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Posted:Throughout the world of poi there walk a breed aside from other moves. Many have claimed that they don’t exist, or that they did, but that they died out with some long lost tribe of poi masters, and now they are “just legends”. But, they exist, and not just in the fairy tales we tell young poisters and poiettes to make then scared of the bogie poi that live under their beds.
The Jedi set are the most technical of the most technical moves.
The Jedi set are the poi swinging moves which defy the known laws of the physical world.
For everyone of them, at the moment only a handful are known, is utterly a Jedi move.
Until recently the easiest known move in the the jedi set was a 5 beat weave to reverse 5 beat weave behind the back, preferably done in the wall plane. And yet some exciting new discoveries uncovered using the latest state of the are technology in archeopoilogy. New additions have been threatening to join the ranks of the Jedi set, The Eight Council of Poi demi-gods are currently in congress to determine the place if any of these exciting new finds which include 2 air wraps within the Jedi set.
Not everything is known of the origins of the Jedi set. But it is much hinted in pagan folklaw, that in days of old back in martober two mysterious men, possibly of a tribe of orangeness denoted by their attire met in a misty field in Clay-pham a small village near Londinium. And lo, One of them who may have been the legendary Jedi Tony Touch spaketh unto the other, (the ugly stupid one with poor personal hygiene) who is, it is rumoured to be a distant forefather of the author. (alas the lineage has never been proven).
“That move is utterly Jedi.”
And to the sounds of trumpets from between the legs of a chorus of angels, the Jedi set was gently placed by a large crane amongst the meeting of poiers.
And the quest began...
That was many moons ago, and little remains to document what happened in that original quest...
The Jedi set are the most technical of the most technical moves.
The Jedi set are the poi swinging moves which defy the known laws of the physical world.
For everyone of them, at the moment only a handful are known, is utterly a Jedi move.
Until recently the easiest known move in the the jedi set was a 5 beat weave to reverse 5 beat weave behind the back, preferably done in the wall plane. And yet some exciting new discoveries uncovered using the latest state of the are technology in archeopoilogy. New additions have been threatening to join the ranks of the Jedi set, The Eight Council of Poi demi-gods are currently in congress to determine the place if any of these exciting new finds which include 2 air wraps within the Jedi set.
Not everything is known of the origins of the Jedi set. But it is much hinted in pagan folklaw, that in days of old back in martober two mysterious men, possibly of a tribe of orangeness denoted by their attire met in a misty field in Clay-pham a small village near Londinium. And lo, One of them who may have been the legendary Jedi Tony Touch spaketh unto the other, (the ugly stupid one with poor personal hygiene) who is, it is rumoured to be a distant forefather of the author. (alas the lineage has never been proven).
“That move is utterly Jedi.”
And to the sounds of trumpets from between the legs of a chorus of angels, the Jedi set was gently placed by a large crane amongst the meeting of poiers.
And the quest began...
That was many moons ago, and little remains to document what happened in that original quest...
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Posted: Written by: fireNice
I discovered this weekend I can do double neck wraps with fire
not for the faint of heart though
with a single poi or as the uber-insane butterfly type?
if you have a nice rope dart - you can do 3
I discovered this weekend I can do double neck wraps with fire
not for the faint of heart though
with a single poi or as the uber-insane butterfly type?
if you have a nice rope dart - you can do 3
"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
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Posted:He did the uber-insane double butterfly neck wrap........it was mighty impressive 
My ADD makes it so that.....Ooooo SHINY.....wanna go ride bikes....wait....where am I.....
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Posted:fireNice didn't you use the really big monkey fists heads to do the double bf neck wrap?
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Loki wherever did you get the idea for a move like the mouth bf to mouth btb bf?
Oh and Loki it looks like we'll be having 4 or possibly 5 Ohioians joining us this weekend. If JT comes there'll be about 10 fire performers all gathering in the mountains near my town. Whiskeytown shall live again! 
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Loki wherever did you get the idea for a move like the mouth bf to mouth btb bf?
Oh and Loki it looks like we'll be having 4 or possibly 5 Ohioians joining us this weekend. If JT comes there'll be about 10 fire performers all gathering in the mountains near my town. Whiskeytown shall live again!
