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BigDav
BigDav

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Location: Derry, N. Ireland
Member Since: 20th Jul 2003
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Posted:Hi Folks

I just want to pick your brains for a minute

I am thinking about ordering a Ninja costume for when I do my fire performances.

It is made from 100% Polyester

According to the clothing section of HoP it does not ignite for about 10 seconds. But when it does it melts etc etc etc

Is it worth buying the costume or should i try and find something else?

If I have to find something else - what material do you recommend?

Dav


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flid
flid

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Warwickshire
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Posted:do you have medical insurance?

I wouldn't personally, but if you can get a small piece of material its made of then you can test it. If it melts straight away like a lot of plastic based materials it's not a good idea.


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ben-ja-men
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Location: Adelaide
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Posted:i dunno melting to the skin ........... if i was you i would get someone to sew up a costume for you, that or go to a martial arts shop and just get a black uniform(im quite sure they arent made of polyester i could be wrong)

why do u want to have a ninja constume for performing? i just wear black pants and get body painted nice tribal feel. its cool as in you dont get hot so fast and there is nothing to catch your staff poi on.


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BigDav
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Location: Derry, N. Ireland
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Posted:dont need medical insurance - im in the UK! [Evil Laugh]

how can i ask the company im going to buy it from that I want a tester piece so that I can set it on fire?

Maybe I could buy it and return it burnt to a cinder and say it suffered from spontanious combustion!


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BigDav
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Location: Derry, N. Ireland
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Posted:i normally wear a pair of black jeans and a black top

i just want somthing a little better looking

Im not somone who can go topless as im overweight and i dont think that the audience would like to see painted man boobs hahaha


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oli
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Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
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Posted:even if Polyester didnt melt, and was fire proof, would you really want to wear it? i think it looks and feels a bit c**p... you can tell its fake, its totally non-natural.. get something cotton, much nicer to wear.

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Tarrie
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Location: Sheffield, Uk
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Posted:personally i would say a big fat NO to the polyester... fire + polyester = muchos pain and lotsa hospital food (most probably through a straw). I like the ninja idea tho....

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Tarrie
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Location: Sheffield, Uk
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Posted:oh, and theres nothing wrong with painted man boobs

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KristieEB
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Location: Oakland, CA
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Posted:and i think the ten seconds it states it would take until it catches aflame ... has absolutely nothing to do with the time it would take to melt the surface (smear!) or all the way through to your skin (owwwwie!)



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Cantus
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by BigDav:
dont need medical insurance - im in the UK! [Evil Laugh] So if you get seriously burnt and can't work for a very long time how do you plan to live/eat/etc?


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BigDav
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Location: Derry, N. Ireland
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Posted:ok i am really put off withg the ninja costume

WHAT MATERIAL DO U RECOMMEND?


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Pele
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Location: WNY, USA
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Posted:Most martial art uniforms are cotton. Just look into getting a real one. They are heavy duty, durable and able to move with the body.

Polyester takes about 10 secs to burst into flame. Prior to that it melts in this great billow of black smoke and noxious fumes. The melting polyester (very much like plastic) becomes embedded in the skin and needs to be medically removed. It is pretty nasty. Just for general information.


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mech
mech

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Posted:id agree with the others, go to a martial arts store, tell them what you want it for and ask for a cotton kit!

or you could e-mail a few on-line comapnys to find out if they have cotton suits?


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Kat
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Posted:A resounding no from me!! Plastic burns are not fun, I had a little biity one and it took layers off skin off!

I'm with the others,invest in some cotton and you can easily make your own outfit, try and purchase some black Tabi to set off the outfit, and voila! Ninja poi warrior.


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BigDav
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Location: Derry, N. Ireland
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Posted:Thanks to everyone who replied to this post

I will get myself a nice cotton costume. All I need to do is find somewere that sells martial arts stuff. There is none in my town


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Angel_Xpress
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Location: B,ham/Sheffield
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Posted:Hi Dav,

i don't mean to be mean, but i can't belive you were seriously thinking of buying a ninja siut made from polyester

anyway, i have been looking on the web for you and i have found a site based in Manchester www.nwssportsuk.co.uk

I hope this helps.

Bye Bye

Angel


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polythene
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Posted:I can't remember the name of the thread, but it was something like 'you too can be ninja', in social... shows you how to convert a black t-shirt (cotton! yay!) into ninja gear... worth a try?

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Faberg
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Location: Dublin, Ireland
Member Since: 26th Aug 2003
Total posts: 1459
Posted:Hi Davin,

Here's a link to a martial arts A to Z site.

I hope you find what you're looking for...

http://www.wellwin.u-net.com/mad/az.htm
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Lisa


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BigDav
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Location: Derry, N. Ireland
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Posted:hi angel

im only new to all this fire stuff and i dont know about the flamability of materials. Thats why i posted the thread, to ask the experts advice like yourself!

We all have to start somewhere and learn everything the hard way


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Angel_Xpress
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Location: B,ham/Sheffield
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Posted:Big Dav,

Sorry i look at your website and thought you'd been at it for years.

BTW i like the picture on your site.

Angel


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funkymonky
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Posted:why dont you save the money from the nija outfit (damm cool idea althe same).... use the money on some weights and shit.... wreack your body for a few weeks with sit ups and all manour of toning exercises and do it topless..... chicks'll love it (any girls going to disagree with fit guys fire poiing topless? didn't think so) and guys will.. well.... just do it in front of women... lots of them..... make them get topless too.... hmmm... really gotta go see my girlfriend......

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Doc Lightning
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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Member Since: 28th May 2001
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Posted:quote:Originally posted by flid:
do you have medical insurance?
Medical insurance does not protect one from injury. Either way, you have burning polyester melted into your skin. Either way, you'll need to go to the hospital and get treated, either way you'll likely be scarred for life, and if you don't have insurance, you'll be in debt, too.

So polyester is a GREAT idea if you fancy having melting plastic fusing with your skin. Otherwise, stick to no more than a 70% cotton/30% synthetic mix.


-Mike )'(
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KristieEB
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Location: Oakland, CA
Member Since: 17th Sep 2003
Total posts: 108
Posted:mmmmm
*nngghh*
topless boys with fire!
*mmmmmm*

but ... i'm just addicted to skin!

i find myself in a similar situation. a newbie that could lose a few pounds (and maybe years) to look all hot weilding fire ... but i say **** it! i have started losing a little weight but am more worried about the poi hitting me at this point than the tautness of my belly ...


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BigDav
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Location: Derry, N. Ireland
Member Since: 20th Jul 2003
Total posts: 175
Posted:it will take more than weights to get the weight that i need to get off me LOL

The pics on my site are not all of me - just a few samples until i get more pics of myself. I have a couple of rolls that I need to leave in to be developed , but im just to busy (ok lazy) to drive all the way to the chemists and hand it in.

I have a friend who is great with words and spiced up the wording of my website to make me look better than i actually am Har de Har Har!


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