Forums > Advanced Staff moves > long esposure contact pictures?

Posted: 5th Jan 2009
The thing is, contact staff moves tend to not to create such interesting patterns, so the long exposure fun is kinda lost on them. imo

unlike poi, which has become so much about pattern (understandably), contact staff is more about the manipulation of a stick with your body, without much attention payed to the pattern the ends trace, but rather, the over all pattern of the stick in relation to the body.

so...if you play with it, id love to see pictures, i just feel that the artform isnt as cut out for still photography as poi is.

Posted: 6th Jan 2009
i know Meg has a bad ass pic of an angel roll on her...business site i guess youd call it.

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Posted: 6th Jan 2009
Tankboy: yeah i thought that would be the case, but surely there's still some out there...? dunno... when i get good and possess a fire staff ill do it =)

Poje: cool, ill see if i can find that =)

thanks,
PJB21

Posted: 7th Jan 2009
I've done a few long exposures with contact but as Tankboy says, they dont look very good. The matrix just turns into a big firey ball and you cant make out anything in the middle, angel rolls look ok cos they have a low number of beats and travel a reasonable distance, fishtails look like a figure of 8, just a circle. SNES, Steves, conveyors all look crap, headspins look ok as do chest spins but you need a fast exposure to catch any detail.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2009
Yeah I agree, I did a photography project on fire arts a year ago and the staff moves often created less interesting effects than the poi did.

I mostly used the staff to slowly draw interesting shapes and movements as opposed to actually recording myself performing contact stuff. Things like... https://www.homeofpoi.com/gallery/showpho...=500&page=1

(Which isn't very good anyway :p)

My friends say that they always prefer watching firestaff displays, but for pictures and the like - they think that poi look more dramatic.

There are a few kickass fire staff pics out there though.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2009
Long exposure for Doubles however can look awesome like poi but with 4 point of lights I wonder if staff on staff contact would produce a good pic? would have to be not too long an exposure otherwise it could turn into a ball of light.

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

Posted: 17th Feb 2009
What if the pictures were taken from above? Seems like many contact staff moves involve the staff being horizontal, so the light trails would be confused.

Maybe that's a whole new avenue to explore: staff patterns that make good photo trails.

Oooh, like a kickup over the head to a catch on the other side. Firey rainbow?
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Posted: 18th Feb 2009
Good things can be done... but I really can't show you yet...

Posted: 19th Feb 2009
i think above would work quite well.
the best i have seen is if you do the staffing on a reflective surface like shallow water. so you get both the front on and from below.
it really helps to place the trails around the body.

Posted: 23rd Feb 2009
I like making flower patterns by doing rotors (two hands) and moving the centre of rotation around:

https://nkguy.com/temporary/aran/large-4.html


I'd like to see the photography of contact staff focusing on the staff around the body, rather than the fire trails themselves - the staff as it goes around, during a matrix move, is simply incredible ... never mind the trails