the needle.
They tell me I'm a really good spinner...I think I have them fooled.
Solitude sometimes speaks to you, and you should listen.
member
167 posts
Location: Bergen , Norway
167 posts
Location: Bergen , Norway
Posted:
why not get it on the PC and post it for us?.....
I would really like to see a 8-10 beat weave...never seen one before......
Peace
quote:hmmm......where is the video the .....I dont see a video anywhere
Originally posted by NYC:
Oops. I video taped myself. Turns out, since I had only been wraping and unwraping my left arm I was actually doing 8 and 10 beat "weaves". I've never actually done a 9 beat.
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why not get it on the PC and post it for us?.....
I would really like to see a 8-10 beat weave...never seen one before......
Peace
I like Fire.. :)
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