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Take me disappearing through the smoke rings of my mind....
Bob Dylan
Written by: jeff(fake)Written by: gita
is anyone else getting dizzy reading this thread?
I'm certainly learning a lot about the "open mindedness" and "politeness" of people who believe in auras.
do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good to eat!
if at first you do succeed, try not to look too astonished!
smile! :grin: it confuses people!
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
Written by: Rouge Dragon
volunteer ey? so they'd then also be biased because they volunteered?
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
Written by: Rouge Dragon
willing to "budge" from your beliefs?
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: Rouge Dragon
A psychic correct me if I am wrong, but I would think a psychic wouldn't do anything to anyone not explicitly willing because of the kind of level psychics deal with people on. We're leaving superficial levels here.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: jeff(fake)
If Valura can perform positively in the experiment I proposed I would certainly take notice. I would probably request a follow up and a film of it, perhaps go out to conduct one myself.
If the follow ups were positive I would apply for Randi's prize, and certainly believe Valura's claim.
That's what it means to be open minded.
do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good to eat!
if at first you do succeed, try not to look too astonished!
smile! :grin: it confuses people!
Written by: gitaWritten by: jeff(fake)
If Valura can perform positively in the experiment I proposed I would certainly take notice. I would probably request a follow up and a film of it, perhaps go out to conduct one myself.
If the follow ups were positive I would apply for Randi's prize, and certainly believe Valura's claim.
That's what it means to be open minded.
i'm sure there are a few people here on hop that could vouch for valura's abilities...or you could come to oz & see for yourself.
why does valura have to prove herself to you? there are plenty of others out there who have these abilities. i'm sure there are plenty of articles & evidence about it out there (it's way too late & i'm way too tired to go looking right now, but i know it's been mentioned in here before).
also - is this whole thing about the stupid prize?!
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"Absence is to love what wind is to fire...it extinguishes the small, enkindles the great."
--Comte Debussy-Rebutin
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"Absence is to love what wind is to fire...it extinguishes the small, enkindles the great."
--Comte Debussy-Rebutin
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
Written by: jeff(fake)#Written by: Rouge Dragon
willing to "budge" from your beliefs?
Yes. That's what it means to be a good scientist.
If Valura can perform positively in the experiment I proposed I would certainly take notice. I would probably request a follow up and a film of it, perhaps go out to conduct one myself.
If the follow ups were positive I would apply for Randi's prize, and certainly believe Valura's claim.
That's what it means to be open minded.
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry pratchett
Written by: jeff(fake)Written by: gita
is anyone else getting dizzy reading this thread?
I'm certainly learning a lot about the "open mindedness" and "politeness" of people who believe in auras.
:admires giant wooden aeroplane: Its about time trees were good for something, instead of just standing their like jerks!!!
Homer rocks!!!!
Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.
--pogo (pat) [forever and always]
:admires giant wooden aeroplane: Its about time trees were good for something, instead of just standing their like jerks!!!
Homer rocks!!!!
Written by: jo_rhymes
GitasGuy, Jeff has not once insulted anyone.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
Written by: onewheeldave
I should also point out that critisism of and issues with, protocols/methodologies is not restricted to investigations into the paranormal- many a purely scientific study has fallen short of the standard required (for example, the experiments claiming to establish 'cold-fusion' ).
It's very, very difficult to ensure that a scientific study is free of flaws or innapropriate influence.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
Written by: Valura
One thing I must say... Uri Gellar, david Blaine and derran brown, are NOT mediums.
As you say one wheel dave ~All do basically the same thing, which is 'unnatural/amazing/bewildering' feats for entertainment/profit.
Mediums shouldnt be judged on these people as they are as different as night and day when it comes to how they work.
Written by: Valura
For example, I am most distressed at the former link put up by Robnunchucks in regards to Derran Brown.
Working as a medium I find that people who are genuine fakes and do these sort of experiments are cruel and they disgust me.
Those people that Mr Brown was "fishing" were all in belief that he was doing his best to contact their passed family members, and when they found out he was conning them, that would have been incrdibly painful. How dare he hurt them like that.
There are people out there who have a need to contact passed loved ones to heal and move on with life.
To have people like THAT out there gives the gunenily gifted people a bad name. THAT MAKES ME MAD.
You cant lump mediums, cairvoyants, conjurers, tricksters, magic users like David Blaine and Cruel conmen like Derran Brown all together in the one catergory, they all do totally different things.
Thats like saying all the people who play a ball sport play soccer.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: ValuraWritten by: onewheeldave
I should also point out that critisism of and issues with, protocols/methodologies is not restricted to investigations into the paranormal- many a purely scientific study has fallen short of the standard required (for example, the experiments claiming to establish 'cold-fusion' ).
It's very, very difficult to ensure that a scientific study is free of flaws or innapropriate influence.
If that is the case then isnt the entire request of testing me a huge waste of time in the first place?
If the 'test' was very difficult to prove to be free from outside inapropiate influence, then it wouldnt be fair to either party, and I have been getting goaded into taking a test which will in the end prove NOTHING.
now thats frusterating.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: Valura
If that is the case then isnt the entire request of testing me a huge waste of time in the first place?
If the 'test' was very difficult to prove to be free from outside inapropiate influence, then it wouldnt be fair to either party, and I have been getting goaded into taking a test which will in the end prove NOTHING.
now thats frusterating.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!