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flash fireBRONZE Member
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



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JamethGOLD Member
enthusiast
378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
Sounds fun - I ignored split time opposites for quite a while but have been getting back in to them recently. smile

thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
split-time opposites is badass. spiral wraps, air wraps, stall patterns, so much fun to be had.

The dawn has come
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And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
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meshunderlayBRONZE Member
Juggler/Spinner
612 posts
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA


Posted:


Originally Posted By: thirteensplit-time opposites is badass. spiral wraps, air wraps, stall patterns, so much fun to be had.

Wraps in Split-Opposites? How's that work?

JamethGOLD Member
enthusiast
378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
Originally Posted By: meshunderlay

Originally Posted By: thirteensplit-time opposites is badass. spiral wraps, air wraps, stall patterns, so much fun to be had.

Wraps in Split-Opposites? How's that work?

My thought too - I've always done spiral wraps and tangly things from split time same direction...???

CyricxGOLD Member
newbie
28 posts
Location: Kansas City, MO, USA


Posted:
I've gotten them to work from same time opposites. You have to kinda get one hand out there a bit farther then the other to keep the poi from tangling. Had moderate success with it so far. Not enough to do it on fire yet. smile

Haven't tried split time, but I'd venture to say its the same thing, just put one hand about 1-2 inches farther out in front then the other.

I'd say the distance is probably determined by the size of the poi heads to keep them from hitting at the end.

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astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Spiral wraps are tricky, not really done those, but other wraps work.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
you know what, I was thinking of split-time same direction. I get confused on the modes when they're in a wall plane together.

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And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Heheh. No worries.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
ISOLATIONS! Now if I can just figure out how to move them together without the poi bumping into each other... hmmm...

I managed to (and it was a COMPLETE fluke) do the spiral hand wrap thingy... once last night... once. When I realised that they were actually wrapping around my hands properly I was like "!!!WTF!!!" and then they got stuck and didn't unwrap. But they did wrap... and everytime I tried it after that it didn't work, and I have no idea what I did to get them to wrap properly in the first place... *bangs head on desk repeatedly*

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Will break it down for you some tomorrow.

The most important bit is to have properly clean front planes. It may also help to tilt your hands up a little, so that they do not fall off. To get them to unwrap, you need to make sure that you have at least some space for your hands to open, which means that you open them earlier than you think. The "What are you working on" thread has a cool drill from MNS that you may like to look at as well. Basically try same direction spinning in wall plane and switch which poi is in front and which behind.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Originally Posted By: astonWill break it down for you some tomorrow.

I have to say... I love having you around tongue2
You're such a helpful bean, and really good at teaching this stuff smile You just need to moooooooooove cloooooooooser to Durbz tongue2

thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
I'm going to steal that tip on getting out of them, I can get in fairly consistently but have never been able to get out.

and good job on isolations ash!

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Steal away. smile

*is happy to help*

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
that's why you're awesome, despite your anti-nutella leanings! smile

had my second poi class of the spring session today. learned SO MUCH. writing this down mostly for my benefit so I can remember what to work on this week:
- buzzsaw fountain
- horizontal buzzsaw, into corkscrew, and back, as well as turning with the horizontal buzzsaw
- stalling from same-direction buzzsaw into opposites and back
- stalls in general, especially some new stall patterns
- corkscrew variants (like turns)
- butterfly turns (which I could do, but wasn't good at)
- perfected my windmill (it was pretty sloppy before)
- worked with a mirror to improve my hip reel planes
- finally got ttn down!

uhhh I'm sure I'm forgetting something... I need to take notes next class, I forget all the stuff we learn. we have some awesome teachers.
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The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


hooza angelSILVER Member
Momma Hooza
24 posts
Location: Cleveland OK, USA


Posted:
dude, wish there were classes by where i live, cheater :)), ah well.

i finally figured out how to do reverse 3bw, still workin on gettin in2 it, and noticed i wack myself in the shoulder blade if i dont do it right. and got ttn but gotta work on it also, but feelin quite proud of myself. smile

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Shoulder blade? Really? In a reverse weave you are more likely to hit your face (which fact I know only too well).

