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342 posts
Location: Vermont, USA
Posted:
ok, I know the fallacy, I also know its old, so don't post it and ruin it for the confusable folks...
CLASSIC PROOF
Given A and B are two equal real numbers
A=B
A^2=AB
A^2-B^2=AB-B^2
(A+B)(A-B)=B(A-B)
(A+B)=B
2B=B
2=1
EXTENDING PROOF BY INDUCTION:
Proposition:
Show that the following statement P(n) is true for all n>=1
Sum from 1 to n of n/n equals 42
Base Case:
n=1;sum from 1 to n =1
1=2
2=1+1
1+1=2+2
4=1+1+1+1
1+1+1+1=2+2+2+2
8=1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2
16=1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2
32=1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+22
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+22=2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+22
2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+22=42
Therefore P(1) =42
Inductive Case:
Given P(k)=42 for k>=1 and is a member of the integers
P(k+1)=43
43=41+2
41+2=41+1
41+1=42
Therefore P(k+1)=42
Therefore P(n) =42 for all integers n>=1
Therefore all integers greater than zero equal 42
QED
if anyone wants to work this out for all reals, it is possible, I just don't have time...
on to network problem
I have two xp pro boxes... each is connected to a router and from there to cable internet via a 100t ethernet. one is a notebook. i just got two 802.11g cards, one for each computer, and I want to set it up so that the notebook gets internet through the 100t when connected and through an ad hoc wifi connection when not. i need help getting my desktop to share its connection over the wifi, and help getting the notebook to accept it. I want to make sure I retain docked capabilities and that the notebook makes the switch rather seemlessly, any ideas?
ok, I know the fallacy, I also know its old, so don't post it and ruin it for the confusable folks...
CLASSIC PROOF
Given A and B are two equal real numbers
A=B
A^2=AB
A^2-B^2=AB-B^2
(A+B)(A-B)=B(A-B)
(A+B)=B
2B=B
2=1
EXTENDING PROOF BY INDUCTION:
Proposition:
Show that the following statement P(n) is true for all n>=1
Sum from 1 to n of n/n equals 42
Base Case:
n=1;sum from 1 to n =1
1=2
2=1+1
1+1=2+2
4=1+1+1+1
1+1+1+1=2+2+2+2
8=1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2
16=1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1=2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2
32=1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+22
1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+22=2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+22
2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+22=42
Therefore P(1) =42
Inductive Case:
Given P(k)=42 for k>=1 and is a member of the integers
P(k+1)=43
43=41+2
41+2=41+1
41+1=42
Therefore P(k+1)=42
Therefore P(n) =42 for all integers n>=1
Therefore all integers greater than zero equal 42
QED
if anyone wants to work this out for all reals, it is possible, I just don't have time...
on to network problem
I have two xp pro boxes... each is connected to a router and from there to cable internet via a 100t ethernet. one is a notebook. i just got two 802.11g cards, one for each computer, and I want to set it up so that the notebook gets internet through the 100t when connected and through an ad hoc wifi connection when not. i need help getting my desktop to share its connection over the wifi, and help getting the notebook to accept it. I want to make sure I retain docked capabilities and that the notebook makes the switch rather seemlessly, any ideas?
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Posted:
yeah, i liked the classic proof, and figured it out,
didnt really look at extended proof, i get confused when i count past three
as for your network problem, i cant really help you there. (I'm not very good at any sort of computer/networking stuff, but I know a tiny bit)
Am I right in understanding that you need to set up ICS between your desktop and laptop, for when you use your wireless connection, but I am unsure if this cancels out your settings for the laptops internet connection through the ethernet...
Maybe this helps, maybe it doesnt... sorry, i dont know much about this, but i want to learn
https://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/
(also click on the link that says 'Network Bridge')
Good luck!
yeah, i liked the classic proof, and figured it out,
didnt really look at extended proof, i get confused when i count past three
as for your network problem, i cant really help you there. (I'm not very good at any sort of computer/networking stuff, but I know a tiny bit)
Am I right in understanding that you need to set up ICS between your desktop and laptop, for when you use your wireless connection, but I am unsure if this cancels out your settings for the laptops internet connection through the ethernet...
