the best smiles are the ones you lead to
kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more
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'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
Written by: stout
He really does exist, after all can millions of believers all be wrong?
There's too many home fires burning and not enough trees
'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
Written by: Gremlin_Lou
What is hezbollah? A milita of the Islamic revolutionary guard. What is it they want? The Islamisation of the Middle East and the destruction of Israel.
The people not under the spell of ignorance have realized this but our media and our leaders who feed their feeble arguments have not. One wonders what it will take for them to wake up. The sooner the better.
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To my mind, a loving and caring God would intervene, maybe by giving us the technology to erect Sagetree's force field, or ensuring that Hizbullas and Israel's ordinance fails to fire. He's done neither, so what other conclusions can I draw than this conflict is a manifistation of God's will.
Chief adviser to the Pharaoh, in one very snazzy mutli-coloured coat
'Time goes by so slowly for those who wait...' - Whatever Happend To Baby Madonna?
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Sigh! We just keep going around in circles don't we? Your opinions don't change the fact that Hezbollah only exists because Israel occupied Lebanon, and Hamas only exists because Israel has been oppressing the Palestinians for decades.
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Large numbers of the Arab population fled the newly-created Jewish State during the Palestinian exodus, which is referred to by many Palestinian groups and individuals as the Nakba (Arabic: النكبة), meaning "disaster" or "cataclysm". Many historians suggest that the Palestinians fled due to orders from Arab generals. Many Palestinians left under the belief that the Arab armies would prevail and they would return.[8] Moreover, Israel offered — in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel — to the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel the full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions, but many refused.
kyrian: I've felt your finger connect with me many times
lou kitten: sneaky little meatball..
ezz: please corrupt me more
Written by: Yell fire!
Sigh! We just keep going around in circles don't we? Your opinions don't change the fact that Hezbollah only exists because Israel occupied Lebanon, and Hamas only exists because Israel has been oppressing the Palestinians for decades. You call them Nazis, but many, many people call Israelis Nazis. Corner anyone, and chances are that they will fight back, I don't understand why you are complaining.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
Written by: Patriarch917
Let's brighten up the discussion by saying positive things about being Jewish, then.
Chief adviser to the Pharaoh, in one very snazzy mutli-coloured coat
'Time goes by so slowly for those who wait...' - Whatever Happend To Baby Madonna?
'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
Written by: Gremlin Lou
I'm sorry, but unless you've lived in the middle-east or grown up with the conflict affecting your friends and family then you have no right to make any judgements on Israel.
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Nietzsche
Written by: Gremlin_Lou
The point is, a lot of the Arab world DOES hate Jews. Its a well known fact.
'If your deeds shouldn't be known, perhaps they shouldn't be done, if your words shouldn't be shared, perhaps they shouldn't be spoken. Act with attention, for all your acts have consequences" (Rabbi Judah HaNassi)
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See, by that statement, I believe you're showing yourself to be an irrational, rascist f***Wit.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
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Whilst my comments may have been strongly worded (mass murder is one of the few things which get my goat), I stand by them.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Written by: Doc LightningWritten by: jeff(fake)
Whilst my comments may have been strongly worded (mass murder is one of the few things which get my goat), I stand by them.
You are one of those who failed to offer Israel an alternative course of action.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: jeff(fake)
[ould have simply engaged in prisoner exchange as Hezbolla proposed rather than killing all those people and provoking the rocket attacks. But that would have been a loss of face, which is obviously much worse than killing people.
I'm sorry, I just don't see the logic.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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I think Doc Lightning alluded to an "important" question a few pages back.
I'll paraphrase it, and ask "Why do the Jews keep getting caught in holocausts?"
Now it may seem unfair to ask this question given the Nazi holocaust, but when history keeps repeating itself, there may be another explanation. I know some of the reasons I learn at school. But I'd like to know more - “Who are the Jew being that gets everybody offside with them? And what could they do, or who would they have to be to bring peace back to the world?"
And don't go saying it's not our fault, and blaming others. Because clearly it is Israel’s fault. Saying things like it was our bombs that killed civilians, we fired them, but its not our fault because Hezbollah made us kill civilians, is childish.
Yeah! And what do people think God thinks of this killing ?
Time for another flood springs to mind.
Written by: Patriarch917
OWD seems to have suggested that the Jewish response to those who are trying to drive them out of Israel through violent means should be to give in and leave.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: Doc LightningWritten by: jeff(fake)
[ould have simply engaged in prisoner exchange as Hezbolla proposed rather than killing all those people and provoking the rocket attacks. But that would have been a loss of face, which is obviously much worse than killing people.
I'm sorry, I just don't see the logic.
Go back for a second. A failure to exchange prisoners (known terrorists who had masterminded killinigs) was provocation? And so it's Israel's fault?
Wow, I'm glad you weren't my first grade teacher. If Jonny had come and punched me in the nose out of nowhere you might have argued that it was my fault for beating him in a game of tetherball.
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
Written by: jeff(fake)
[Ask yourself this: If Lebanon were somehow able to defend themselves, say by shooting down Israeli planes before they dropped their bombs on Lebanese towns, would you endorse their right to do so as an act of defence?
According to Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle of Quantum Dynamics, we may already be making love right now...
"God *was* my co-pilot, but then we crashed, and I had to eat him..."
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That's an incredibly niave view, Doc. Roughly a thousand people have died and you compare it school yard justice? I think you have fallen into the trap of the False Dichotemy, that the only options are the current one, and letting the terrorists win. There are better ways. You asked me for one alternative, and I gave you two. They may not be the best alternatives, but they were a damn sight better than the mess we are in now.
I think I was able to demonstrate why they wouldn't. Actually, I only recall you mentioning prisoner exchange, which basically sends a message that Israel is willing to negotiate with terrorists. Not a good policy. "If you bomb us we'll give you your prisoners back." Nope...I don't think that's a very good alternative. Especially because Hezbollah would just bomb anyway once they got their prisoners back.
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Ask yourself this: If Lebanon were somehow able to defend themselves, say by shooting down Israeli planes before they dropped their bombs on Lebanese towns, would you endorse their right to do so as an act of defence? What about if they were able to take preventative action against Isreal and destroy it's military capabilities, along with a fair amount of Collateral damage? I don't think that would be right, but if your reasoning is applied fairly, that would be the logical conclusion.
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Also, am I to believe that you think these action were proportional, humanitarian, and in good faith, or do you think (as surely you must as an intelligent man, with apologies if you have mentioned it earlier) that they were at least disporporionate and callous?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Written by: Stone
You have to remove Israel to remove the terrorists. YOU are not accepting any responsibility in the cause of this war.
Well, shall we go?
Yes, let's go.
[They do not move.]
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