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flash fireBRONZE Member
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Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia


Posted:
This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



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DarkFyreBRONZE Member
HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
1,965 posts
Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand


Posted:
I just got a butterfly weave thingy going

QUESTION - is that an anti spin weave or what? I'm not sure.

There arn't too many spinners in palmy and those that are here are mostly beginners then to top it all off the good spinners have little or no knowlage of poi language or terminology.

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Sambo_FluxGOLD Member
Introverted
833 posts
Location: Norf London, United Kingdom


Posted:
In a butterfly weave, one hand is antispun, the other is normal spin.

Say you're doing the hand motions for a forwards weave, the hand that's spinning backwards is the antispun one.

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DarkFyreBRONZE Member
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Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand


Posted:
One hand is doing a reverse weave and the other a foward weave with needle threading (both under arm and over arm depending on which side of the body u r on) to make a 5bt move. This to my understanding is a butterfly weave and while you say one hand is antispun (this is the concept that i'm having issues with) i consider the trick in terms of foward and reverse weaves simultainiously. Is it or isn't it an antispun weave and if it isn't point me to a vid of an antispun weave so i can learn it in visual terms as opposed to text.

Cheers biggrin

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Sambo_FluxGOLD Member
Introverted
833 posts
Location: Norf London, United Kingdom


Posted:
Sounds to me like we're talking about slightly different things by the term butterfly weave. My understanding of the term is essentially a 3bt weave, with one of the poi spinning backwards instead of forwards.Your hands will be doing the exact hand motions for a forwards weave. Best example I can think of is Sketch's gif in the butterfly weave thread, [Old link].

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Soul is the Ocean

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DarkFyreBRONZE Member
HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
1,965 posts
Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand


Posted:
cheers thats almost the same move but in 3bt instead of 5bt, both of which i can do however i figured out the 5bt before i thought of doing the 3bt and my 5 bt is a lot cleaner. Also in 5bt it changes from foward to reverse weave depending on body side however that may be the doing of the needle thread as oposed to wraping my wrists around each other as in a traditional 5bt weave.

I'm still not all that clear on the matter of antispins however

Many thanks anyhow

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Sambo_FluxGOLD Member
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833 posts
Location: Norf London, United Kingdom


Posted:
Antispin is where your hand moves in a circle in the opposite way to the way the poi is spinning. If you spin the poi forwards, and move your arm in a big circle backwards, you're doing antispin.



In a butterfly weave, the circle your hand makes is a lot smaller, but because your hands are rotating forwards (ie the forwards weave motion) the poi that's spinning backwards is therefore antispun. The poi that's spinning forwards is spinning normally cause it's going in the same direction as your hands. smile



Edit: dizzphoenix just re-read your original post... An antispin weave is where you do the hand motions for a forwards weave, but your poi are both spinning backwards, or vice versa. It's very pretty (when done well) but doesn't look much like a normal weave. smile
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Emotions become the Waves
Soul is the Ocean

If a quizz is quizzical, what is a test?


MireneyeSILVER Member
enthusiast
276 posts
Location: Sweden


Posted:
I don't know if this qualiefies as a move, but today, i heard a song in my list of music, that somehow, opened up a pretty much whole new "flow" for me.

And it's so fun! ubblol

I'm so much more happy spinning now. I've seen the light!

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Borysnewbie
3 posts
Location: warsaw


Posted:
isolation 360 or something like that

YorkshireSILVER Member
newbie
33 posts
Location: Springfield, MO in the county of Greene!!!, USA


Posted:
Yea yea! Just recently I learned to do split time straight jackets and butterfly straight jackets!!! Also, my dancing transitions are flowing together alot better looking! I wish I had a way of posting my poi routines up on the site for yall to see!! But for sure, there is always later!!!

DarkFyreBRONZE Member
HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
1,965 posts
Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand


Posted:
so long as we're talking more about flow than moves i was working on a funny little routine for busking that goes to the tune of "do your balls hang low".



butterfly > reverse thread the needle > reverse butterfloop > angel wings
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sxsk17BRONZE Member
stranger
17 posts
Location: USA


Posted:
this morning I suddenly realized how to put 1.5's behind by back and behind my head. sorta... still needs lots of smoothing out. I also stumbled upon a type of butterfly 1.5

MireneyeSILVER Member
enthusiast
276 posts
Location: Sweden


Posted:
Nailed some basic atomics. I don't know why it took me so long to understand the concept.. Have to blame it on the weird words used with atomics.. haha..

Man, now that i understand the basics, the real experimentation can begin =)

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fNiGOLD Member
master of disaster
3,354 posts
Location: New York, USA


Posted:
Some contact thingoes now that I finally got around to making counterweighted poi

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animatEdBRONZE Member
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3,540 posts
Location: Bristol UK


Posted:
Within 14 seconds of Uber teaching, I can now do one-and-two-halves.



Thanks Rob!!



And reverse one-and-two-halves Thanks to THE fluff.



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FireTomStargazer
6,650 posts

Posted:
I'm doing this for a while and can't believe this to be new a all:

Buzzsaw - one hand remains in position, the other hand leaves, does a flower pattern (anti- or spin) and returns into the buzzsaw

Variation: before one hand comes back into the buzzsaw, the other hand starts ot to flower.

If done to the rythm of the music, it gives a very sweet view...

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Sambo_FluxGOLD Member
Introverted
833 posts
Location: Norf London, United Kingdom


Posted:
Yeah, the buzzsaw flower takeouts are lush! I've been playing with isolating them as well, looks really trippy ir one hand is doing continuous antispin flowers, and the other stays in place....