Maybe this helps, maybe it doesnt... sorry, i dont know much about this, but i want to learn
https://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/
(also click on the link that says 'Network Bridge')
Good luck!
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Posted:
*cough*division [edited]*cough*
EDITED_BY: oli (1087249114)
*cough*division [edited]*cough*
EDITED_BY: oli (1087249114)
Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
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Posted:
or just go ahead and post it anyway - one of the two eh oli
have never seen anyone take that proof this far before - congratulations on your highly entertaining pointless geek-out
sorry i can't help with the wireless network question i'm afraid - mine is still down hence my work only access to hop
Written by: Mark1
ok, I know the fallacy, I also know its old, so don't post it and ruin it for the confusable folks...
or just go ahead and post it anyway - one of the two eh oli
have never seen anyone take that proof this far before - congratulations on your highly entertaining pointless geek-out
sorry i can't help with the wireless network question i'm afraid - mine is still down hence my work only access to hop
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Posted:
i always liked the unix version:
Let 6=1+5
Let 9=8+1
6x9 = 1+5x8+1
6x9=1+40+1
6x9=42
i always liked the unix version:
Let 6=1+5
Let 9=8+1
6x9 = 1+5x8+1
6x9=1+40+1
6x9=42
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
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Location: The Middle lands, United Kingdom
playing the days away
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Location: The Middle lands, United Kingdom
Posted:
surely to be correct it'd have to be
6x9 = (1+5)x(8+1) cuz otherwaise 1 + 5 = 6, then x 8 = 48, then + 1 = 49 to read it straight.
that version says 6x9 = 1 + (5x8) + 1 which is wrong
sorry, should have stopped counting at work
returns to dark corner with Calcy, my solar powered best friend
surely to be correct it'd have to be
6x9 = (1+5)x(8+1) cuz otherwaise 1 + 5 = 6, then x 8 = 48, then + 1 = 49 to read it straight.
that version says 6x9 = 1 + (5x8) + 1 which is wrong
sorry, should have stopped counting at work
returns to dark corner with Calcy, my solar powered best friend
Let's relight this forum 
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Posted:
*aimee walks in, takes one look at all the numbers and runs out screaming*
*aimee walks in, takes one look at all the numbers and runs out screaming*
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Posted:
yeah, thats the hole, but unix doesnt know that
, and reading it straight, using BODMAS, as all kids are taught (brackets off, divide, multiply, add, subtract), then it works
And how is a solar powered calculator going to work in a dark corner?
yeah, thats the hole, but unix doesnt know that
, and reading it straight, using BODMAS, as all kids are taught (brackets off, divide, multiply, add, subtract), then it worksAnd how is a solar powered calculator going to work in a dark corner?
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
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Posted:
it's special....like me
it's special....like me
Let's relight this forum
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stranger
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Location: england
Posted:
thank god for you people, you have proven that I AM NOT A GEEK!!!
And that I am, in fact, as sane as the next person (just so long as i'm in here).
bless you all
thank god for you people, you have proven that I AM NOT A GEEK!!!
And that I am, in fact, as sane as the next person (just so long as i'm in here).
bless you all
remember; they can't break you if you don't have a spine
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Posted:
remember, a geek is a nerd with a social life
and im not sane, so i think that means you arent either, given that im the next person
remember, a geek is a nerd with a social life
and im not sane, so i think that means you arent either, given that im the next person
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
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Location: bristol/ southern eastern devon, United Kingdom
not with cactus
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Location: bristol/ southern eastern devon, United Kingdom
Posted:
oopss.. there gose me not reading the first line again...
EDITED_BY: oli (1087249027)
Written by: colemanWritten by: Mark1
ok, I know the fallacy, I also know its old, so don't post it and ruin it for the confusable folks...
or just go ahead and post it anyway - one of the two eh oli
oopss.. there gose me not reading the first line again...
