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flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 25th Jan 2001
Total posts: 2758
Posted:This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



::flash enthusiastically pats your back::



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duballstar
duballstar

slack rating - 9.5
Location: Suburbiton, Yoo-Kay
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2003
Total posts: 2216
Posted:picked up a fire rope dart for the first time t'other day.

among other the usual throws/ wraps etc.. managed to wrap it about 4 times round my body + off again the other way with a kind of hula hula movement... feeling inspired by this i went for an insane neck wrap and overcooked it! (not to mention my head)
ubbloco


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TheWibbler
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Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 920
Posted:I can now change the direction the poi spins through the air without using my hands ~ instead using forearm, bicep or (foot ~ kinda). Bonkers.

Also concreted my understanding of "Slapping the wet fish"

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Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.

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duballstar
duballstar

slack rating - 9.5
Location: Suburbiton, Yoo-Kay
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2003
Total posts: 2216
Posted:wow! sounds like contact poi... pop a vid on spherculism if you've got it dialled!!

It is our fantasies that make us real. Without our fantasies we're just a blank monkey' - Terry Pratchett

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Rev
Rev

Bastard Newbie Messiah
Location: Apparently lost in my ego
Member Since: 14th Mar 2003
Total posts: 1269
Posted:go matt... wherever did you learn such things.. eek ubblol

More useless information courtesy of Rev...
Confusing the masses, one post at a time...
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bluecat
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geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:Quote:
I can now change the direction the poi spins through the air without using my hands ~ instead using forearm, bicep or (foot ~ kinda). Bonkers.




is this what is technically known as a 'wrap'? wink

explain yoursefl o tastily talented one... smile


R



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Big Andy
member
Location: Dallas, Tx
Member Since: 1st Apr 2003
Total posts: 186
Posted:Wow, I'm a little ways behind some of you guys, but oh well, I'm makin progress.



Newest moves- BTB forward 3bt weave and I can get into and out of it smoothly now in my show biggrin



Also I'm still shaky with it but i think I learned a couple of airwrap/hyperloop moves. One is in a forward weave in which I let the chains wrap (about half way down the chain) on the left side and they unwrap on the right side for a neat looking weave combo. The other is from a reverse weave, I let the chains wrap on the left side again, then allow the poi to do a rotation between my arms in front of me, then they unwrap on the right side. Put all this together into a 360 degree combo and it looks kinda neat. What would I call these moves though? I'm guessing the forward one has a different name then the reverse one since the forward one doesn't incorporate a rotation in the middle of your arms and the reverse one I learned does.



I won't be doing the chain wrap moves with fire anytime soon, but I'm planning on incorporating the BTB weave into my next burn! I'm excited about that! It seems to be somewhat of a milestone for most newbies when they finally land the BTB weave stuff, so I'm glad to finally be getting there! I think the "uneducated" crowds are pretty impressed by BTB moves, so I bet these new oppurtunities should greatly improve the flow of my show. Now I can't wait to get the reverse BTB weave and be able to turn with it, then I'll REALLY be cookin wink



weavesmiley cool

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Mand
Mand

Keeper of the Spitfire
Location: Calgary Canada
Member Since: 24th Oct 2003
Total posts: 2317
Posted:Wohoo!
*jumps up and down with joy*

Over the past 4 days I've mastered btb weave turns, and today the 6 beat corkscrew.
biggrin biggrin biggrin


Lets steal a spaceship and head for the sun, and shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

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TheWibbler
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Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 920
Posted:Quote:


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I can now change the direction the poi spins through the air without using my hands ~ instead using forearm, bicep or (foot ~ kinda). Bonkers.



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is this what is technically known as a 'wrap'?

explain yoursefl o tastily talented one...


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Not quite my feline friend. I can now throw my poi in the air, reverse the direction it is spinning, whilst in mid flight, using my forearm or upperarm, then catch the little bugger as it comes back the other way.

Or slap it back from whence it came, ad infinitum, well, a couple times before flying off in some random direction ubblol

You can either use the arm which released the poi or you can use the other hand which is still spinning the other poi. Which is amazing. The action reminds me a lot of using devil sticks. Except it feels more like slapping a wet fish.


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bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:yaaaaay slapbacks(to borrow a bit of juggling terminology)

these are lovely. sounds like you've been playing with these a bit more than me, so when i get back to some semblance of fitness i'll have a play with some of these ideas....

hugs
R biggrin


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TheWibbler
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Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 920
Posted:Tail Taps and Head Slaps I tend to call them.

