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Location: Madrid, Spain
215 posts
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posted:
i know this may have been discusse before, but im searching and i havent found what im looking for.
basically ive been called to do a fire breathing for a tv show (its gonna be recorded, no live tv to get burnt on
), and ive been asked how much i charge. thats the problem, I HAVE NOOO FRIGGIN IDEA!!
any ideas as quick as possible, please?
(theyre waiting for my call, if i dont get any answers im going to say about 120euro, do you think its ok?)
thx very much
i know this may have been discusse before, but im searching and i havent found what im looking for.
basically ive been called to do a fire breathing for a tv show (its gonna be recorded, no live tv to get burnt on
), and ive been asked how much i charge. thats the problem, I HAVE NOOO FRIGGIN IDEA!!any ideas as quick as possible, please?
(theyre waiting for my call, if i dont get any answers im going to say about 120euro, do you think its ok?)
thx very much
Don't you destroy your enemy by making him your friend?? - Rev Bem (Magog), Andromeda
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Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
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Posted:
Bearing in mind it's for TV, and you cannot get insurance for yourself (to cover your own injuries) on fire breathing, I think your selling yourself short.
Bearing in mind it's for TV, and you cannot get insurance for yourself (to cover your own injuries) on fire breathing, I think your selling yourself short.
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Geek-enviro-hippy priest
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Location: Diss, Norfolk, United Kingdom
Geek-enviro-hippy priest
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Location: Diss, Norfolk, United Kingdom
Posted:
I'd say double it at least.
I'd say double it at least.
There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees
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Posted:
i'd say dont bother! .. its not worth your life.
i'd say dont bother! .. its not worth your life.
enthusiast
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Location: uk
328 posts
Location: uk
Posted:
Considering what the're asking for and that all professional requirements for a fire arts show still apply, risk assessments and public liability insurrance etc, fire safety and compliance with any and all local legislation regarding performing arts with fire and I'm assuming this comercial product (show) rather than a charity production, I would be charging in the order of around £400.00 plus any and all expences incurred.
Just to clarify, the production team would getting a set piece, for which they would be expected to get the filming right for, this would cover approximately between 5 and 10 minutes of 'performance'
mark
Considering what the're asking for and that all professional requirements for a fire arts show still apply, risk assessments and public liability insurrance etc, fire safety and compliance with any and all local legislation regarding performing arts with fire and I'm assuming this comercial product (show) rather than a charity production, I would be charging in the order of around £400.00 plus any and all expences incurred.
Just to clarify, the production team would getting a set piece, for which they would be expected to get the filming right for, this would cover approximately between 5 and 10 minutes of 'performance'
mark
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Location: United Kingdom
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Posted:
100 billion Dollars (American) would see a secured signature from me.
120 euro.. 400 quid...
your life, your risk. 
100 billion Dollars (American) would see a secured signature from me.
120 euro.. 400 quid...
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Geek-enviro-hippy priest
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Location: Diss, Norfolk, United Kingdom
Geek-enviro-hippy priest
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Location: Diss, Norfolk, United Kingdom
Posted:
But for the people who do it anyway, it is fair to ask what price is good. I wouldn't do it for any amount of money, but some people are happy knowing the risks and doing it anyway.
For those people, there is no harm in trying to get the price right and not charging too little so as to de-value the art.
But for the people who do it anyway, it is fair to ask what price is good. I wouldn't do it for any amount of money, but some people are happy knowing the risks and doing it anyway.
For those people, there is no harm in trying to get the price right and not charging too little so as to de-value the art.
There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees
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the henna lady
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Location: WNY, USA
the henna lady
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Location: WNY, USA
Posted:
How many takes and how many times will you be expected to do it?
The price should be determined on that, not on the thought that it is a taped tv show, but more on how many times you are expected to put your life on the line.
How many takes and how many times will you be expected to do it?
The price should be determined on that, not on the thought that it is a taped tv show, but more on how many times you are expected to put your life on the line.