EDITED_BY: oli (1087249027)
Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
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Posted:
and you are neither a geek, nor a nerd, unless you have gone out in public wearing a t-shirt whose main feature is an untidy clump of html coding on the bottom front. or, you have a pillow and/or blanket with binary written on them, like these:
blanket
pillow
and you are neither a geek, nor a nerd, unless you have gone out in public wearing a t-shirt whose main feature is an untidy clump of html coding on the bottom front. or, you have a pillow and/or blanket with binary written on them, like these:
blanket
pillow
"beg beg grovel beg grovel"
"master"
--FSA
"There was an arse there, i couldn't help myself"
--Rougie
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Posted:
Girls are evil PROOF
First we state that girls require time and money.
Girls = Time x Money
And as we all know "time is money"
Time = Money
Therefore:
Girls = Money x Money = (money)²
And because "money is the root of all evil".
Money = *sqRt*Evil
Therefore:
Girls = (*sqRt*Evil)²
And we are forced to conclude that:
Girls = Evil
hehe
Girls are evil PROOF
First we state that girls require time and money.
Girls = Time x Money
And as we all know "time is money"
Time = Money
Therefore:
Girls = Money x Money = (money)²
And because "money is the root of all evil".
Money = *sqRt*Evil
Therefore:
Girls = (*sqRt*Evil)²
And we are forced to conclude that:
Girls = Evil
hehe
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Posted:
Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no
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before i met those lot i thought they'd be a bunch of dreadlocked hippies that smoked, set things on fire ,and drank a lot of tea but then when i met them....oh wait (PyroWill)
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Location: Edinburgh, UK
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Posted:
Going back to your network question, I don't know how to do it under windows, but in general terms, you need to make your PC with the WiFi card in act as a router.
At a guess, on your home network, all your machines are on a subnet, with addresses like
192.168.0.x
Your router has two addresses, an internal one, probably 192.168.0.1, and an external one, which will be a proper valid internet address. It knows that anything that's not going to 192.168.0.x has to be routed out on the external interface (hence router )
You need for your PC to have a similar setup - it will have one address on your local subnet, for it's normal ethernet connection, and another address for the WiFi card. You want to configure it so that it knows to route anything on the WiFi interface to the wired interface. From there, you should be able to have two separate connections setup on the laptop, one a wired one, and one a wireless one. The wireless one needs to have the Gateway address set to that of the WiFi card in the PC (unless you have set up the PC to be a DHCP server...)
Hope that helps a little, although it's more likely that you just need to press a "Share this connection" button on the setup for the wireless card. But that's the kind of thing that's going on behind the scenes.
Going back to your network question, I don't know how to do it under windows, but in general terms, you need to make your PC with the WiFi card in act as a router.
At a guess, on your home network, all your machines are on a subnet, with addresses like
192.168.0.x
Your router has two addresses, an internal one, probably 192.168.0.1, and an external one, which will be a proper valid internet address. It knows that anything that's not going to 192.168.0.x has to be routed out on the external interface (hence router
)You need for your PC to have a similar setup - it will have one address on your local subnet, for it's normal ethernet connection, and another address for the WiFi card. You want to configure it so that it knows to route anything on the WiFi interface to the wired interface. From there, you should be able to have two separate connections setup on the laptop, one a wired one, and one a wireless one. The wireless one needs to have the Gateway address set to that of the WiFi card in the PC (unless you have set up the PC to be a DHCP server...)
Hope that helps a little, although it's more likely that you just need to press a "Share this connection" button on the setup for the wireless card. But that's the kind of thing that's going on behind the scenes.
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resident bagpiper
342 posts
Location: Vermont, USA
342 posts
Location: Vermont, USA
Posted:
https://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/88q4/nonbook/proof.119.html
i've made teachers resort to these proofs many a time
https://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/88q4/nonbook/proof.119.html
i've made teachers resort to these proofs many a time
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A:The Great Highland Pipes burn longer.
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spiny norman
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Location: Cincinnati,damn it, USA
Posted:
you should be able to figure out the network, that is, as long as you have a towel with you>>>peace
you should be able to figure out the network, that is, as long as you have a towel with you>>>peace
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... ... ... OW ... ... ... That made my brain twitch
... ... ... OW ... ... ... That made my brain twitch
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