sureauenthusiast
224 posts
Location: Oz girl in Eng-land


Posted:
Hey folks... hoping you're all kinds of splendid.

I've recently started contact staffing, and as is to be expected I have some bruising. My question is, for those of you who have experienced this, did it take awhile for your muscles to get used to it, and did the bruising subsequently grow less sever over time? I know when I first started firetwirling years ago, the muscles and tendons running down from the fingers into the wrist were obviously being used in a new way. I had my wrist bandaged for a week.

I have bruising from belting myself behind the ear and such; but I also have bruising from gripping the staff with the crook of my arm. For example (and sorry, but I am unfamiliar with the terms) I pass the staff horizontally from right elbow to left, grip it with the left and push it under the armpit in a vertical wrap, send it horizontally round the back of the neck, and around the throat, and roll it down the left arm and flick off the back of the hand. The bruising is mostly left elbow, specially in the crook of my arm where I've gripped it. Do I just need to toughen up? ubbrollsmile
thankx

"Be the Bunny"


Fear-TineSILVER Member
enthusiast
227 posts
Location: dublin Ireland


Posted:
Suck it up. I bruise very easily man and Im covered in them. i have been doing contact staff for 3 months and until you get it right your going to bruise. Right now I have a big bruise on my left arm from snes to halo moves.

i dont think its that you toughen up as much as you actually get a nice part for the staff to move over and whe you start to clean it up is rolls over your body as opposed to bouncing.

Grow old but never grow up


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
so slowly and softly and u wont bruise, find the rhythem of the movement and move with the stick rather than forcing it to go where u want it to

be its guide and it wont beat u up to bad smile

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


sureauenthusiast
224 posts
Location: Oz girl in Eng-land


Posted:
Cheers. Heck I'm not overly worried about it. I was on steroid treatment for ages, and just wondered if I was bruising more easily than the average person.

"Be the Bunny"


ado-pGOLD Member
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland


Posted:
your all weak pansies

i've never, ever had a bruise from staffing.

its because im hard as

*does hard man pose*

Love is the law.


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
rolleyes

you must become at one with the staff so that u flow with it and the cosmic tides of the universe

meditate

ubbtickled

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


Fear-TineSILVER Member
enthusiast
227 posts
Location: dublin Ireland


Posted:
Your not hard.your just dumber than the average joe so your body doesnt know that its been damaged hug

Yeah just keep practising real slow and of course if you get it slow its a lot nicer than speed

Grow old but never grow up


LavatwilightGOLD Member
old hand
834 posts
Location: Wellington somerset, UK


Posted:
kinda as ben says, but not such a hippish way of doing it :P
if it hurts its not a natrual movement, so find the space for the staff to fall into rather than just puttin the staff where you want it.

Drawings by chalk minds, strech between the stars

Kyle Mclean-
Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


DentrassiGOLD Member
ZORT!
3,045 posts
Location: Brisbane, Australia


Posted:
*insert psuedo-asian-martial-arts-guru-master-voice-here*

"You must be at One with the Staff, my Son."

"Here kitty kitty...." - Schroedinger.


Kyle McLeanBRONZE Member
Living it up
363 posts
Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia


Posted:
Umm Dentrassi, I don't think she's your son (not sure, don't quote me, just a wild guess:))
Sureau, nice to see someone in this part of the world that likes rubing themselves all over their staff...
IMHO their are two main popular methods to inflicting self harm with a contact stick(s):
A) Using one body part to attack another with the stick (eg a badly botched head catch)
B) Willfully moving your body in a fashion that brings about lasting pain and discomfort (eg jumping on your head)

Going slow will reduce your chances at sucsessfully using tecnique A, whilst paying attetion to what feels natural in terms of body movment will make it much more challenging to use approach B and bend things the wrong way. Becoming more strechy will also hinder for this and may make things feel natural that did not before. ubbangel

Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


UCOFSILVER Member
15,417 posts
Location: South Wales


Posted:
*insert pseudo-Yorkshire-coal-miner-voice-here*

"Aye."