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Posted:no, big cathedrals, on longish chains
I do love my big monkeys though....gotta love that burn time
I do love my big monkeys though....gotta love that burn time
kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more
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Posted: AHHHHH YES!!!!!! Full credit must go to Rovo! Afterall it was his smartass who saw me doing a bunch of one handed stuff and said how about mouth bf and then even that wasn't good enough once I got it down so he suggested the btb mbf which I will get down so I can do it lit Rovo......oh yes it will be done!
SWEET!!!!!! Hooray Whiskey town part two!!!!!! The sour mash strikes back
AHHHHH YES!!!!!! Full credit must go to Rovo! Afterall it was his smartass who saw me doing a bunch of one handed stuff and said how about mouth bf and then even that wasn't good enough once I got it down so he suggested the btb mbf which I will get down so I can do it lit Rovo......oh yes it will be done! SWEET!!!!!! Hooray Whiskey town part two!!!!!! The sour mash strikes back
My ADD makes it so that.....Ooooo SHINY.....wanna go ride bikes....wait....where am I.....
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Posted:One day I came uppon this thread: The Jedi Set
I was a young and inmature spinner, knowing nothing of the jedi ways. Enthralled I was in what was to become my obesission.
It started with a few video's i found in the forum section here. But I became obsessed, spending many house searching every known website and poi related activities.
In my research of poi video's, desperate forum searching, I picked up an adept student which I em very greatfull for. He learns faster then any I have see.
It was with great frustrations that I hit wall after wall with attempts at revealing just a portion of the jedi set to myself, that I realized I must use the force(?gravity?) to make such realizations....
After long hours of solitary study with only the gods of the green to inlighten me, a partial jedi set was recovered intact....
Finlly another part of the long lost jedi techniques have been revealed to the world....
-BTB 5 Beat Planar Weave Isolations
-BTB 5 Beat Reverse Weave Isolations
-Buzzsaw Isolations
-Anti-Spin Buzzsaw Isolations
-5 Beat Forward/Reverse Weave Isolations.
I hope this submission passes the scruitiny of the HOP masses. For video proof of a few of the jedi set, please visit www.youtube.com/kepki2003 and watch my newer videos.
More evidence is comming once the winter lets up and video can be taken.
HAPPY SPINNING YAL!!
EDITED_BY: kepki2003 (1169354094)
I was a young and inmature spinner, knowing nothing of the jedi ways. Enthralled I was in what was to become my obesission.
It started with a few video's i found in the forum section here. But I became obsessed, spending many house searching every known website and poi related activities.
In my research of poi video's, desperate forum searching, I picked up an adept student which I em very greatfull for. He learns faster then any I have see.
It was with great frustrations that I hit wall after wall with attempts at revealing just a portion of the jedi set to myself, that I realized I must use the force(?gravity?) to make such realizations....
After long hours of solitary study with only the gods of the green to inlighten me, a partial jedi set was recovered intact....
Finlly another part of the long lost jedi techniques have been revealed to the world....
-BTB 5 Beat Planar Weave Isolations
-BTB 5 Beat Reverse Weave Isolations
-Buzzsaw Isolations
-Anti-Spin Buzzsaw Isolations
-5 Beat Forward/Reverse Weave Isolations.
I hope this submission passes the scruitiny of the HOP masses. For video proof of a few of the jedi set, please visit www.youtube.com/kepki2003 and watch my newer videos.
More evidence is comming once the winter lets up and video can be taken.
HAPPY SPINNING YAL!!
EDITED_BY: kepki2003 (1169354094)
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DeletePosted:antispin buzzsaw is isolated 
and buzzsaw isos might've once been jedi but no longer I'm afraid
and buzzsaw isos might've once been jedi but no longer I'm afraid
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lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more
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Posted:the jedi council is dead, the order disbanded and discredited.
besides, none of thoes moves cut it
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besides, none of thoes moves cut it
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This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
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Posted: Written by: [Nx?
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the jedi council is dead, the order disbanded and discredited.
besides, none of thoes moves cut it
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So says Tom who deosn't realise where he is really from.... Europe/ Scotland... Scotland is in Europe. and maybe changing what was once the jedi set might be stupid! when so many people learnt from it!. 
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the jedi council is dead, the order disbanded and discredited.
besides, none of thoes moves cut it
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So says Tom who deosn't realise where he is really from.... Europe/ Scotland...