Which way are the poi moving at the top of their arc? If in the direction you are facing, that is forward.

But yeah, nice going. smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


DreamsofDiscordSILVER Member
stranger
9 posts
Location: Toledo, OH, USA


Posted:
It's nothing especially note-worthy but after having to take quite a few breathers due to damage sustained to external plumbing, finally found the flow for a 3bw. Was playing around and just kind of... felt it, and there it goes. Working on reverse now, taking a lot of shots to the noggin, but at least I don't need to have a 5 minute break every time I hit myself this way laugh3

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Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Originally Posted By: DreamsofDiscordIt's nothing especially note-worthy but after having to take quite a few breathers due to damage sustained to external plumbing

That my friend is one reason that I am very happy that I'm a woman tongue2 I've repeatedly hit myself in the nether regions and everytime I do I thank the heavens that I'm not a man tongue2 Might I suggest some protective gear? tongue2

thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
LOL yeah, groin taps are no good.

Originally Posted By: hooza angeldude, wish there were classes by where i live, cheater :)), ah well.

it helps a lot. there are some really good videos out there, but even the best video can't watch you try a move and explain what you're doing right and what you're doing wrong.

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


hooza angelSILVER Member
Momma Hooza
24 posts
Location: Cleveland OK, USA


Posted:
yeah, im doin the reverse, its my right flow that ends up wackin my left shoulder blade i think, a friends of mine laughs b/c he thinks i hit myself in the weirdest places lol.

i think the reverse 3bw is harder, but i didnt learn it til like 2 mons l8r than the forwards. now im not sure wat 2 work on so gonna clean up wat i already kno smile.

p.s.
thx 4 all the help wink

hooza angelSILVER Member
Momma Hooza
24 posts
Location: Cleveland OK, USA


Posted:


Originally Posted By: astonShoulder blade? Really? In a reverse weave you are more likely to hit your face (which fact I know only too well).


i manage 2 move dodge my flow b4 its hits my face, so its hits my shoulder blade, but do get hit on the top of the head occasionally (which really freakin hurts)

Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Can I make a suggestion? I don't know what speed you spin at, but try spinning slower. That was like an epiphany for me... slower is easier and on the times that your poi do connect with your body, the impact is far gentler. smile

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
This is aided by heavier poi. Just by the way.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


hooza angelSILVER Member
Momma Hooza
24 posts
Location: Cleveland OK, USA


Posted:
im reluctant 2 make my flows to heavy b/c i hav notice its easier to go heavier but not so easy to go lighter. or am i just odd lol?

HoniiSILVER Member
Life's Student
28 posts
Location: Mesa, AZ, USA


Posted:
I learned a reverse 3 beat weave, windmill, and the fountain! (all over a couple weeks) grin I feels proud lol, buzzsaw flower here I come!

Just keep swinging, just keep swinging...


hooza angelSILVER Member
Momma Hooza
24 posts
Location: Cleveland OK, USA


Posted:
@ honii

good luck lol smile

thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
spiral wraps, you are mine! could get into them before but always had trouble unwrapping. sock poi fixed that. still gonna take work to do it confidently with fire, but being able to repeatedly wrap into and back out of them is a huge step.

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


Ash3sSILVER Member
member
161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
I'm slowly (zomg so frikken slowly) getting the hang of spiral hand wraps... I actually find that if I get the unwrapping right then I do a perfect wrap the other way O.o

But ya... I'd say one in every ten... possibly every twenty works tongue2

astonSILVER Member
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Nice going, both of you. smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
thanks!

and that's how it starts ash... I don't know how many hundreds of spiral wraps I did before they started to work. I'd attempt them randomly at work, walking down the street, etc. just kept trying, kept failing, and then eventually succeeded.

not sure if you've tried this but doing them above your head is A LOT easier for me, since they will fall onto your wrists instead of down off your fingers. of course that doesn't make unwrapping any easier...

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


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