Idolized by Aurinoko
Take me disappearing through the smoke rings of my mind....
Bob Dylan
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
Written by: Dr Valerie Hunt
Dr. Valorie Hunt - and colleagues at UCLA, published "A Study of Structural Neuromuscular Energy Field and Emotional Approaches", which is a study of the effects of Rolfing on the body and the psyche. She placed electrodes on the skin to record the low millivoltage signals from the body during rolfing sessions. Rosalyn Bruyere observed the auras and recorded her observations of both the rolfer and the patient. Breyere's observations were recorded on the same tape as the electronic data. She described the color, size, and energy movements of the chakras, and auric clouds, or HEF, involved.
Scientists then mathematically analyzed the wave patterns recorded by a Fourier analysis and a sonogram frequency analysis. The wave forms and frequencies reported by Rosalyn Bruyere correlated specifically with the colors reported. When Breyere saw blue in the HEF at a specific location, the electronic measurements would always show the characteristic blue wave form and frequency in the same location.
Hunt repeated this experiment with seven other aura readers. Each of the seven also saw auric colors that correlated with the same frequency wave patterns. In 1988, the results of their research showed these color and frequency correlations. Dr. Hunt says, "Throughout the centuries in which sensitives have seen and described the auric emissions, this is the first objective electronic evidence of frequency, amplitude and time, which validates their subjective observation of color discharge."
Love is the law.
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
Love is the law.
"vices are like genitals - most are ugly to behold, and yet we find that our own are dear to us."
(G.W. Dahlquist)
Owner of Dragosani's left half
Written by: ado-p
Perhaps you guys could follow up on this and do some more research. Some examples of peer reviewed articles on the same or similiar subject matter would be great.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.
Written by: jo_rhymes
ok how about this, maybe me, Valura, and any other people who experience aura's just have something wrong in the brain. Otherwise we're perfectly normal (almost! )
Written by: 87wt2gxq7
jeff, which journals and which papers? Any url links (as I don't have access to a university library)?
I'd love to have a look at some.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
Written by: jeff(fake)Written by: ado-p
Perhaps you guys could follow up on this and do some more research. Some examples of peer reviewed articles on the same or similiar subject matter would be great.
A search through the respected journals shows a number of hypothetical pieces supporting Rob's hypothesis of synaesthetia, but no evidence that anyone can literally detect any energy fields which would correspond to the notion of an "aura".
Love is the law.
Hoppers are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly.
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
Spin, bounce, be one with the world, because it is yours to enjoy...
Written by: robnunchucks
no that is not the rational thing to do because you never actually checked to make sure it wasn't just all in your head you just assumed it wasn't. you'll also note that none of the other people the aura group check to make sure it wasn't all in there head they simply assumed it wasn't. this assumption is the problem.
the rational thing to do would be to test your abilities using controlled scientific methods to determine if it was all in your head or not? only after you passed those tests could you say that logically it wasn't all in your head
Written by: jeff(fake)Written by: Valura
well Jeff fails to answer the questions yet again.
If you have a question which you believe is relevant that wasn't addressed then feel free to repost it.
Written by: jeff(fake)
Quote~ Jeff fake "If the follow ups were positive I would apply for Randi's prize, and certainly believe Valura's claim."
Written by: onewheeldave
What's striking about this thread is how so many participants have wound up feeling personally attacked.
Valura, there's been no indication from you or anyone else that you've been in any way offended by anything I've said, but, judging by how slighted you've felt by some of Jeffs posts and, having read in one of your previous posts just how big a part of your life the energy stuff is- I feel there is a risk of it.
So, if I have, I'll apologise and say honestly that it was not my intention.
Written by: Birgit
Rob has a point. There are many people who perceive themselves as being too fat when they're starved nearly to death. Or my previous examples of OCDs and paranoia. Are all those people right just because others share their perceptions?
Written by: robnunchucks
and I’d like to that this isn't news i agree completely that meditation can give people extraordinary control over there heart rate breathing etc. this is something that has been shown in scientifically verifiable tests over and over again. meditation is a very powerful technique but there’s nothing mystical about it many scientific studies have been done and our understanding of meditation has come on leaps and bounds in the last 50 years.
Written by: robnunchucks
also jo have you ever thought of testing your self if you can feel auras a good test would be to blind fold your self then have someone put there hand close to one of yours and see if you can tell which hand there close to.