Scotland is in Europe. and maybe changing what was once the jedi set might be stupid! when so many people learnt from it!. PK.
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In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."
*Francois Couperin.
Posted: Written by: fNi
antispin buzzsaw is isolated
True but you can greatly increase the amount of isolation on an antispin. Normally your hands orbit the center of the antispin in a circular path and the poi heads pass by the center very close to each other.
In a deeply isolated antispin the path of your hands is more of a star shape and the poi heads no longer pass by each other in the center of the pattern, instead they pass by the opposite hand.
I don't have a video camera so I hope this diagram makes sense. (Inkscape rules!)
Non-Https Image Link
(Edit: Behold... animation!)
antispin buzzsaw is isolated
True but you can greatly increase the amount of isolation on an antispin. Normally your hands orbit the center of the antispin in a circular path and the poi heads pass by the center very close to each other.
In a deeply isolated antispin the path of your hands is more of a star shape and the poi heads no longer pass by each other in the center of the pattern, instead they pass by the opposite hand.
I don't have a video camera so I hope this diagram makes sense. (Inkscape rules!)
Non-Https Image Link
(Edit: Behold... animation!
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DeletePosted:I'm outraged that the Jedi Set has been dismantled!! It was a great inspiration to me over the last few years. I REFUSE to accept that the jedi set is dead and forgotten about. Someone must be left to carry on the search! I will greatfully accept this burden of continuing research into the ways of the jedi!
I like the antispin diagrams, very interesting. But give the flowers 6 petals instead of 4 on the antispin iso's.... and you get something much neater.
What moves were once/still are considered jedi?
I like the antispin diagrams, very interesting. But give the flowers 6 petals instead of 4 on the antispin iso's.... and you get something much neater.
What moves were once/still are considered jedi?
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DeletePosted:any thing that NX can't do is Jedi, and every thing that he can do was and still is jedi!!.
PK.
"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."
*Francois Couperin.
Posted:Would a 7 beat butterfly weave fountain be considered Jedi?
Spin, bounce, be one with the world, because it is yours to enjoy...
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Posted:show me at juggling on monday, and i'll tell you
in all honesty, i think the jedi set should be retired. or renamed to be
'these moves were really hard once'
the butterfly weave was hard once
in all honesty, i think the jedi set should be retired. or renamed to be
'these moves were really hard once'
the butterfly weave was hard once
Holistic Spinner (I hope)
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Posted: Written by: Glss
Isolations
Recently sighted on HOP Here
Imagine a buzzsaw, but instead of the poi around the outside and the hands at the middle, the hands and the poi are at the outside of the circle and everything spins around the middle of the poi, continuously. Some days they may be impossible. <img border="0" alt="" title="" src="graemlins/ubblol.gif" />
Bugger that I'm going back to play with my video camera. back in a couple of weeks with another movie
Iso-whats?
Damn, was that really only 2002?
I'll never forget Drew at EJC that year premiering the most pathetic buzzsaw isolations to the draw dropping amazement of us all.
I wonder if Jedi is no longer relevant because the move sets have diverged so much. You need too many hyphens if you're going to claim Jedi these days. As in "isolated-btb-goofy-flowers".
Isolations
Recently sighted on HOP Here
Imagine a buzzsaw, but instead of the poi around the outside and the hands at the middle, the hands and the poi are at the outside of the circle and everything spins around the middle of the poi, continuously. Some days they may be impossible. <img border="0" alt="
" title="" src="graemlins/ubblol.gif" /> Bugger that I'm going back to play with my video camera. back in a couple of weeks with another movie
Iso-whats?
Damn, was that really only 2002?
I'll never forget Drew at EJC that year premiering the most pathetic buzzsaw isolations to the draw dropping amazement of us all.
I wonder if Jedi is no longer relevant because the move sets have diverged so much. You need too many hyphens if you're going to claim Jedi these days. As in "isolated-btb-goofy-flowers".
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
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Posted:we just need new jedi stuff
Faith
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Posted:See NYC's post.
Any sort of 'hard' poi stuff now isn't about a single move anyway, it's about taking old moves and constructing them in such a way that the patterns are more complex and/or better looking than before.
Any sort of 'hard' poi stuff now isn't about a single move anyway, it's about taking old moves and constructing them in such a way that the patterns are more complex and/or better looking than before.
