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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
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Posted:This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



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aston
aston

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Posted:Heh. I never actually learned the two-beat weave as such. It came out of trying to learn the three-beat.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
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Posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIC5bpPXZqA
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^^^^ Me trying to learn the 3 beat. We all start somewhere.


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Stout
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Posted:Originally Posted By: Laura_OHareI've only just learnt it too. I've been trying to do the forward 3 beat weave recently and it is getting closer but I still don't think i'm doing it right.



Yea, the three beat weave is a funny one. You keep working on it an getting somewhat frustrated then suddenly...HOLY CRAP !!.. it works, usually on one side first, then it stops working, the frustration mounts, poi are flung into the air, total mental breakdown in imminent...then it happens again...it works.


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Laura_OHare
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Posted:Originally Posted By: StoutOriginally Posted By: Laura_OHareI've only just learnt it too. I've been trying to do the forward 3 beat weave recently and it is getting closer but I still don't think i'm doing it right.



Yea, the three beat weave is a funny one. You keep working on it an getting somewhat frustrated then suddenly...HOLY CRAP !!.. it works, usually on one side first, then it stops working, the frustration mounts, poi are flung into the air, total mental breakdown in imminent...then it happens again...it works.



lol exactly! Reassuring to know it's not just me! Will stick at it and hopefully get there eventually!


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aston
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Posted:MNS: You have come along nicely then.... tongue2

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
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Total posts: 2418
Posted:That video was recorded around the time of my registered date, not the date uploaded.

Gaahhhh havent learned anything new in aaages, been so lazy... Haven't even really done poi in months.


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Laura_OHare
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Posted:So on a 2 beat weave, you only cross one arm over but on a 3 beat weave you're crossing both alternatively?

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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
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Posted:If your arms are swapping which hand is on top its a 3 beat.

Both hands cross over in a 2 beat during the course of their figure 8, a 3 beat requires an extra beat so that the hands can swap which is on top.

Try learning the two beat with one hand on top, then with the other on top.

Once you've got both try doing the most unnatural hand on top and its possible you might naturally throw in an extra beat to get your natural hand on top again. smile

Listen to nothing my friend says on that video, he's a non-poister. smile


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Laura_OHare
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Member Since: 14th May 2009
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Posted:lol Thanks, i'll try that. I don't think what i'm doing is a 2 beat OR a 3 beat!!

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keb84
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Location: nottingham
Member Since: 18th May 2009
Total posts: 10
Posted:I've managed the two beat forward weave!
Now trying to master the three beat weave and two beat backwards weave.
I'm glad that my homemade poi are quite soft, given the number of times I've hit myself!


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nickvanmaren
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Member Since: 11th Jun 2009
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Posted:i just decided to do poi two days ago when my friend did a senior project about it. i just finished fashioning myself some practice poi and randomly stumbled into what i think is a 5-beat weave, working on perfecting it now its currently one of two things i can do haha.

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aston
aston

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Posted:Nice going. smile

Although stumbling into a 5bt weave would be very unusual. *shrug*


'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Laura_OHare
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Member Since: 14th May 2009
Total posts: 26
Posted:Still trying to get the 3 beat weave!
I'm tempted to just move on and try something else and come back to it but i'm really stubborn and want to get it!


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aston
aston

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Posted:Try something else for a bit. You will get it. Promise. smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Laura_OHare
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Member Since: 14th May 2009
Total posts: 26
Posted:I think I got it!! I'm such an idiot-I wasn't spinning in split time!
I'm not entirely sure that i'm doing it right or that it is actually the 3 beat weave i'm doing but it feels right and even if it's not right, it's much closer to it than anything i've been achieving these past few weeks.
Thanks Aston smile


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aston
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Posted:Yeah.... Same-time weaves are hard. (I think that they are possible, I have not seriously tried though....)

So, to go over the stuff for you to confirm:
In split-time, the hand on the bottom moves over the other (which is across your body) across your body and is now on top.

The other hand then does the same.