Written by: Bonzelite
conventional sciences are limited by their adherence to only what can be literally detected, inferred by default to official theories, or what can only be mathematically "detected." and yet, still, this results in myriad theories that cannot be proven beyond doubt. so i don't understand why these conventional practices to acquire data are legitimate, and other means to acquire data are illegitimate. and not just means of acquisition, but belief in other means. belief in other possibilities, especially when there is also evidence for such "illegitimate" things.
therefore, the official word is then based upon accepted beliefs, stigma, and then unaccepted beliefs. the refusal to accept the possibility of other belief systems is, in my view, largely a function of habit and stigma. nobody wants to change if they are content with the present, and if coming out of the closet on a belief will alienate peers, a nay saying stance is the safe bet.
for example, i have experienced paranormal events throughout my life. i have been told by others, sharing in these experiences, that i have psychic ability, i.e., like a "medium." there are differing levels of psychic ability. some people are empaths, able to adopt other's feelings and tell about someone’s' day; others are super-advanced and can see future events or past events based upon intuitive feelings and by visiting an area or having a vibration from physical objects. such people can deliver extremely accurate information, much to the amazement of others.
but this is all B.S. according to official science.
therefore, i do not consider whatsoever "official" science to be official. it simply is not. our sciences are still yet quite in the dark ages. and the refusal to accept paranormal experiences, as one example, as valid experiences that are scientific, is, to me, myopic and negligent.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
Written by: BansheeCat
Again, it is difficult and somewhat silly to convince someone that they are not experiencing something that they are in fact experiencing, regardless of if you attempt to use scientific method . Anaolgy: A patient goes to the doctor, and say I am in pain. After a thorough medical examination, the doctor can not find anything that would cause pain, so states that the pain must be in their head- or worse yet, that they must not be in pain.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
"Absence is to love what wind is to fire...it extinguishes the small, enkindles the great."
--Comte Debussy-Rebutin
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
Written by: ValuraWritten by: robnunchucks
no that is not the rational thing to do because you never actually checked to make sure it wasn't just all in your head you just assumed it wasn't. you'll also note that none of the other people the aura group check to make sure it wasn't all in there head they simply assumed it wasn't. this assumption is the problem.
the rational thing to do would be to test your abilities using controlled scientific methods to determine if it was all in your head or not? only after you passed those tests could you say that logically it wasn't all in your head
I am getting so frustrated here I could scream.
As I have posted four or five pages ago.
I have been medically tested to make sure this stuff wasn’t just ‘in my head’ right.
Written by: valuraWritten by: jeff(fake)Written by: Valura
well Jeff fails to answer the questions yet again.
If you have a question which you believe is relevant that wasn't addressed then feel free to repost it.Written by: jeff(fake)
Quote~ Jeff fake "If the follow ups were positive I would apply for Randi's prize, and certainly believe Valura's claim."
Are you saying YOU would apply for PROFIT from MY gift?
Yeah so are ya….?
Written by: Valura
I have done that so many times its normal to me. I’m pretty sure it would be quite normal to Jo also. I’m a reiki Master so I work with energy on a daily basis, and I can quite easily create a ball of energy. Or use my hands to scan the body of another and feel where there is problem energy. It feels hot and tingly.
If someone put there hands over mine I would know which one immediately.
I am starting to believe that no matter how much evidence is given, pseudo science or not, irrefutable or not, the sceptics are still going to reject the possibilities.
I also think that’s because they haven’t had control over the tests themselves so therefore couldn’t draw the conclusions that they believe are to be true… even if perhaps there is evidence that contradicts their proposed hypothesis. How could we even begin to make such tests fair?
Written by: Valura
I have found a quote written by a man called bonzelite who says what I want to in a very eloquent way, perhaps it may appeal to some…
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: jeff(fake)
Well I think the responses from the scientists on this thread show that bonzelite has formed a straw man. We have been consistently open to being proven wrong, and in fact have welcomed challenge .
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: onewheeldaveWritten by: jeff(fake)
Well I think the responses from the scientists on this thread show that bonzelite has formed a straw man. We have been consistently open to being proven wrong, and in fact have welcomed challenge .
Remember that not everyone here understands what 'forming a straw man' means- use of obscure/specialised terminology is one of the things that can lead to tension on threads like this.
It's could easily be avoided by including a brief explantion of what 'straw man' means.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...