To do: More Firedrums 08 video?
Wildfire/US East coast fire footage
LA/EDC glow/fire footage
Fresno fire
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Posted:there are poi moves? i though there was fun ways of not buring your self....
i know im quoten someone i have tobe but owell
i know im quoten someone i have tobe but owell
sir have you ben drinking?
why?
because you are spinging fire
i do it sober also...
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Posted:
Faithinfire:
[Quote]We just need new jedi stuff [/Quote]
Go on then. Bring them up to date. make a Jedi Set for 2007
I just Spent 10 days on a beach with Ronan, Nick Clare and a load of others, in Thailand. and I definitely think there are some
NYC:
[Quote]Damn, was that really only 2002?
I'll never forget Drew at EJC that year premiering the most pathetic buzzsaw isolations to the draw dropping amazement of us all.
[/Quote]
Thanks for reminding me NYC, you know those pathetic (buzzsaw) isolations took nearly 2 years to work out, I remember I was soo happy one day when I managed to do 4 isolations in a row, WOW.
And a month or so later I even managed 11!
and then people like Coleman learnt them in a couple of months.
It seems like people pick them up a lot easier nowadays.... thats progress!
Cute animation btw MTbeer
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Faithinfire:
[Quote]We just need new jedi stuff [/Quote]
Go on then. Bring them up to date. make a Jedi Set for 2007
I just Spent 10 days on a beach with Ronan, Nick Clare and a load of others, in Thailand. and I definitely think there are some
NYC:
[Quote]Damn, was that really only 2002?
I'll never forget Drew at EJC that year premiering the most pathetic buzzsaw isolations to the draw dropping amazement of us all.
[/Quote]
Thanks for reminding me NYC, you know those pathetic (buzzsaw) isolations took nearly 2 years to work out, I remember I was soo happy one day when I managed to do 4 isolations in a row, WOW.
And a month or so later I even managed 11!
and then people like Coleman learnt them in a couple of months.
It seems like people pick them up a lot easier nowadays.... thats progress!
Cute animation btw MTbeer
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Posted:If it makes you feel any better drew... i still cant do them properly 
Now when did you first show me them?...
Now when did you first show me them?...
PK.
"To be an angel, one need not have wings.
In giving love there is an equal grace.
Nor need one seek the aura in the face,
As love unveils the beauty of all things."
*Francois Couperin.
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Posted:dude i'm not making any list, i can't even do a 5bt or any btb or bth weave
i leave that to those who are good and know what they are doing
i leave that to those who are good and know what they are doing
Faith
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Posted:To me something completely Jedi would be somebody getting into a hyperloop and stalling one of the poi upwards and one downwards still keeping in hyperloop.
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Posted:impossible as a hyperloop to be a hyperloop has to be in a weave so has to be mobing otherwise its kinda airwrap i suppose and stalling it would make it non hyperloopish
he he i am mike the amazing gloscircus person who is mike.
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Posted:mike: 5 minutes ago id have agreed with you but after discussing this with oli and then watching him demonstrate a hyperloop stall and back out im now inclined to dissagree. it is definatey possible, i just cant do it
"Don't do it naked!"
DeletePosted:I want i video of that lol.. That would be really fun to pull off lol
he he i am mike the amazing gloscircus person who is mike.
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Posted:hahaha cute.
oli is so cool, i am not surprised his name popped up in relation to that post.
(go oli!)
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oli is so cool, i am not surprised his name popped up in relation to that post.
(go oli!)
- shameless plug for oli -
watch oli's clips, everyone, there is heaps and heaps you can learn from him!
those that know, dont say. those that say, dont know.
Posted:Bump lol so has anoyone found any more "jedi" moves yet are are we being complete hippy slackers again lol....
he he i am mike the amazing gloscircus person who is mike.
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Posted:lmao yeh but even so there must be somthing like completely jedi
he he i am mike the amazing gloscircus person who is mike.
Officaly an exception to the Poi Boys are Girls Thing
Posted:Quote:Imao yeh but even so there must be somthing like completely Jedi.
It would be complete mind game.
I wanna know.
Please!
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Like feeling of being in the right time?
saving energy,
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It would be complete mind game.
I wanna know.
Please!
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Like feeling of being in the right time?
saving energy,
:R
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