'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Laura_OHare
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Member Since: 14th May 2009
Total posts: 26
Posted:Yes...that's what i'm doing grin Thanks Aston!
It sounds so simple though-I kept trying to over complicate it because it looks a lot more complicated than that, which is the reason I wasn't sure if I was doing it right.


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aston
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Posted:Yay!

Congrats! Now learn it backwards. tongue2


'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Laura_OHare
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Posted:Yeah...we'll maybe leave that one for a bit tongue2

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keb84
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Posted:I've still not got the 3 beat weave....can quite happily do what I think is the 2 beat weave, with the top hand swapping on each beat...hey, I suppose it will come with time and practise!

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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

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Posted:Top hand swapping on each beat? Do you mean that the hand that is on top is swapping over? Left on top, right on top, left on top, right on top?

A beat is a single rotation of the poi.

If your hands are swapping which is on top theres actually 3 beats per full cycle that your hands do. That is... 3 beats between when the right is on top and when the right is on top again (after having been on the bottom)


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Naia
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Location: NZ
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Posted:Wow, reading the previous posts here I feel totally totally inadequate - however, thanks to the great video lesson on this site, I just did my first weave yesterday, and I was rapt!!

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aston
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Posted:Well done!

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Naia
Naia

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Posted:Originally Posted By: Mother_Natures_SonTop hand swapping on each beat? Do you mean that the hand that is on top is swapping over? Left on top, right on top, left on top, right on top?

A beat is a single rotation of the poi.

If your hands are swapping which is on top theres actually 3 beats per full cycle that your hands do. That is... 3 beats between when the right is on top and when the right is on top again (after having been on the bottom)



Phew, thanks for that explanation... the weave is new to me, and I was meaning to try to find what the differences were, just to check on which I was doing. You've answered my question, and I'm doing a 3-beat weave. Yay!


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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
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Posted:smile Nice one.

Understanding the beats and counting beats will make a lot more sense later on.

If you want to count the beats now, do a 3 beat weave motion with one poi and just have your other arm mimic the action, count how many rotations there are before you end up where you started.

Glad I could help, Naia.


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keb84
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Posted:Originally Posted By: Mother_Natures_SonTop hand swapping on each beat? Do you mean that the hand that is on top is swapping over? Left on top, right on top, left on top, right on top?

A beat is a single rotation of the poi.

If your hands are swapping which is on top theres actually 3 beats per full cycle that your hands do. That is... 3 beats between when the right is on top and when the right is on top again (after having been on the bottom)



Ooh! That means I'm doing a three beat weave without realising it!
Thanks...that's made my day!


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MelissaRhae
MelissaRhae

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Posted:I was just watching a video on how to do a two beat weave and a three beat weave and I just realized that my two beat weave that I was so proud of is actually a three beat weave. Silly beginner poi spinner I am lol

I am not smiling because I am happy... I am smiling becasue you have all finally driven me insane!

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ChrissssEH!!
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Posted:-giggle- well, after figuring out a whole bunch of moves.. like, cork screw, windmill, chasing the sun(or shoulder reels), mexican wave [why the hell is it called mexian wave?], butterfly, over the head butterfly, alternating butterfly, as well as three beat forward weave and the start of hip reels.

I learned... 3 beat backwards! that was the hardest thing ever! yet I can do all this other stuff lol!!

-giggle-


though it's been said many times and many ways....

the cute ones are always the ones who'll kill you.

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aston
aston

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Posted:Nice going people.

As a general suggestion, learn everything all the ways it goes. So if you can corkscrew one way, learn it the other way too.


'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Bear1970
Bear1970

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Member Since: 29th May 2009
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Posted:I'm obviously WAY behind here lol

My ragged 2 beat weave is, well, ragged and I really can't get my head round the 3 beat!!

I'll persevere though!! I have a weekend of very little coming up so it'll be poi in the garden when not watching the British and Irish Lions play South Africa!! grin


I am hungry, I am incorrigible, I AM MAN!!

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