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flash fire
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

flash fire

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Posted:This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



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LadyKrystalWebb
SILVER Member since Mar 2006

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Posted:Any tips for Chasing the Sun? I've watched the animation but I can't seem to do it. Annoyingly tho, I can do Mexican wave.

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Mireneye
SILVER Member since Oct 2005

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Posted:IF you can do a windmill. Your not far off. A windmill is esentiall turning 90 Degrees with your body. and flipping your arms split time bak and front above your head. I think(I'm actually not sure) that if you do that Same time. You've isolated the move where Chasing the sun goes behind you. Continue practice that, and try Chasing the sun later.. see if it works.

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Mireneye
SILVER Member since Oct 2005

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Posted:Oh... This deserved it's own post...
I got the 5beat weave working fine today.
I also got the Isolated TTN down today.

What a good day!


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burningoftheclavey
SILVER Member since Jul 2005

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Posted:i got the BTB reverse weave today, ive been trying for ages to get it right eeeey!

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Mireneye
SILVER Member since Oct 2005

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Posted: Written by: burningoftheclavey


i got the BTB reverse weave today, ive been trying for ages to get it right eeeey!



Now that you got it... Any tips on what helped you the most... The worst aspect of my spinning is my BTB stuff.


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Suibom


Suibom

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Location: Oregon, USA

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Posted:Sloppy and painful, but I'm finally getting the reverse antispin flower goin (arms spinning forward, poi spinning backwards). Sloppy cause it's freakin difficult to keep the plane control (just like it used to be learning the forward antispin :P.. also because my arms don't agree with me that that move can really be done. They flat out deny it's possiblity :P. Painful cause my arms are not happy with spinning it..heh..

Next up, antispin turning flowers.. oy that messes with my brain biggrin.

Peace,
- Sui


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animatEd
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

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Posted:Turning antispin flowers I find easier than reverse antispin flowers...

The 'trick' is learn a wallplane antispin flower, and then that is what you use to turn. Although, that's the way I did it, but I'm not sure if I'm cheating or not...

I can now do BTB weave in both directions, and turning in a little circle. Yay!!


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Larry
SILVER Member since Oct 2005

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Posted: Written by: Lousy_Trucking_Car


Turning antispin flowers I find easier than reverse antispin flowers...

The 'trick' is learn a wallplane antispin flower, and then that is what you use to turn. Although, that's the way I did it, but I'm not sure if I'm cheating or not...

I can now do BTB weave in both directions, and turning in a little circle. Yay!!



you got it then, well done
i'm still working on that BTB bit! getting there.


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DeepSoulSheep
GOLD Member since Sep 2002

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Posted:For some reason I'm facinated that you could turn an anti-spin flower before you could turn a weave btb.... smile
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Suibom


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Posted: Written by: Lousy_Trucking_Car

The 'trick' is learn a wallplane antispin flower, and then that is what you use to turn. Although, that's the way I did it, but I'm not sure if I'm cheating or not...



Heh.. well what I'm trying to do two or three rotations of forward antispin, then turn, then another two or three reverse antispin, then turn again... just to make sure I get and understand the full feel of it.. The turn itself is odd, but trying to force my arms into continuing antispin rather than just doing a reverse flower makes my brain hurt.

Heh.. and as far as behind the back weave goes.. I just kinda gave up on it.. it causes too much pain to my collarbone frown.

Peace,
- Sui


Definition of poi- A Hawaiian food made from the tuber of the taro that is cooked, pounded to a paste, and fermented.

Ahnold discussing poi - "It is naht a toober!"

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Sporky


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Posted:TTL weave and ttl fountain within about 10 minutes of each other.

Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't

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fNi
GOLD Member since Mar 2004

fNi

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Location: New York, USA

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Posted:ttl? do you mean btl?

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Sporky


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Posted:I stand corrected wink

I got the idea from feuershow so just used the name they have for it.


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Mireneye
SILVER Member since Oct 2005

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Posted:I just did my first beat of TTN Weave. Very similar to the Butterfly Weave (duh) However even harder to keep it flowing and getting the planes to strighten out.

