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DocLiquid


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Posted:Just thought I'd ask if anyone had any Signature move combo's, you know, the combinations you do in a routine that you consider to be the most showy. The ones you think only you do(but secretly know darn well that there's got to be someone else out there that does them too. Can't wait to here about the awesome moves you all do.PLUHRDOC------------------Let us Light up the Night[This message has been edited by DocLiquid (edited 28 December 2001).]

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DocLiquid


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Posted:*bump*

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yashiro


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Posted:haven't come to this bulletin board for a while... since i stopped poing for some time, don't know why... never learnt that damn low wave turn....Anyways, i'll post my signature move, its basically a weave & turn...but when doing the turn, do a corkscrew and throw yourself into the floor and wrap it, ending in butterfly while you are lying on the floor, then you can follow up wrapping your legs and arms(but with style) right poi wraps left legs(stick out and right leg bended) & vice versa. well that's all, further explanation??also, another signature move that i never perfected it, is the one hand stand butterfly, where you stand with one hand and do the one handed butterfly with one hand, but of course, this move requieres style and muscle strenght,=)[This message has been edited by yashiro (edited 07 February 2002).]

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Charles
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Charles

Corporate Circus Arts Entertainer
Location: Auckland

Total posts: 3989
Posted:Oops, forgot to mention my other signature move with staff is to do a two handed figure 8 so fast it extinguishes the flames. Usually I do this when the fuel is low for performances which makes it veyr easy.But I've also been working on it with a fully fuelled staff, 1.5 feet of wick, flaming fuel dripping off the wicks.Got timed by some friends last week using a just-dunked staff and my fastest time was 11 seconds! (so i'm boasting a little, mods are allowed to boast too).Previous best time was about 18 seconds so I'm proud of myself...Now I'm just going to have to wait until my forearm muscles unknot themselves in a few more days... :P------------------Charles (AKA INFERNO)newdolbel@hotmail.comhttp://juggle.co.nz/fire/fire.html[This message has been edited by Charles (edited 13 February 2002).]

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glowshow


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Location: Charlotte, NC, USA

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Posted:Alright, Doc! I have my now official fully certified signiture move! I got it after a couple of tries after I got home from work on Friday, and have seriously blown some people away doing it out clubbing for the past 2 nights.Infinite (or at least as many times as I want) Butterfly Handcuff Wrap. I'm going to call it the "Butterflower", unless anyone has already (non-technically, see start of paragraph) named it. In that case, I will gladly call it that, since someone beat me to naming it.From a Regular B-fly, wrap the right poi over the left forearm, then the left poi over the right forearm, then the right poi under the left forearm, then the left poi under the right forearm. Then repeat as many times as you like. This one is REAL eye candy!
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All in progressing beats, with no breaks in the rhythm. I have a friend (Frodus) with a digi-cam who is coming down here on April 4th, so when he gets here, I will try to get a good couple of shots, and post the links.On a side note, the wraps can NOT be more than 3/4 to one full rotation, or you will seriously f**k up (read-lacerate for strings, and rip and bruise for chains) your forearms trying to pull the wrap back out, and if your fingers get too close-less than the length of whatever you are spinning-you will chew your knuckles off QUICK and bruise up the tips of your fingers and most all of the outside of your thumbs.
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*OUCH!* I don't think that this can be helped until you get the move down pat-trust me. I first attempted it with my practice chains, and was wrapping a little too much on my left forearm on the underswing, and I have big fat knots starting about 4 inches above my wrist. It will heal, and I have a helaciously impressive lick to add to my arsenal now, so it was worth all the seething, wrigling, hand shaking pain. Heehee!
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Why is it when you conk yourself really hard, (not necessarily related to this, but) you clench your teeth and suck air in? Just curious, but I have noticed that alot lately on tv and stuff. Kind of like when you buy a new car, you notice all of the other cars that look like yours. God! I'm going to bed!------------------I feel more like I do now then I did when I got here.PLUR(RE) ---J---


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Whiffle Squeek

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Posted:mmm, glowshow, youre gonna hate me for this, but...thats my sig move!!!!!hehe, sorry, im j/k, but i had gotten that move down before i even read your post, so i swear im not mooching off of youi was just all excited cause it was the first move/combo i had come up with on my own, and you beat me to it...damn it...but i will second it looks damn sweet!!!(especially if you do it while lying on your back, cause then everyone can see it while looking down on you)

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Posted:and yeah, glowsticks will eat the tips of your knuckles, im currently missing 3 of em, so be careful, and leanr this move with tennis balls or other objects that lack edges...

