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flash fireBRONZE Member
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Posted:
This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



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1020bennySouthern Spinner
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Posted:
i love hugs. ::))

-I'm so Psily ::))


Ash3sSILVER Member
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Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
This thread is seriously deceptive... "Beginner Poi" ... Lies, all lies tongue2

I'm still really new to poi, have been spinning for a whole 5 weeks... So my "new move" is thread the needle grin I almost squeeked when I got it right without them getting tangled *blushes*

JamethGOLD Member
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378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
Go Ash3s! TTN was a big step for me too. smile

You're right - most of the moves discussed in this thread are no where near beginner: it's been a while since HOP had a group of newbies and peeps have just kept on posting in here as they learned.

astonSILVER Member
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Posted:
Took me a lot longer than 5 weeks. wink

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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Posted:
I just found out I can do an 8bt corkscrew laugh3

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


1020bennySouthern Spinner
13 posts
Location: DFW, TEXAS


Posted:
Originally Posted By: SpinnerofDetroitI've been learning handle changes with glowsticks. SUPER FUN grin Although I hate those counter-weighted throws.
i definitely want to learn more handles. I've dabbled, but i've seen some people make it look amazing.

-I'm so Psily ::))


Ash3sSILVER Member
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Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
*bounces in*

Ok... so this is a really simple move for the rest of you guys, but I finally got my head around (and I'm not sure if this is the right name for them) hip reels. Basically swinging them together forward & behind. Ya, I know... really simple, BUT I'm stoked I can finally do them grin Yay! grin

astonSILVER Member
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Posted:
Reels really open up a lot of movement possibilities. Just btw. wink

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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SpinnerofDetroitGOLD Member
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA


Posted:
Yeah I still use reels. Hip reels can look very badass. What I like to do is do an extension with bot poi together and when they get to my hip I do a reel and then an extra beat just with them at my sides and start whirling with my poi together or do like a half extension and use antispin to wrap my poi. It's simple, but it's so fun and looks so cool I love it grin Explore hip reels my friend there's more to do than you could think of.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin


MusicalTNTSILVER Member
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Posted:
Butterfly and three beat weave down in under a week. Yay grin

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Ash3sSILVER Member
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Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Originally Posted By: SpinnerofDetroitYeah I still use reels. Hip reels can look very badass. What I like to do is do an extension with bot poi together and when they get to my hip I do a reel and then an extra beat just with them at my sides and start whirling with my poi together or do like a half extension and use antispin to wrap my poi. It's simple, but it's so fun and looks so cool I love it grin Explore hip reels my friend there's more to do than you could think of.

Say what?
Ok... Imma gonna try wrap my brain around that one and give it a try...
Reels are a weird one for me... I can do them hundreds going one direction, but try opposite and my brain says "sorry for you". But they feel amazing when they happen smoothly. grin

Originally Posted By: MusicalTNTButterfly and three beat weave down in under a week. Yay grin
Nice! Well done dude grin That's awesome grin I have a bit of a brain flop when it comes to the 3 beat weave... It's such a simple and beautiful move, but the brain to hand connection doesn't always work so well with me tongue2 I'll get there though smile

MidkiffBRONZE Member
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462 posts
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA


Posted:
i learned how to use throws for direction changes from either using hand swaps or turning before i catch it smile

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astonSILVER Member
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Location: South Africa


Posted:
Originally Posted By: Ash3sSay what?
Ok... Imma gonna try wrap my brain around that one and give it a try...
Reels are a weird one for me... I can do them hundreds going one direction, but try opposite and my brain says "sorry for you". But they feel amazing when they happen smoothly. grin

Do work on both ways, it helps. smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Smurf24029GOLD Member
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Posted:
Originally Posted By: astonOriginally Posted By: Ash3sSay what?
Ok... Imma gonna try wrap my brain around that one and give it a try...
Reels are a weird one for me... I can do them hundreds going one direction, but try opposite and my brain says "sorry for you". But they feel amazing when they happen smoothly. grin

Do work on both ways, it helps. smile

I agree with this 110% I didn't realize I was learning reels when I was. I just thought of it as learning to turn in every direction smoothly, no matter what the poi orientation. Its a great help to free movement and being comfortable with all the space around you while moving.

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Ash3sSILVER Member
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161 posts
Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
It's so bizarre, but going the one direction (right to left) is completely comfortable and the other direction is just uncomfortable. I can do it now, thank goodness, but it's still uncomfortable.

I think that is my biggest downfall, I get into a comfort zone with certain moves and directions, and as a result end up neglecting other things that I've learned. But I'm getting there smile You Tube is a great source of inspiration.

I was looking through the tutorial videos, seeing what I can and can't do as yet... I totally have "moon chasing sun" down grin Yeah, yeah I'm still in the beginners section tongue2

Ash3sSILVER Member
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Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
It's been an exciting couple of weeks for me in terms of learning new moves. I am slowly starting to get the concept of poi and understand how they move.

