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flash fireBRONZE Member
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



::flash enthusiastically pats your back::



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TheWibblerGOLD Member
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920 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Tenticle: What's the difference between a rope dart and poi??? they sound exactly the same to me.

Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
Quote:

12' of 1/4" rope




that's about 3m long which would be extreme poi even for a dom on stilts ubblol

ppp: rope dart is exactly like your monkeyfist meteor (ubblove)
when i was playing with it at the bjc, holding one end and doing long, swingy, wrappy, release stuff it was attempts at working out some rope dart techniques.

gonna have get me one of those this summer... smile

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


TheWibblerGOLD Member
old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Thought so. This to me is still poi, a weight on a string. But I don't understand why you only have 1 weighted end, unlike a meteor where both ends are weighted, why is this???

I assume it's the same thing 'Go-Go' uses in 'Kill Bill' those things she does with her feet are wicked. Definitely gonna be part of my meteor repetoire when i can get outside and use it again, oh how i long for an endless summer, I consider Meteor my True Art even though i'm considerably better at poi.

I had a thought about meteor the other day: To my knowledge there isn't a single word associated with any 'move' I do with a meteor. This makes it kinda hard to teach but I really like it, it's totally free. I adore the way everyone who picks one up plays with it in a totally different way. I also love how random it is, I find it far less controlable than poi. Not in a bad way though, meteors just flow of their own accord.

I'm gonna do some kind of Meteor Tutorials on spherculism. But like I say, the moves aren't catagorised yet and I don't want them to be so it's gonna be quite a tricky task.

Coleman: it'd be great to get some footage of you spinning one. How 'bout I make you a nice Monkey Fist Meteor and do some filming this summer?? If you prefer I could make you a chain one, then you can put crazy flames on the ends.

Which reminds me. Last summer my friend got some footage of me spinning fire meteor for the first time, i still haven't seen the footage but he promised to get it to me soon, it'll be up on spherculism straight away.

m

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colemanSILVER Member
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7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
ubblove that would be so cool i am lost for words hug

your rope meteor is the only one i have really felt i could play with how i wanted to and am i am absolutely useless at making toys for myself - my orange poi have been waiting for me to fix them for about 5 months now but i keep forgetting to learn how to sew rolleyes

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


[Nx?]BRONZE Member
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Location: Europe,Scotland,Both


Posted:
I tend to use a lot of staff terms for metior, and poi ones for the butterfly stuff, apart from that there are specialised things like 'driving' and 'pushing' wich mainly refer to static spins. id love to see some metior footage from ya Matt, that would be cool. grab me sometime and ill teach you thoes foot releases.

T wave

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-><- Kallisti


TheWibblerGOLD Member
old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Hey Nx,

I forgot about your meteor antics, you da man. How 'bout when it gets sunny we get a few heads down to brighton, i'll get a bling camera and we can make lots of crazy little films. There's oodles of space free on spherculism.

As for new moves I've been working on Butterfly Hyperloops ubblove

I can nail those double wrist stops half way through a BF hyperloop.

I got a cheeky little single wrist stop so you come out split time same direction, then straight into a regular HL ~ Haven't managed to come out of it IN a regular HL yet but it seems possible. This means I can do a repetitive pattern which incorporates 2 BF-HL In Time and 2 W-HL Split time. The time changing half way through looks crazy. Add in a couple throws to spice it up a little and your away. Unless of course you want to do a really great performance, then i'd recommend spinning a 3 bt weave Really Fast ubbtickled ubbtickled ubbtickled

And I've been experimenting loads more with single and double wrist stops during Weave Hyperloops.

Been doing loads of 'Cubes', 90-Degree plane Tweaking to the max. Can apply it to pretty much everything up to 5 beat, and turns. Haven't been using the Horizontal Plane too much except when I stop forcing the 90 degrees and just totally freestyle.

Been changing the direction of the poi in mid air without using my hands wink

Same old, Same old. ubbtickled

Have you ever done 'Meteor Passing'? It's really simple but I've only ever done it with people who can't reallly spin Meteor, would be great to practice some time.

m

Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.


tenticleenthusiast
275 posts
Location: ati: on: She: ffi: eld: UK:


Posted:
Quote:

Thought so. This to me is still poi, a weight on a string. But I don't understand why you only have 1 weighted end, unlike a meteor where both ends are weighted, why is this???