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DocLiquid


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Location: Naples, Florida

Total posts: 97
Posted:Glowshow, and Squeek, you are right that move does look sick. Been doing it for awhile now but never named it. The "Butterflower" I like that!Thanks to CRD, I have another new signature move. Here goes: Start doing a reverse butterfly in front of you, then through it BTB, now lift your right leg and do a double wrap, after they unwrap wrap the right poi around your left arm, while it unwraps turn to your left side and trough into a BTB weave...it looks sweet...all in all a triple wrap that stays BTB and transits between moves. Perfect for a crowd pleaser...keep practising you all...and keep the combo's coming.PLUHRDOC

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DocLiquid


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Location: Naples, Florida

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Posted:*BUMP*------------------Let us Light up the Night

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glowshow


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Location: Charlotte, NC, USA

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Posted:To ammend my last post, I was searching through thepoi moves section, and someone has already named my butterflower "the roley tango" because it looks like a couple of roley poleys dancing. Figured I would give props to the person who coined it first.I have also added the rolling weave and the rolling butterfly to my list of licks. Keep innovating, people!V There goes another kitty!------------------I feel more like I do now than I did when I got here.~~~Dance as if noone is watching!~~~PLUR(RE) ---J---

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Phuhzzzie Wuhzzzie the Pumpkin King


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Posted:Althogh we've all done this one before I'm going to take credit for it.Neck Wrap:Often occurs when you mess up an overhead move causing one or both poi to wrap around the neck and choke you. For a little extra pain you can hit yourself in the face and the back of your head at the same time when you do this. ------------------A wise man once said to me, "Hey! You! Get out of my wardrobe!" and in a way, I guess he was right.

A wise man once said to me, Hey! You! Get out of my wardrobe! and in a way, I guess he was right.

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Bernadette


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Posted:Hi, I've read all your posts, my own signature move is excually that I bellydance while i'm juggling with fire... I just close my eyes and start dancing, i can't tell after my flames go out which moves i made. It's just a dance. Not some moves after eachother... It's fun to learn new "tricks" but it's more fun to become one with the dance and the fire I think. A lot of times people come to me afterwards and say they really enjoyed my little performance, also girls!!! But I don't have a typical move I make. People call me the bellydance pyro... Very funny when you hear someone say that.. ("hey did you see that pyro bellydance girl") Anyone else like to bellydance and juggle with fire???

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DocLiquid


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Location: Naples, Florida

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Posted:Ahh, yes, it's me with yet another insane move. This is done with 24inch poi(altogether that is) with glowsticks on each end. It's my favorite version of the color changing wrap combos that I have recently been evolving: If you don't know what a colorchanging wrap is; it's when you have two different colors of glowsticks on each end of your poi and you switch the color that is in your hand half way through a wrap.New COMBO: BTB Colorchange to forward 360Start with the reverse forward three beat, then throw into a BTB 3 beat weave, as your right poi comes over to the left side wrap it around your right arm, but only wrap it enough to catch the other glowstick as it comes over your arm(you'll now be holding the other color in your right hand), then as you throw back into a forward reverse 3 beat, wrap your left poi on your right arm and catch the opposite end just as you did before, this will give you alot of momentum so use it do to a 360 to your right. It happens so fast that the audience isn't quite sure if you had that color in your hands in the first place! Heheh. Well there it is, enjoy, and keep the combos coming.PLUHRDOC------------------Let us Light up the Night[This message has been edited by DocLiquid (edited 12 March 2002).]

