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Login/Join to ParticipatePirate Ninja
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Location: Galway/Ireland
*edit*
so i reckon this thread will hold a record of the new things and stuff im learning along the way, all input of any kind is welcome...
*edit*
*where was I? oh yeah here, The elbow, arm, arm elbow roll*
Its simple really, I cant do it.
I've seen some real nice clips of this move (Thankyou MCP/Glass) but I still seem to be missing somthing fundamental.
So I take the staff in my right hand, bring it accross my body under my extended left elbow and roll. extend left arm and let staff roll onto right arm. Bring staff back towards body on right arm
Now here is the problem, it just stops working there, I think i might be missing an extra beat/spin or something. Or it it could be the position of my wrist. Dont ask me what my wrist is doin, it goes all wonky in a natural reaction to the feeling of the staff falling off when i start bending my right arm on the way back in,
Any ideas?
If I can get this I'll move onto to trying to combine it with a shoulder rool and a turn to get it across my back and other shoulder.
I'm hoping to put up a clip soon, not of what i cant do but of what I can, after six months it's be cool to get some HOP feedback.
Love is the law.
Living it up
363 posts
Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia
He he, it's too hot to play here today...
Love the stuff you guys are coming up with.
A couple cross ideas
extra contact beats: playing around with a vert cross, the outside stick rolls over the back of the hand and is caught again (like the start of a hand elbow thingy minus the elbow). The inside stick is rolled over the forearm of the hand doing the other roll. Then inside hand just grabs it on the other side again. So both sticks keep to thier owner hand.
Static spins: easy enough for heli stuff (that would be holding the cross and turning in a circle), but try this vert as well. You get extra points for sticking your head through and making silly sound effects untill you fall over.
Matirx entry: There is a really nice way to go into a steve if you grab the 'wrong' stick out of a cross (the kind where the top stick is contacted on the bottom one. If you know that one already then on the hand change before you can grab the cross a bit more off centre so that it turns a bit more of a T shape. This will make it so that when it comes back to the other hand the bottom stick will be in a perfect postion to matrix down that arm. grr I made that sound much more confusing then it needs to be. Oh well. Heat. Make. Brain. Goblarg.
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
1,530 posts
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
lava i actually have no idea where to host it, i dont know where to start
i was goiing to leave it to jet but now her computer's [censored] and i baught an ibook with imovie on it i am goiing to have to do it
anyone got anyhwhere to host a short but sweet video of my spinning stoof
maybe more than one after a while
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old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
i can prob host it for you
if not i can make spymac work for you on you ibook, goood on you going mac!!
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
Yeah I can host it...
Just pm me and I'll tell ya how to upload it...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
mmmm crosses look sooo sweet with fire, and i finally got to try all the new stuff i learnt with fire as well (lazyness and bad weather are crap)
wooo happy bryn for many reasons
how are all else?
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
enthusiast
227 posts
Location: dublin Ireland
I just saw a really sweet new move last night. with the staff spinning clockwise in front of you, right hand wrap, elbow, layout, 180 degree turn to your right, then lift your arm a bit and it goes in to an angel roll. sweet!! this girl did elbow fishtails and stalls with them and wish i could do them. It was absolutly beautiful to watch!!
Grow old but never grow up
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
baton twirlers! "the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
enthusiast
227 posts
Location: dublin Ireland
Sorry meg but it was a really sweet move to watch.
Grow old but never grow up
Living it up
363 posts
Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia
Written by: mcp
Indeed.
But not so beautiful with broken legs now, are they?
:returns to dark alley, draging large metal contact staff:
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
1,530 posts
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
lol
why all the anger towards baton twirlers, only doing what they love, it may be fairly lame but meh, they probably think we look lame too
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ZORT!
3,045 posts
Location: Brisbane, Australia
awww come on guys!
you all just jealous cos you dont look as good is a shiny glitzy jumpsuit thing as the baton twirlers do!
"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
I do
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Living it up
363 posts
Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia
Written by: nate
why all the anger towards baton twirlers, only doing what they love, it may be fairly lame but meh, they probably think we look lame too
Fairly lame??? Have you seen what they do? If anything they are TOO good (costumes aside). Hence my tounge in cheek not-so-purdy-now-ey comment.
:Pops on some sunnies to deflect the blinding light from ado-p's shiny glitzy jumpsuit thing:
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
they are pretty lame, they don't take pride in their appearance, and they don't seem to have an concerns about the artistry of their performances. (Which is probably due to the judges and coaches) The japanese pair from osaka 2004 were amazing thou. They really showed what a good routine should look like. Everything else was a bit pants.
Why am I here?
...
ahhhhh,
was playing last night with holding two sticks 3/4 way along on the metal in one hand and getting them to circle each other, by constant hand squishing. The other pattern I can do is a kind of butterfly pattern, where with a bigger squish they cut across to the other side, then with a tiny bit of circling they can be made to do it continuously, (in the fashion of that rings move).
Anybody have any other things you could do with this?
(This is a move ben showed off from some weird performance at a juggling convention.)
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
mmmm that performance was very artistic he did sooo much cool stuff, wish id videoed it
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?
Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
1,530 posts
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
squish? hand squishing, talk sense man, what are they, they sound weird
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Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland
squish?
i think i might what you mean, but if i do i dont get how the wicks pass each other.
are we talking dextrous squishing here?
Love is the law.
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
by squishing, I mean gripping a bit harder to force the staffs with your grip o manly strength.
and yes, much dextrous bloody hell my deltoids and forearm mucles are absolutely caned now stuff results.
maybe you could do it the other way up... hmmm, or horizontal...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
can i have a video of it please????
oo things i have learnt.....that i can pass exams, a lil french, but nothing exciting with sticks, well weave (knox style single stick) and i think the start of gettin continous(sp) back and shoulders contact stuff, with intention, rather than by accident
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
oh hell no!
Do you think I have a video camera? Nup.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
well i did think you did, but now im not sure, ummmmm get some one to film it at uberstaffness and then can i see? ( i know its a long time away)
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
hehe meg ur so slack, i would do one but thatd mean getting dressed and getting out of the lovely hammock im sitting in, its sooo nice sitting in the sun
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
Yeah I know, We're due for a uber summer this year. Thank you global warming.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
mmm somethign new, not solid yet, but as i say its new.........ok
so staff starts in a steve, left hand, down the outside of the arm...(you know the usual) up th right arm, and back down, but rather than doing a thoat side wrap, duck a little, and let the staff spin round theback of the neck again, and put the left arm out flat, and it wil spin on your arm a few times before you catch it.
oh and halos coming out and in to fishtails, on the left hand side, again not solid, but its getting there now
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
1,530 posts
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
sounds like someone's been practising, very good lava
look forward to spinning with you again, and maybe learning a few of these things
I like Languages.
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old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
im always practicing!!!!
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
ahhhhh smooth btb entry halo rolls to btb exit. plus yesterday i almost got fishtail angel fishtail... but the exit to fishtail is quite hard...
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK
how doyou get the BTB exit? let the staff transition its self down the outside of the arm?
fishtail angle fishtail sounds sweet!!
Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars
Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom
ANGEL ROLLS!
NOT ANGLE ROLLS!!!
ARGH!
and er, no, btb under armpit catch.
"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade
I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia
fishtail angel fishtail is soooooooo last year
transition paths is where its at
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?
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