The weight on the end is normally a sharp metal spike or a dagger, and you keep the other end wrapped around one hand or the other to ensure you get maximum range and still pull it back in.
I havn't seen kill bill yet but everyone who's seen the rope dart thinks i have... Saw it on a jackie chan first i think.

--Ben

TheWibblerGOLD Member
old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Wow man, I know how Chaotic my meteor can be even when it's totally in control.

Must get cut quite a bit with a dagger on the end??

My Fire meteor cuts my arms to shreds and that's just from tiny bits of jagged wire where i's been cut.

Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.


[Nx?]BRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,749 posts
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both


Posted:
yeah matt, that sounds like a boss idea. you should meet ivan, hes got some kick ass metior moves too.

I been playing with thoes bf to weave hyps too, pertty hard but possible, I think i figured out how to do it then forgot about the move, that happens to me all the time. Someone says, oh, what about this? and i go Yeah! i figured that one and do it badly. so many moves, so little time.

turning a box is a bitch, but ive finnaly gotten the box weave to feel good.

nice, see ya in the spring boyo.

T wave

This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
thanks to mr spiral x and the wonderful environment that is spitz i did some poi last night.

mr. x showed me how straight arm weave hyperloops work.

and they fit really well biggrin hug



oh, and i also fed properly for the first time and managed (right-handed only) 531 as single-flat-pass ubbrollsmile

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


spiralxveteran
1,376 posts
Location: London, UK


Posted:
No problem, and thank you for showing me those vertical hyperloops and a couple of other little tricks which I'm going to be playing with ubblove

Also finally got butterfly hyperloops after being shown how they work, need to get them a lot smoother still though!

And as for bf<->weave hyperloop transitions they're definitely possible both ways 'cause I've done then by accident a couple of times when cocking up my hyperloops wink Getting them to come out smoothly is going to be difficult though as the tension in the poi is usually lost.

Also worked out what the difference between airwraps and hyperloops is in a mathematical way. But I'm not going into that unless pressured tongue

"Moo," said the happy cow.


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
Quote:

But I'm not going into that unless pressured tongue




*subtlely applies pressure*

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


spiralxveteran
1,376 posts
Location: London, UK


Posted:
LOL smile It will require me to draw diagrams though, because although it probably can be explained in words, diagrams will make it a lot harder to argue against wink

I may even start a thread if I do. Because we need more threads arguing about what hyperloops and airwraps are ubblol ubblol

"Moo," said the happy cow.


TheWibblerGOLD Member
old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
I wanna see pictures ubbangel

I'd really love to know the difference.

Go on, start a new thread on the topic, haven't seen one in a few days now ubbtickled

m

Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.


[Nx?]BRONZE Member
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Location: Europe,Scotland,Both


Posted:
box (yes!)

4 a-sync

wave

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-><- Kallisti


colemanSILVER Member
big and good and broken
7,330 posts
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
second only to the text i got last night that just said 'box' this is the most cryptic message i've read of late.



and that's saying something seeing as i'm reding lewis carroll at the moment.



name a toy and i might get it.



and if ya say balls i want a type.



and if that type isn't 'contact' i demand numbers.



and well done wink kiss

"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood


[Nx?]BRONZE Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,749 posts
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both


Posted:
humm,

Toy: cheap juggling balls

trick: 4 ball a-sync and 3 ball box.

catches:19 4 ball and 9 box, which is still officially juggling.

T wave

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-><- Kallisti


BirdGOLD Member
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6,086 posts
Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom


Posted:
WOOHOO!!!!

Finally an isolated buzzsaw!!!!

and a very untidy butterfly weave!!

*wanders off to tidy it up*

ubbloco

My state of mind is not yours to define!

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."


tennisBRONZE Member
confused and abused
363 posts
Location: bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
got my first ever btb airwrap but i think it's one of those things that just happened and will never be repeated again without looking like too much effort and untidy.