T&BBRONZE Member
Me
607 posts
Location: London/Bristol, United Kingdom


Posted:
abit of practial advice don't kick the staff into your face it might seem like a good idea but trust me it's not

Maybe I should change this too something abit nicer, humm no I still think your all Ccensoredt


mo-sephenthusiast
523 posts
Location: Edinburgh, UK


Posted:
Learning to soften is good too - the staff can only put as much pressure on you as you let it.

If you don't grip the staff hard with your elbow, it can't bruise it.

If your hand is relaxed when the staff smacks it, it'll hurt less.

biggrin

monkeys ate my brain


ado-pGOLD Member
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland


Posted:
i've got internal bruising on both my hands from contact catching.

ouchy ouchy

Love is the law.


mo-sephenthusiast
523 posts
Location: Edinburgh, UK


Posted:
Written by: ado-p


your all weak pansies

i've never, ever had a bruise from staffing.

its because im hard as

*does hard man pose*




Written by: ado-p

i've got internal bruising on both my hands from contact catching.




ubblol ubblol ubblol

Your iron fist technique is weak. In hardness you will find only weakness...

And now, I will kill you so hard your babysitter will die!

monkeys ate my brain


ado-pGOLD Member
Pirate Ninja
3,882 posts
Location: Galway/Ireland


Posted:
My soul is a river of calm.

Sweeping away rocks and mountains.

My limbs are that of a tree, flexible and strong

My body is limber and fast.

I am ready

biggrin

Love is the law.


Kyle McLeanBRONZE Member
Living it up
363 posts
Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia


Posted:
ubblol
Quite true about the softening though...

Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


mcpPLATINUM Member
Flying Water Muppet
5,276 posts
Location: Edin-borrow., United Kingdom


Posted:
My talk is that of a zen monk on hash.

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.


Kyle McLeanBRONZE Member
Living it up
363 posts
Location: Brisbane/Berlin, Australia


Posted:
...My Hash is that of a zen monk, talking

Contact without dance is like sex without wiggling.
A) it does feel as good
B) it does not look as good on film


ben-ja-menGOLD Member
just lost .... evil init
2,474 posts
Location: Adelaide, Australia


Posted:
Written by: mo-seph


Your iron fist technique is weak. In hardness you will find only weakness...

And now, I will kill you so hard your babysitter will die!




ubblol thats the funniest thing ive read all day

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourself, who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous and talented? Who are you NOT to be?


sureauenthusiast
224 posts
Location: Oz girl in Eng-land


Posted:
Written by: ben-ja-men


Written by: mo-seph


Your iron fist technique is weak. In hardness you will find only weakness...

And now, I will kill you so hard your babysitter will die!




ubblol thats the funniest thing ive read all day




agreed ubblol ....well, second funniest ubbrollsmile

The bruising is definitely less since the movements have become cleaner, smoother, and more relaxed. Picked up another couple of moves last night, and so far no bruising or belting. I started a circus course tonight, so muscles are feeling interesting anyway... ubbloco

Dimitri if you happen to read this thread, blessings and safe travel prayers. Have a ball in Spain. Thanks for the kick-off to contact-juggling last night, and hope to see you back in Brizzy!
hug

~ Jen weavesmiley

"Be the Bunny"


duballstarSILVER Member
slack rating - 9.5
2,216 posts
Location: Suburbiton, Yoo-Kay, United Kingdom


Posted:
my stick/s have been attacking me loads lately... messed up me nose at pip and got a sore shoulder from contact stuff speeding up an twacking it by accident. maybe it's cos i don't play with em enough they're gettin jealous of all my other toys... wink

It is our fantasies that make us real. Without our fantasies we're just a blank monkey' - Terry Pratchett


NateBRONZE Member
Groovy ga watashi no namae desu!
1,530 posts
Location: Oxford, Oxfordshire, England


Posted:
you'll get used to the normal bruising in the normal places and it should slowly get less..........the only places i get bruises now is on my face from messing up with doubles tricks........i've had a black eye recently in fact.

*wonders off to find sticks and bruise face more*

I like Languages.

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