"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
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quote:Some very intersting points in your post, but I do believe that beacause we are in western society, we are raised as childrens into adults with the misconception that external circumstances make us happy. Thus, the subject of attachment comes into play. We are attached to the idea that outside circumstances, people, materialistic stuffs makes us happy or successful in life. Being in a depression, you can be so blinded by such dark emotions that you cannot find the true happiness within yourself, for you have been affected to believe that it is not within you. I beleive that true happiness does come from deep within ourselves, and we are the only one in control to change the depressive situation that we are in, but for example... what if someone you love dies? death affects us so much because we are raised to become attached to other human beings and we are raised to beleive that we are bodies (ego) and not souls. External circumstances naturally effect us because thats how we, as human beings have been conditioned. Thats why I think depression can be such an expansive thing to conquer by ourselves... but in the end, from my experience, I agree that it is the only way.
Originally posted by onewheeldave:
True happiness is independant from external circumstances.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a trick, this is a stunt. The difference between a stunt and a trick is that a trick is something that tricks or fools the audience, a stunt is something that only an idiot would do -Ivan, Ash Circle, 10/04/03
quote:I have something to say about this and I dont know if I will upset some people but quite frankly I dont really care. I trust the people on this board and I am proud of the obsticles that I have overcome.
Avoid Medication At All Costs.
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.
she who sees from up high smiles
Patrick badger king: *they better hope there's never a jihad on stupidity*
quote:A very insighful post. As a child, I learnt to expect the worst and then hopefully I would be pleasantly surprised sometimes, which I think greatly factored in my depression as I got older. There came a point in my life when things seemed better most of the time rather than bad and I realised that I should not take the bad things in life so personally and started concentrating more on what was good. One of my favourite quotes as a teenager was 'Ni hionduil and sonas gan an donas a bheith ma orlai trid' (There is no happiness without an inch of sorrow through it), which changed to 'our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall' - shows quite a different mindframe don't you think?
for a certain type of person, it is of more use to focus on the aspects of depression that are caused by the self, albeit unconsciously; because then responsibility can be taken to do what is necessary to change the habits that are maintaining the depression.
Come faeries, take me out of this dull world, for I would ride with you upon the wind and dance upon the mountains like a flame.
- W B Yeats
-v-
Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a trick, this is a stunt. The difference between a stunt and a trick is that a trick is something that tricks or fools the audience, a stunt is something that only an idiot would do -Ivan, Ash Circle, 10/04/03
TAJ "boat mummy." VALURA "yes sweetie you went on a boat, was daddy there with you?" TAJ "no, but monkey on boat" VALURA "well then sweetie, Daddy WAS there with you"
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned
and the last fish has been caught
will we realise that we
cannot eat money.
Cree Indian, 1909
Come faeries, take me out of this dull world, for I would ride with you upon the wind and dance upon the mountains like a flame.
- W B Yeats
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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Wiederstand ist Zwecklos!
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
Never doubt that a small group of crusties, activists, and politicos can change the world... in fact, it's the only thing that ever does ;-)
Come faeries, take me out of this dull world, for I would ride with you upon the wind and dance upon the mountains like a flame.
- W B Yeats
quote:That's an interesting point. For those of us who overcame their depression by realizing the ways in which our own minds fueled it, by basically accepting that we were responsible for the fact that we were depressed, the question of what to say to a depressed person is a difficult one.
Originally posted by Rouge Dragon:
sometimes i think that people without depression and people who have overcome it are to flippent with their help. i would have thought that the people who have overcome it would be more understanding. however my experiences is that they arent. basically, if its so easy to overcome, why didnt they overcome it so easily? "i didnt realise it at the time" is the usual answer. however are they sure about that? they, too, prolly had people telling them it was easy to overcome yet didnt believe them. i think its just so easy for people to effectively say "get over it" however its easier said than done and i personally find it really impersonal advice.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
quote:You've quoted me very selectivly Frostypaw, I did make it quite clear that there may be diffrent types of depression.
Originally posted by frostypaw:
Your personal depression may well have been caused and continued by you - but please... don't presume that's how it is for everyone else. Telling people it's their own damn fault is kinda cruel.
Some of the message on this thread could be horrendously harmful to someone suffering from depression.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!