But i came up with an under the leg fountain! now i just have to practice it when i'm not too celebrally inebriated and i can stand on one leg for long enough...
Oh and a couple of butterfly throws.

tongueStoked cool

Tennis

P.S bird congrats on the isolated buzzsaw. it's such a lovely mindbender of a trick to non spinners. biggrin

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BirdGOLD Member
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6,086 posts
Location: Cornwall, United Kingdom


Posted:
From what I have seen, tis a mindbender to other spinners too, if they can't do it! wink

I've still not got it very neat yet, but its coming!

weavesmiley

My state of mind is not yours to define!

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."


bubblishisFalse Eyelash
346 posts
Location: New York City


Posted:
I just got the 5bt weave! biggrin it wasn't nearly as hard as I thought. Yay! And I've nearly managed a 4bt TTN.

Not too shabby for 1 afternoon.


All the freaky people make the beauty of the world.


TheWibblerGOLD Member
old hand
920 posts
Location: New Zealand


Posted:
Hey Bubblishis, well done on the 5W and the 4B ~ are they 'New To You?' wink

keep up the good work,

¦m¦

Spherculism ~:~ The Act of becoming Spherculish.


ASTRO FAERIEBRONZE Member
ummmmmmm.............
724 posts
Location: Rotherham, UK


Posted:
I got the butterfly weave last night thanks to TEMPEST!. biggrin

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and the last river has been poisoned
and the last fish has been caught
will we realise that we
cannot eat money.

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bubblishisFalse Eyelash
346 posts
Location: New York City


Posted:
Gracias Senor PoiPoi! Yes and yes - both are new. All of this is new actually. New is pretty fun. I'm a big fan of new.

Congrats Astro Faerie! Mad phat hella props to you.

hug


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telicI don't want a title.
940 posts

Posted:
Let's see, recent successes.. finally got the butterfly weave (thanks to.. me! Yes, me! Okay, fine, NYC verified that I was doing what I thought I was doing. A little credit for that. biggrin ), and a smoother hyperloop in me corkscrew, and what may or may not be a 7bt weave (w/wraps, not with wacky extra joints).. actually, finally got a few wraps... and what I'm told is indeed a simplistic flower.. and that's it. And I managed a tangled buzzsaw once, then failed to repeat it. Making progress with isolations, but not there yet. Grarh. Not too shabby (by my personal standards), considering that I spend all my freakin' time on work and school.

E pluribus unum, baby.


bubblishisFalse Eyelash
346 posts
Location: New York City


Posted:
Lookitchoo rockin out every which way! Go girl. cool


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bluecatgeek, level 1
5,300 posts
Location: everywhere


Posted:
ooooh oooh yesterday i had a lurvely spin at spitz, and learnt the following:



uglies in to ubbidea pretties

absolutely no idea how to describe it frown

*shouts for coleman to wander over and explain*



continuous airwrap stepthroughs



all sorts of wierdities with a couple of sticks.



a way out of the 'hangman'



pirouette airwraps(thanks simian for the reminder)



the REAL 'thread the needle' ubblol ubblol ubblol



tehe

a happy cat

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Kitveteran
1,269 posts
Location: middle of Troon


Posted:
i managed to do the one where, ok for the purposes of theis convo we'll call it carolines trick, then i somehow did a funny corkscrew but i dunno what it was i did different looked cool though,

oh and realised when i needed to check my watch mid spin i could do one handed butter flyt too biggrin:D:D:D ubblol ubblol

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zeuyaBRONZE Member
member
22 posts
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom


Posted:
yay yay yaaaay!
after months of hitting myself in the face, i learnt, last night to do behind the back weave!!!! yay!

thought i'd let you know biggrin

Heathmember
36 posts

Posted:
Today I nailed 5bt reverse weave and 5bt reverse ttn. I can presumably also do the 5bt "impossible weave" as I've been almost doing it, only with a funky split time 4bt ttn on the reverse side. Had to really work on my wrist flexibilty to get the 5bt reverse weave. Speaking of which, I wonder if anyone knows any tubby guys with short arms that can do btb weave. This is one of the only moves that I have yet to learn and the problem I'm having seems to be a physiological one. Being relatively rotund and having shortish arms, I can't really cross my wrists behind my back. I've been stretching quite a bit, I hope that will resolve the problem.

P.S. I've been spinning for 3 months.

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