....so does it come with a hat?
....so does it come with a hat?
"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
....so does it come with a hat?
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
quote:No one is saying when two women are competing to a role with similar credentials that one is sleeping with the boss to get the job. What they are saying is women do not handle this well and they think they did not get the part because the other woman did various things possibly including sleeping with the boss.
Originally posted by Pele:
I am going to soooooo disagree here! As a woman in a VERY competitive field, I compete against men and women for stage time. If I don't get a part it is because someone was better than me and I need to polish up, not because s/he offered favors to a director.
quote:Uh have you any idea what's going on in schools? I don't know about there but in canada and america the girls are fighting more then the guys. Not just pissy little disputes carried out through gossip and name calling and exclusion from cliques. Loud obnoxious confrontations. These stupid fights happen WAY more then guys have disputes. Sure guys use violence but they don't actually have as many fights and the figure for violence in schools is starting to balance out for women/men.
Originally posted by Pele:
Look at the rates of violence in high schools? It is predominately male to male. Men are just as apt to be judgemental and try to hold one another back as they are to support one another. It is not so seperate as all that.
quote:Astar, I am going to assume you are talking about a specific case here, and if it is exactly as you represent it, then in all likelihood the only people who respect Ms. X are women who hold the same beliefs. She would probably even be roundly condemned by most women who call themselves feminist.
Ms. X of X company makes open comments in public about how men are stupid violent pigs with no more motivation for their actions then the basic need to reproduce.
Mr. Y of Y company makes similar comments about how women are sluts that are only good for sex and don't have anymore intelligence then a door post.
Mr. Y has destroyed his credibility and reputation and Ms. X is seen as a strong and modern women who is at the forefront of the feminist movement.
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
quote:That is what I said Aster. I don't think that way. I know many women who do not react this way, and who handle this form of rejection as a means to motivate themselves more. And I have seen men react just as badly as what you are saying.
Originally posted by Astar:
No one is saying when two women are competing to a role with similar credentials that one is sleeping with the boss to get the job. What they are saying is women do not handle this well and they think they did not get the part because the other woman did various things possibly including sleeping with the boss.
quote:Aster, I have taught College Short Story Literature, High School English and Elementary Special Ed.. I am well aware of what goes on in school's, and statistically, it is predominately male violence, even at the elementary level.
Uh have you any idea what's going on in schools? I don't know about there but in canada and america the girls are fighting more then the guys. Not just pissy little disputes carried out through gossip and name calling and exclusion from cliques. Loud obnoxious confrontations. These stupid fights happen WAY more then guys have disputes. Sure guys use violence but they don't actually have as many fights and the figure for violence in schools is starting to balance out for women/men.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
....so does it come with a hat?
quote:Thats one of the best things I have heard in the feminist debate for years.....(Not that I am an expert )
Originally posted by Rozi:
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To return to the topic, you have to remember that women are a bunch of humans. We have the equal-opportunity right to be as stupid as men, as cruel as men, as competitive as men, etc, etc.
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I like Fire.. :)
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
quote:I think you need to check again because the boys have come roaring back not by talking smack but by being a unit and supportive and just getting it done.They started out cocky but after getting their @$$es handed to them the first two times they have made quite the comeback.Meanwhile the girls team is coming apart due to petty infighting.Though at this point it is anyone's game.
Originally posted by Pele:
I have also watched the Battle of the Sexes on MTV and again, I cheer for the girls. Sure, there are guys I like and girls I don't but on the whole, it is fun to watch the boys eat crow. Maybe if they didn't talk so much smack I would feel differently, but it seems anytime women are pitted against men in competition, the men talk alot that they can not seem to deliver on. *shrug*
All that ego stuff I suppose!
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, and screaming "WOO-HOO What a ride!"
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
....so does it come with a hat?
Trippie Hippie- Monty Dons secret love child
Fly like a mouse, run like a pillow, be the small book case.
"Last night i met some pixies and we danced around a stone".
Because dressing up is fun.