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DocLiquid


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Posted:Well everyone, I got a new one! Quite interesting actually:Start with a forward BF infront of you, Double bicep wrap to reverse and throw into reverse low wave, as the right hand is behind you throw your left poi under your right leg so it ends up behind you as well, keep in there and you will notice you are doing a BF both BTB and Between the legs, ( if using stix, now wrap left around right arm and colorchange)then throw left BTL back to Reverse Low wave, followed by a 90 left degree turn and wrap right poi around left arm and colorchange that one and throw it BTB as you turn 90 degrees back to the right and follow with the left, you are now holding the other color with both hands in your original position while doing a BTB weave!PLURDOC------------------Let us Light up the Night

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DocLiquid


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Posted:If anyone could actually follow that then you are awesome, but I kinda think it is hard to understand, let me know if you need help or further explanation and I will try to break it down further.PLURDOC------------------Let us Light up the Night

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Posted::requests further breakdown:damn, but if what im thinking about is correct, thats gotta be incredible...

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breaker
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Posted:hey kids. i'm a west coast raver. i have been stringing for almost a year. i got down almost any combi of wraps imaginable. here is my signature move. it isn't a wrap, what i call stalls. it is called the butterfly weave. here goes........

start with the btfly, turn to where you split the btfly to your sides. you are know spinnin one forward and one reverse. now simply do the weave, using the same techs for the crossing over. when done properly it looks like you are wrapping the btfly around you from side to side.

you guys are welcome to try it, if you get it i wanna know.

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DocLiquid


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Location: Naples, Florida

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Posted:Hey Casper, that is a phat move. When I do it I like to change direction my wrapping(stalling) them around my wrists in the middle of the weave. When you have them both between your arms just simply wrap them around the opposite wrist by bringing your hand together. It looks sweet as they spiral down in opposite directions. Keep posting. BTW do you do any colorchanging wraps?

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Posted:please explain colorchanging to me doc.

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Shinomori


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Location: Flushing, NY , USA

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Posted:My favorite combo moves for now goes as.
1)Reverse weave
2)spin left and go 180 degrees with your hip only and maybe pivet your feet but dont lift it up your feet.
3)spin right and do the above move right after.
4)Repeat moves 3 and 4 for 3 times or some number
5)When it reaches the right side as your body turns 180 degrees to the right, lift up to a windmill.
6)Windmill moves from my right side of my head to the top side then to the left side and back to my right side of my head. Kinda looks like it's cirlcing my head but it's really not.
7)Pivet a bit left and go back into the reverse weave
8)do a 360 weave
9)as you are coming back from 360 weave go into btb hand left hand first then right hand
10)Go into 360 btb weave
11)Close your hands like you're praying and open it right before the glowsticks hit some people call it a handcuff wrap? Your hands should be parallel to the floor when it's closed.
12)From that move go into btb double bicep wrap. One glowstick wraps on one bicep, the other on the other bicep but one glowstick is on the TOP PART and the other is on the bottom part of the respective bicep
13)Usually I mess up after cause my btb weave sucks and when i come out i usually hit myself but on them lucky days i go back into a btb weave (the save direction as the front reverse weave) then I do some 360's or windmills
14)Do a front handcuff wrap. This time your hands are suppose to obe perpendicular to the floor as it closes.
15)Open up and lift both hands up like you're doing a over head butterfly. But try to do a overhead hand cuff wrap. When you open up and move above your head, your hand distance shouldn't be more then 3-4 inches apart.
16)The crowd pleaser move is when i come out of the overhead handcuff wrap into double close hand neck wrap or however you want to describe it. Bascially as you open from the above head hand cuff wrap to 4 inches wide, you bring it down and close your hands. You open and close your hands really. Your hands on your neck should open and close about 1 inch from your neck. The secret is to turn you head left and right and you do this move so the glowsticks move properly.
16)Come out of that move and do wraps
17)The strings I use are at a length so if I wrap it around my index finger and middle finger then around my whole hand it'll wrap perfectly into my hands. I do whatever wrap to shorten my strings so it's around my 2 fingers first. Then I'll do the double front bicep wrap and catch one glowstick then the others. I would catch it so the strings wrap from the bottom of my hands or pinky side to the top side.
18)Now I'm doing hands, but since there are strings tied on, I can't do helicopters. So bascially you can do arm traces, leg traces, ghey figure eights and other limited hand moves or whatevers else.
19)Release my hands and either do a weave or windmill so that strings go out.
20)Repeat all the other moves and in between add the split time butterfly or other butterflys but I think butterfly moves are kinda boring. I still do some butterfly moves but I think if you constantly do a butterfly move it looks really bad. So maybe one or two reps per butterfly move except the split time butterfly. Jo Derry does it so nice and he goes into a 360 quad corkscrew spin. My split time 360 quad corkscrew spin looks nasty, I can't get it right. If anyone can give a suggestion, let me know. My 360 spin the strings looks like it's together or not at opposite ends. Boooo... Hope you like the combos YAY