The key to the move is Beeing able to rotate the torso fluently. And to be able to know all the basic bells and whistles of the TTN move, that beeing forward and reverse TTN.

My problem is that my reverse TTN still sucks. Any pointers on that one... I wanna know more about the hand position.


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Mr_widd


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Location: Torquay, UK

Total posts: 253
Posted:butterfly barrel rolls, both ways

next reverse antispin weave!


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coleman
SILVER Member since Aug 2002

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Posted: Written by: coleman


and i finally got round to sorting out antispin flowers ubbrollsmile




this weekend they worked proper for the first time ever really - they've worked on and off before but never as solid as this.

no lockouts or nuthin - just smooth antispin flower gorgeousness ubblove

i spent about half of a burn spinning just that one move listening to the woosh and speeding up and slowing down...

and i know they work now cos i could hear it and hels told me she saw it smile

that took a while umm


cole. x


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mico
BRONZE Member since Jul 2004

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Posted:Continuous throws from a three beat weave thingy with each
hand releasing when it goes under the other arm, the poi
going over the head and back to the same hand on its usual
side of the body. Makes me think I should have three poi..

Same time butterfly arm raps to btb stalls to change
direction and do it again in reverse. (Okay the upwards
double stalls are horizontal, I like them like this which is
good, cos up stalls are major tricky.)

Isolated 5-beat fountain, still has a part I can't do without
being in two places at once, so still working on that.

ubbrollsmile

Hey, what would poiing in space, weightless, look like?
(throws would be interesting.. isolations, harder or easier?)
Think of the possibilities!!

weavesmiley


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Dut
SILVER Member since Mar 2002

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Posted: Written by: mico


Continuous throws from a three beat weave thingy with each
hand releasing when it goes under the other arm, the poi
going over the head and back to the same hand on its usual
side of the body. Makes me think I should have three poi..

Same time butterfly arm raps to btb stalls to change
direction and do it again in reverse. (Okay the upwards
double stalls are horizontal, I like them like this which is
good, cos up stalls are major tricky.)

Isolated 5-beat fountain, still has a part I can't do without
being in two places at once, so still working on that.

ubbrollsmile

Hey, what would poiing in space, weightless, look like?
(throws would be interesting.. isolations, harder or easier?)
Think of the possibilities!!

weavesmiley



been thinking about that lately, actually. biggrin and i learned the 3 and 5 beat continuous throws since i've posted here too. and double butterfly throws are getting there... the only one that works 100% is if i stall both poi upward from reverse butterfly and flick the handles inward (isolated) to catch them in the same hand. but i can throw double forward bflys to try to catch with opposite hands, only if i cross wrists and stall them a little underneath like they were spinning reverse. wink at this point i need to figure out how to uncross my wrists and catch them without tangling everything, but it'll come eventually.

also there's some overly complicated half-btb/contact catch/double throw move i posted in the "comb-over" thread that i got this weekend. biggrin


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nonenonenone
SILVER Member since Jan 2006

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member
Location: none, United Kingdom

Total posts: 129
Posted:Woo! after SO long trying and so much pain (especially tonight after hitting myself in the face and giving myself a nose bleed!) , i finally cracked btb weave!
its still kinda hit and miss (literally!) but i can actually do it!
yay!! bounce bounce2


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Richee
BRONZE Member since Jan 2002

HOP librarian
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic

Total posts: 1841
Posted:
1)Butterfly barell roll(R->L).

For more look in 'Butterfly barell roll' thread.

2) Hyperloop turn(aka +1-1)

There is beutifull vid from Spherculist(Meenik
camera and thread in vid section), just let me
know and I'll find the link.

lightning,

:R


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Mr_widd


Mr_widd

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Location: Torquay, UK

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Posted: Written by: Richee



1)Butterfly barell roll(R->L).