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Posted:
make the math:
potential medical bills + cost for cuffin * your remaining life expectancy (without fire breathing) / by the IQ of the person who asks you (insert number below 0) * the number of people watching the show = minimum wage for fire breathers on TV
hope that helps
make the math:
potential medical bills + cost for cuffin * your remaining life expectancy (without fire breathing) / by the IQ of the person who asks you (insert number below 0) * the number of people watching the show = minimum wage for fire breathers on TV
hope that helps
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:
dude thats one sweet equation
£1000 - for 5 mins
id also say to the TV dude - firebreathing is crap - check this out:
*does huge staff burnoff*
Bigger - phatter, hotter and ill do it fo half the price
dude thats one sweet equation
£1000 - for 5 mins
id also say to the TV dude - firebreathing is crap - check this out:
*does huge staff burnoff*
Bigger - phatter, hotter and ill do it fo half the price
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Story of your life isn't it?
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Bigger - phatter, hotter and ill do it fo half the price
Story of your life isn't it?
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Posted:
only youd know
only youd know
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Posted:
when asked I quote minimum of £500 to show up then charge £50 per breathe after an agreed number for the original price.
when asked I quote minimum of £500 to show up then charge £50 per breathe after an agreed number for the original price.
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enthusiast
215 posts
Location: Madrid, Spain
215 posts
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posted:
today was the recording, it went all well, im all right and nobody got hurt
ok, so i screwed up with the price... im not happy about it, but well, i guess it was their luck
at least i made clear that it was the last time im going to do it for that price...
i had to breath two times, two takes... they liked it, so it was ok
i dunno if there is a difference between countries, but when i see your prices i have to think about one thing: do you get bookings at those prices? i know there are a lot of dangers involved, but i think i wouldnt get that for a full body burn here (i sometimes work as a stuntman). i know its different, in one you "just" have the fire on your back and run around risking just some burns and in the other you risk chemical burns in the lungs, which aren't funny at all... dunno, i guess im in the wrong country for that 
and now to top off, anybody from spain know anything about prices here? who knows, they could've been ripping me off without me even knowing
(maybe its what happens when you trust the people who get you the jobs... 
)
today was the recording, it went all well, im all right and nobody got hurt
ok, so i screwed up with the price... im not happy about it, but well, i guess it was their luck
at least i made clear that it was the last time im going to do it for that price...
i had to breath two times, two takes... they liked it, so it was ok
i dunno if there is a difference between countries, but when i see your prices i have to think about one thing: do you get bookings at those prices? i know there are a lot of dangers involved, but i think i wouldnt get that for a full body burn here (i sometimes work as a stuntman). i know its different, in one you "just"
have the fire on your back and run around risking just some burns and in the other you risk chemical burns in the lungs, which aren't funny at all... dunno, i guess im in the wrong country for that and now to top off, anybody from spain know anything about prices here? who knows, they could've been ripping me off without me even knowing
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enthusiast
215 posts
Location: Madrid, Spain
215 posts
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posted:
oh, and thanks for the answers
i like this script -> fire breathing
P.S.: dunno if the script works EVERY time
Edited for the PS
EDITED_BY: SaBBaS (1170344108)
oh, and thanks for the answers
i like this script -> fire breathing
P.S.: dunno if the script works EVERY time
Edited for the PS
EDITED_BY: SaBBaS (1170344108)
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grumpy poorly froggy
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Location: Nuneaton, United Kingdom
grumpy poorly froggy
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Location: Nuneaton, United Kingdom
Posted:
how much do you guys charge for other performances?
ie poi, staff etc. if there is a link i couldn't find it
how much do you guys charge for other performances?
ie poi, staff etc. if there is a link i couldn't find it
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Posted:
we charge about £300 day rate (workshop and fire show) depends what people want but rarely less than £100 per person
we charge about £300 day rate (workshop and fire show) depends what people want but rarely less than £100 per person
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