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frodus


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Posted:mine is simply explained
but i've never seen someone else do it yet

overhead butterfly, standing straight up
then i pull the strings down, and jump over both sticks as they pass under my feet

i've seen someone crouch and do it, but not froma full stand


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glowshow


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Location: Charlotte, NC, USA

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Posted:IMHO, if you think B-flies are boring, you haven't seen all of the variation you can do with it. B-flies aren't limited to keeping your wrists together or even on the same side of your body. If you experiment a little, it will open up a whole new range of things you can do with the poi. It's kind of like saying you don't like wraps. You are limiting yourself. But, to each their own, right? It makes the world go round.

By the way, I like some of the stuff you use in that combo. Not too many people use some of those licks, so props.

Doc, you rock!


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frodus


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Location: roanoke, VA

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Posted:hey glowshow
good to see u !


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DocLiquid


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Location: Naples, Florida

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Posted:Thank you glowshow, I'll rate you high for that.

Casper, colorchanging wraps are: with different colored stix on each end of your strings, wrap the poi around some part of your body, but instead of letting it recoil to the opposite direction catch the other stick that comes around and continue in the same direction, but with the other color now.

I use colorchanges a lot, makes the audience much more intent on your show, which caused my first job offer over the weekend at a club in the Miami area, so wish me luck.

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Posted:good luck!

ohhh, and a new move, not really a signature move, but a btb forward weave, when hands are on left side, wrap right poi under left arm and taa daa!!! a butterfly on the side with one arm twisted behind your back, kinda painful, and really only cool to people who twirl, but still fun just to pull out of nowhere...


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Shinomori


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Posted:Hmmm Glowshow might be right. Beside the alternate butterflies where one hand is over your head or behind you and the other is in front, split time butterflies, btb butterflies, I can't think of any other combos. Jo Derry does a nice butterfly combo from abvoe to behind and 180 and so on. Guess I need to be more *expose* to a butterfly specialist? hahah oh yea specialist.

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phunky


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Location: Edmonton, AB

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Posted:I don't want to sound like an ass, i haven't really looked at this thread in a while but please do the spinning community a favor and PLEASE don't name your combos. I don't speak for everyone, actually i only speak for myself but naming your combos just for the sake of claiming them will cause confusion in the future. I'm sure i can come out with thousands of different combos with different names right now off the top of my head. I'm sure you'll say it's for ease of explanation but look at how many people still ask about the fountain. Break it down to the standardized moves and if you somehow invent a move i guess you get to name it. No disrespect to anyone who has named something on in this thread, just see where i'm coming from.

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DocLiquid


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Posted:No disrespect taken phunky, and yes I do understand where you are coming from. However, the purpose of this entire site is to share ideas within our community. That's what this thread and every other thread is here for. The naming of any particular move or combination of moves is irrelevant. I have no desire to take credit for "inventing" anything (even if that were possible in the first place), nor do I wish to gain anymore respect from others simply because I can do a certain move. I started this thread in order for everyone including myself to learn and share new ideas. I can't speak for everyone here, but I have certainly learned a lot and I hope you all have as well.

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DocLiquid


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Posted:Does anyone else have any input on whether or not this thread should be discontinued?

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phunky


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Posted:Not discontiuned, just the naming of the combos part. I'm sure whatever combo you could name you can break it down to it's basic moves and leave it at that. The naming of it is irrelevant. I feel strongly about this. Because there are an infinite amount of combos out there that could be named, but should they be named?

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Shinomori


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Posted:Phunky seems to be very bothered by the naming part. It just a thread, don't gotta take it so personal. Big deal if people like naming things. Doesn't mean they are taking credit really. Not like they are saying "I made this move up and everyone should give me credit and da da da". Calm your nipples, it's just a online thread.

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