For more look in 'Butterfly barell roll' thread.





that thread helped me soo much too, i got it R-L and L-R now without the wraps and then just infront of me with wraping it. biggrin


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jaero
SILVER Member since Jun 2004

jaero

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Posted:I learned an airwrap double wrist wrap last night. with my fire poi. where you go into the air wrap and instead of pulling it across to the other side of your body to come out of it, you stick both your wrists in the way and reverse the direction of the poi. right chain hits the right wrist and vis a versa. such a hard trick,,,

I'll get there too late if I shorten my stride, I'll get there too soon if I find me a ride, I'll never move forward if I try to hide this path that I've troden one step at a time.

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jaero
SILVER Member since Jun 2004

jaero

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Posted: Written by: Mireneye


I just did my first beat of TTN Weave. Very similar to the Butterfly Weave (duh) However even harder to keep it flowing and getting the planes to strighten out.

The key to the move is Beeing able to rotate the torso fluently. And to be able to know all the basic bells and whistles of the TTN move, that beeing forward and reverse TTN.

My problem is that my reverse TTN still sucks. Any pointers on that one... I wanna know more about the hand position.

good job mireneye. keep it up. for the reverse TTN, I'd suggest you point the palms of your hands skyward. but that's all I can tell you that you might not already know. if you want to get the TTN weave really good, the key is to practice the reverse TTN till your fingers go numb, and then learn how to go in every direction that you can. I'll give you a hint there's 8 different turns without leaving a TTN weave. if you get all of them, the TTN is yours. I can't really describe the hand positions to you because there are 8 differen't turns where every hand position is possible. turn to the left from TTN to reverse TTN with the right hand on top then you can also do it with the left hand on top. try to spin your body in circles. then try it in the other direction. try a TTN fountain. as with the TTN weave, it's all practice for the big picture. complete control of the poi when they're spinning opposite directions.


I'll get there too late if I shorten my stride, I'll get there too soon if I find me a ride, I'll never move forward if I try to hide this path that I've troden one step at a time.

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LazyAngel
GOLD Member since Jul 2004

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Posted:antispin thread the needle, I think..

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MiNiMAD


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Posted:I've been spinning for about 3 months now and have found this website to be most helpfull. whilst learning 5 bt forward and reverse, moves that I thought were difficult, the tips and direction given by these forums got me through. However, the move that frustrated me the most was the butterweave. I couldn't find too much info on it and what I wanted most was a video because I find this the best way for me to learn new moves. I just nailed it though! and its made me the happiest poier in the world! took me longest out of all the moves i know to learn, but gave me the most satisfaction. V. pleased. if anyone wants to see i've put vid on myspace - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=77008535
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Sun_Puppy


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Posted:I'm a newbie too.

I managed to nail TTN for the first time last night. What I was actually trying to do was a low btb alternate butterfly, but I kept hitting myself, so I thought I'd try TTN instead and it worked !

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Richee
BRONZE Member since Jan 2002

HOP librarian
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic

Total posts: 1841
Posted:weavesmiley Hyperloop double wrist wrap.





weavesmiley weavesmiley Inverted hyperloop double wrist wrap

with snag exit,



lightning,



:R










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fNi
GOLD Member since Mar 2004

fNi

master of disaster
Location: New York, USA

Total posts: 3354
Posted:second degree inversions, but only in reverse so far

kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more

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keldur


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Posted:just figured out the isolation buzzsaw.

could anyone tell me how to do the antispin weave???


could this be the plastic-age?

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Mr_widd


Mr_widd

eat my face before i eat yours
Location: Torquay, UK

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Posted:that anti spin weave, i could show you but i dont think i am able to write down how to do it as well as some people on here can, try doing a search. sure you will find some coolio help there.



anyways, i just learnt the spider! dunno how or why, but just seemed to do it and it feels soooooo odd, like my arms just fall into a lock of somesorts! played about with it for a while and got it very atomic. well as atomic as it should be.



:edit: save another post... 7 beat weave, you know the elbow one smile



is it a finger wrap that you can do to make this a 9 beat?

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