Can't wait till I can spin poi for extended periods of time without using my hands.


Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.

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duballstar
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Location: Suburbiton, Yoo-Kay
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2003
Total posts: 2216
Posted:at last!! biggrin

fbtb weave
bbtb to fbtb weave turns (not back again yet tho)
sketchy full waist wrap
sketchy overarm upwards ttn throws (about every 4 beats)

whooo!! i should really make the effort to concentrate on learning new poi stuff more often.... smile


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Mand
Mand

Keeper of the Spitfire
Location: Calgary Canada
Member Since: 24th Oct 2003
Total posts: 2317
Posted:Wow, I come to Houston and I can suddenly figure out moves better! biggrin

Waist wraps, btb waist wraps. biggrin
And an extremely sketchy 7 beat weave (its just about the limit of the bendiness of my arms!)
biggrin biggrin biggrin


Lets steal a spaceship and head for the sun, and shoot the stars with a lemonade ray gun.

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WryTerra
WryTerra

The reason we say "European"
Location: Cheltenham
Member Since: 13th Jan 2003
Total posts: 912
Posted:Yeah, being around Spitfire does that for you.

"We have done the impossible and that makes us mighty" - Mal Reynolds

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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
Total posts: 3749
Posted:well,
coleman finally showed me what a inside weave was, so thats cool and insolated wink

i can spin clubs now.

i learnt burks barrage and 441 box stuff, and the pinky lift on the 4 ball stack.

anything else? front to behind the head airwraps. dodgley.

T wave


This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti

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Richee
HOP librarian
Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:
I learnt some pendulum transitions and continue inside weave movement
ubbloco wave


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Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
Total posts: 3749
Posted:btb airwraps, aparently. wave

This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti

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musashii
musashii

starring Skippy the green llama
Location: Seattle, WA
Member Since: 14th Dec 2002
Total posts: 1148
Posted:Inverted butterfly thru wraps, this is goin to open up alot o stuff biggrin biggrin biggrin



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certifiedloon
newbie
Location: currently New Zealand
Member Since: 2nd Jun 2004
Total posts: 29
Posted:wow... I just read most of this thread and didn't know what any of you are on about - what are all these crazy tricks? Thing is I spin pretty much on my own cos I haven't found anyone yet, and without anyone as good as you lot, its difficult to progress because I can't be told what's possible, and what trick to try 'next'... but anyway well done to everyone, I'm sure all this stuff looks awesome!
I just downloaded an explanation of hyperloops which I had never ever heard of until today, and am gonna try!
7 beat weave.... how the hell do you do that? (Was quite proud of finally getting 5!)

beerchug cheers for the inspiration


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TheWibbler
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Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 920
Posted:Illumin8, any thing is possible. Don't get bogged down by 'names of tricks' ~ just make sure you try to practice every variation on every pattern you already know.

Try patterns in different positions around your body

try increasing the beat count

make sure your right and left hands are equally strong

Create your own unique style

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Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.

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BoomShankar
BoomShankar

member
Location: Leeds UK
Member Since: 15th Jul 2003
Total posts: 95
Posted:I just pinched this move from poipoipoi

total insanity (+ total plagiarism) cheers mate!

Nx? what's 441 stuff? I heard someone try to explain millsmess 441 and it made no sense at all ... care to explain?


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TheWibbler
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Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 11th Apr 2003
Total posts: 920
Posted:Nice one Boomshanka, all i ask is that you post in the New to You' forum on spherculism. That way other poiple who wanna learn it can talk to you about it.

There can be no plaguiarism of my moves because I don't Own any of them (although that particular one is very dear to me ubblove)

By giving everything away on spherculism all of those moves become 'public domain' which means everyone has equal rights to them.

But if you can do that move then we have got to meet up one day!!! How b@dass would it look to both do that move sync-ed to music smile

Take it easy, and keep up the hard work.

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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:boomshanka: this is a 441.

441 mills (you can see an animated version if you go here and click on 'mills mess 414') is the same trick but with arms doing the mills related crossovers and carries.

the confusing thing about siteswap and mills is that because the hands have three positions (right over, open, left over), there are three versions of each siteswap depending on which position you start in.

for a clear example of this go here and type the following numbers into the pattern box (all with the program set to juggle mills mess):

3 [normal mills mess]
414 [the easiest 441 mills]
144 [another 441 mills]
441 [the third 441 mills]


i learnt very little this weekend.
my 4b mills went all wobbly frown
but i came closer to 3b statue of liberty and am starting to get on top of 3b high low showers (both ways).