So here's the ones I've managed to get to grips with this week:

3 Beat Weave! Forwards, not backwards... I know, every move must be learned forwards, backwards, inside out, back to front, up, down, sideways... Yes, I know... Baby steps tongue2
Hip Reels - Left to right and right to left & sorta split... my timing is a bit wonky.
Shoulder/Hip Reels
Reel Turns
Buzzsaw - still new for me, but I've got the basic move down, now I just need to refine it.
Alternative Take Outs from Forwards Butterfly

I can also do other funny little things that we do at class, but I have no idea if they have names and what their names would be. grin

thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
reels! so much fun. working on perfecting mine in all directions, and then integrating turns/whirling. as far as performance goes, I am still more impressed by very fluid whirling reels than I am by much more complicated and technical stuff; they just look so beautiful.

anyway, I just figured out downward stalls today. so happy. still need to practice, but getting the poi to stop dead in its tracks for the first time was a great feeling - no more wobbly stalls!

edit: f yeah I just got the 4-beat corkscrew down too!!! and I'm this close to the 5-beat weave as a result. today is a good day for poi!

edit 2: and today I was messing around with stalls at work and just did my first isolation. can only do it for a few beats right now, so it obviously needs practice but damned if I am not having a good week for poi.
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Ash3sSILVER Member
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Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Wow thirteen, you are styling! grin Well done! grin
I've finally got the hang of a backwards TTN and have a butterfly turn down, but need to polish it a tad. It's a bit wobbly still.

Turning is tricky for me because I don't have the backwards stuff down, but I'll get there smile

thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
thanks! and congrats to you, butterflies are so hard for me. still haven't got them down. backwards ttn is quite the accomplishment.

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


astonSILVER Member
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Posted:
Ash: Actually, I know a couple people who learned backwards weaves by just turning around and letting the momentum of the poi do the rest. Just as an aside.

Thirteen: Nice work. smile
I find isolations are something I lose if I do not do them for a while. Due to lack of spinnage in the last few weeks, they have gone downhill. Need to fix that. smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Ash3sSILVER Member
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Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
aston: Wednesday is the perfect time for you to practice isolations tongue2

thirteen: How are you doing with isolations? I had a look at them on the tutorial videos and can't quite get my brain wrapped around them just yet.

As for me, thanks to aston's advice and Derek's tutorial videos I've got (or at least I think I have) backwards 3bt weaves down grin I can also turn using it, which is miraculous for me! So great excitement all over grin

I'm half practicing stalls, but am completely useless at them, to the point that I actually wonder if I need a certain kind of poi for them, that's how useless I am tongue2

thirteenBRONZE Member
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195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
thanks aston!

ash, more good work smile backward 3bt is so awkward at first. being able to turn between that and forward and back again is so useful though, and then you'll be doing fountains, one of my favorite moves... so pretty.

and isolations are... hard, lol. I get the theory and I can do them but they look terrible right now. need a lot of practice until I can do them cleanly and consistently. haven't touched them in a couple days actually, I spent last night polishing reel turns and trying out pirouettes (very hard in a small apartment...) not to mention practicing air wraps (which are more consistent than isolations for me, but not good enough to use in freestyle yet)

so to sum up I'm working on: isolations, reels, pirouettes, and air wraps.

yeah I have the ADD, I think.

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


astonSILVER Member
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4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Ash: Look at SwayingDaisies' channel on Youtube. One of the best stall tutorials around. Heavier poi can make your stalls a little crisper as well, but without knowing your current weight that does not help much. smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


Ash3sSILVER Member
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Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
Originally Posted By: astonAsh: Look at SwayingDaisies' channel on Youtube. One of the best stall tutorials around. Heavier poi can make your stalls a little crisper as well, but without knowing your current weight that does not help much. smile

Now that you know the weight of my poi, should they be heavier?

JamethGOLD Member
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378 posts
Location: NSW, Australia


Posted:
pmji - one of the advantages of sox (or cones) with rice for weights is that they are almost infinitely adjustable.

I kept on adding more rice a spoon at a time 'til I found a weight that suited - I went up when I was learning 5 beat weave and polishing my upward stalls.

astonSILVER Member
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4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
Ash: those you haveare fine, if a little hard. I would prefer a different tether and a swivel, but that is pure preference. I like your poi a lot. smile

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
been working on a lot of stuff. most recently have been tackling my fear of butterflies; today I learned how to stall from a weave into a butterfly and back into a weave. I was messing around and decided I like stalling the same poi twice in a row and never actually entering the butterfly. it's a really awesome feeling.

still can't quite do outward TTN as well as I'd like, and even my best butterfly (inward, right hand on top) occasionally explodes in a blazing glory of clashing poi, but I'm getting there.

also starting to play with short poi and transitioning back and forth between long and short poi while spinning. I've discovered that doing weaves with one short and one long poi makes it look like one poi is circling inside the other. any other suggestions on stuff to try with one short and one long?

oh and I've learned my first flower! wall plane single-handed anti-spin four-petal is the only thing I'm comfortable with, but still - so cool! I can tell that learning these is going to be so much fun once I feel ready to push them further.

The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


Ash3sSILVER Member
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Location: Durban South Africa


Posted:
*looks at thirteen with sad eyes*
Where and how do you find the time???

Well done thirteen! grin You're seriously styling at this point grin

astonSILVER Member
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4,061 posts
Location: South Africa


Posted:
thirteen: you can have a lot of fun with switching which hand stalls in a butterfly. I came across a fun way of doing it a couple years ago which I still use from time to time. Good work though, you are making some nice progress. smile

Ash: Give some thought to what you want to learn next, and I can give you a hand on Wednesday if I can find a vehicle to get down to DBN in.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland


thirteenBRONZE Member
The Death Card
195 posts
Location: Minneapolis, MN USA


Posted:
thanks ash! I usually practice around an hour a day when I get home from work, sometimes more. it takes some dedication, but it doesn't hurt that poi is more fun than just about anything else I could do with my free time!

aston: how do you do it? if it's not too hard to explain, sometimes putting poi into words is awkward. and thanks as well smile
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The dawn has come
And the wine will run
And the song must be sung
And the flowers are melting
In the sun


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