Got *wracks brains for closest terms* butterfly fountain with hugged insert. Like a forward butterfly weave to a backwards butterfly weave, but with a beat of opposite direction huggy in the middle... lush...

3bt weave inversion (the barrel roll bit) pulled out into a hyperloop too.

My Mind is a Ship
Emotions become the Waves
Soul is the Ocean

If a quizz is quizzical, what is a test?


FireTomStargazer
6,650 posts

Posted:
"buzzsaw flower takeout" ubbidea "butterfly fountain with hugged insert"

ubblol

I'm doing some kind of "forward (opposing) dual chain buzzsaw - butterfly - reverse (opposing) dual chain buzzsaw" - combo... is that alike?

But antispin flower outtakes are trippy indeed...

peace

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adrenalinenewbie
18 posts
Location: Guatemala


Posted:
i just got the reverse thread the needle!! wooo now im trying split time! i realice theres no imposible moves only few practice... does anybody knows how to start the one side butterfly?? smile:)

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OctaviaKeatonBRONZE Member
newbie
10 posts
Location: USA


Posted:
well Im not sure what all these complicated moves are...but seeing as I just started Id like to say that I just learned the weave yaaay!..and the corkscrew!...and the backwards weave sort of! :P

Yeah I have the AoP video lol

ElentariSILVER Member
newbie
8 posts
Location: Maine & Vermont, USA


Posted:
Hmm, well Im just at the point where Im starting to experiment with transitions and whatnot, which is fun. I just figured out how to go from a regular 3bt to a BTB 3bt! And also into a buzzsaw from a weave... easy enough but still a thrill!

And I dont know what it is but Im sure it has some name, I just "made up" a sort of weave isolation hybrid. I cant wait to be able to do isolations for more than 2 seconds, theyre so fun and I love how they look!

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MireneyeSILVER Member
enthusiast
276 posts
Location: Sweden


Posted:
cool ubblove

I just discovered some type of Butterfly Fountain, which I'm SURE people have played with before, I just havn't seen them in many videos I guess. eek

spinningstarletSILVER Member
enthusiast
271 posts
Location: Bradford *rolls eyes*, United Kingdom


Posted:
TTN!!! I FINALLY GOT THREAD THE NEEDELE!!!!



yay!



I finally got chase the sun too, (was having some issues with my left poi over my head)



also now i'm trying to learn the wiggle and ttn with the glow poi as well as the socks!
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LazyAngelGOLD Member
Carpal \'Tunnel
2,895 posts
Location: Cambridge UK


Posted:
throws: Been trying to sort out that pesky left hand!



simultaneous double throws from plain reverse spinning



a few catches of simultaneous doubles throws from butterfly



alternating left right throws from ttn



alternating left right btb throws (catch in front) from low wave



throws and catches from reverse giant windmill (thanks to ros and oli for the idea on that one)



and btb catches with my right hand



also i managed to get my btb butterfly working for more than 3 seconds in same time (somehow split time works easier for me)



Pretty happy with today!! biggrin

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AuroraJonesnewbie
16 posts
Location: San Diego, California


Posted:
So I finally got my reverse weave, took me a few days. smile Now what should I be working on? I can do a butterfly, in both directions, and a high wave, but when I try to do it once behind my head they twist.
Any advice on that?
What can I apply my cool new weave and reverse weave to? What can I try to lead into with it?

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Sambo_FluxGOLD Member
Introverted
833 posts
Location: Norf London, United Kingdom


Posted:
Turn to turn from a forwards weave into a backwards one, and back a gain, both directions. Then learn Fountains. smile

My Mind is a Ship
Emotions become the Waves
Soul is the Ocean

If a quizz is quizzical, what is a test?


DarkFyreBRONZE Member
HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
1,965 posts
Location: Palmerston North, New Zealand


Posted:
very produtive week for me I learnt antispin flowers/weave/several other varionts therof including some atomic structure stuff but that just happened by accident (good accident however).

Hyperloops on my bad side, I had the hyperloop down going left to right but i couldn't for the life of me get them to go right to left until today. Airwraps go figure i learnt to do hyperloops before i could airwrap.

Oh I also figured out some buzzsaw stuf, I have no idea why it took me so long to figure coz it ain't all that difficult.

now I'm going to go back to spinning inside and trying to avoid hitting the light bulb since i killed the entire fitting the other day but I have since repared it.

May my balls of fire set your balls on fire devil


Obi_Wan_LynobiBRONZE Member
newbie
9 posts
Location: Glasgow, Scotland (UK)


Posted:
I too have had a productive week, finally got the 5 beat weave, and turning from forward into reverse 3 beat and back again. Result!

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RicheeBRONZE Member
HOP librarian
1,841 posts
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic


Posted:
Weave Olos, without complete turn yet.

lightning,

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DrudwynForget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
632 posts
Location: Southampton Uni


Posted:
I've been tidying up my antispin weave, practising some clubspinning grooviness, and just making my stuff look good.

Offset 3 petal antispun flowers to, which is fun, plus still working on antispin reels.

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darkness-beforeGOLD Member
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197 posts
Location: The sea, United Kingdom


Posted:
Yay joy an happiness! Is it sad that I'm so mega excited about being able to do 3 beat weave? Taken me a damn week but now i can do it forward and reverse!
Many impacts in my dosy skull and my pods. However finally got it down.
Joy of poi! weavesmiley

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