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bubblishis
False Eyelash
Location: New York City
Member Since: 27th Dec 2003
Total posts: 346
Posted:4bt TTN! And reverse...almost. ubbangel


Nice one boomshanka. That move looks pretty hot.



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_Aime_

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Hastings
Member Since: 2nd Jan 2004
Total posts: 4172
Posted:reverse weave biggrin i have the expression of rabbit whose about to get hit by a big lorry, and arms all over the place, but i can still do it hehe smile

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duballstar
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Location: Suburbiton, Yoo-Kay
Member Since: 3rd Sep 2003
Total posts: 2216
Posted:factory on both sides

really just wanted to post so i could thank coleman for putting that juggling link up, nice one!!!! beerchug


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BoomShankar
BoomShankar

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Location: Leeds UK
Member Since: 15th Jul 2003
Total posts: 95
Posted:yeah cheers for that coleman thats loadsa help beerchug

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FireSpirit
FireSpirit

Classic 90's Fire Dancer... Poi, Staff, Doubles, and Breathing
Location: South Lake Tahoe
Member Since: 29th Mar 2001
Total posts: 743
Posted:It took me a While, but I finely got the Behind the Back Forward weave and spin into the BTB Bakward Weave!! Now I can spin both ways (360) BTB weaves!! Its funny though, I learned how to do it by using my staff first, getting the BTB forward/backward spins down with it, then brought it to the poi. It helped Heaps!
I have had the BTB bacwards weave for years, but the forwards one was giving me problems. I really just needed to go out and practice it, however I was a bit Procrastinate about it. Had more to fine tune than try the BTBforward weave and turn. Silly really!

Well just had to get a bit exited about it! ubblol

( I forgot about this thread and made a new one ---Ops I'll deleat it) ubbangel



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IT LIVES AND BREATHS!
IT CONSUMES, AND DISTROYS!
BUT WE CONTROL IT,
AND DANCE WITH FIRE!!

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FireSpirit
FireSpirit

Classic 90's Fire Dancer... Poi, Staff, Doubles, and Breathing
Location: South Lake Tahoe
Member Since: 29th Mar 2001
Total posts: 743
Posted:It took me a While, but I finely got the Behind the Back Forward weave and spin into the BTB Bakward Weave!! Now I can spin both ways (360) BTB weaves!! Its funny though, I learned how to do it by using my staff first, getting the BTB forward/backward spins down with it, then brought it to the poi. It helped Heaps!
I have had the BTB bacwards weave for years, but the forwards one was giving me problems. I really just needed to go out and practice it, however I was a bit Procrastinate about it. Had more to fine tune than try the BTBforward weave and turn. Silly really!

Well just had to get a bit exited about it! ubblol

( I forgot about this thread and made a new one ---Ops I'll deleat it) ubbangel



FIRE IS ALIVE!
IT LIVES AND BREATHS!
IT CONSUMES, AND DISTROYS!
BUT WE CONTROL IT,
AND DANCE WITH FIRE!!

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FireSpirit
FireSpirit

Classic 90's Fire Dancer... Poi, Staff, Doubles, and Breathing
Location: South Lake Tahoe
Member Since: 29th Mar 2001
Total posts: 743
Posted:It took me a While, but I finely got the Behind the Back Forward weave and spin into the BTB Bakward Weave!! Now I can spin both ways (360) BTB weaves!! Its funny though, I learned how to do it by using my staff first, getting the BTB forward/backward spins down with it, then brought it to the poi. It helped Heaps!
I have had the BTB bacwards weave for years, but the forwards one was giving me problems. I really just needed to go out and practice it, however I was a bit Procrastinate about it. Had more to fine tune than try the BTBforward weave and turn. Silly really!

Well just had to get a bit exited about it!



FIRE IS ALIVE!
IT LIVES AND BREATHS!
IT CONSUMES, AND DISTROYS!
BUT WE CONTROL IT,
AND DANCE WITH FIRE!!

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tennis
confused and abused
Location: bristol
Member Since: 26th Jun 2002
Total posts: 363
Posted:calm down dear.... confused

My cat's breath smells like catfood

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